/tg/Station 13

RedBaronFlyer

The fact that Wawa doesn't over dedicate itself to Z-level stuff is part of why it's my favorite multi-z level map. That and instead of having a nice station at the highest level and ghetto maints and less important rooms below it instead takes the opposite approach which makes more sense to me imo ...

RedBaronFlyer

just don't let the nukie ship get hijacked when you're a nukie 5head

I've always thought that a half decent way to try and prevent too much fuckery would be to have something on the nukies themselves that they can't throw away* that is required to activate the ship computer. That way you have to ...

RedBaronFlyer

Moth Nyan/moffifuwa

I really liked their art and they usually ran some pretty creative building gimmicks (like a Moffroach petting zoo or a Disco Hall (that somehow would always be interrupted/destroyed via dynamic being dynamic before being completed)). I think one of the things that makes me the ...

RedBaronFlyer

I wish you could be able to put a trash bag into the janitor belt unless it has anything in said bag. Granted I use the janitor cart a bunch so i rarely run into the issue of not having somewhere to put the trash bag.

RedBaronFlyer

Like the one round I've played of it so far! I could be entirely misremembering but from the looks it seemed like that center table in the middle is supposed to be loaded with food and lowered to the bar area below via an elevator, but I haven't seen that done yet. Granted, that shift didn't had a ...

RedBaronFlyer

Haven't played for a few days but how is the whole thing going? Is it still resulting in players picking a job and then not doing it?

RedBaronFlyer

My ckey is Bisar, you can check on Centcom! The cocaine smoke was indeed my bad; I failed at splicing multiver into the gene like I had meant to.

https://i.imgur.com/OTXu1ax.png

I give you props for not downplaying it at any point at least.

Anyways, coming back to this thread, I did like ...

RedBaronFlyer

Metek wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:25 pm Monke permabanned me for highly dubious reasons so I wouldn't know but my assumptions are negative.

Why'd they permaban you?

RedBaronFlyer

I tried it, but I feel safe in saying that a solid 30% of the player base sucks, and it drags down the experience (same with regular monkestation funnily enough). I also had a horrible first beggar round where I fell from the starting area I spawned in that I didn't know how to climb down from ...

RedBaronFlyer

I'm all for more janitor slots as a janitor main. I do wish janitor carts weren't such a pain to come by though, I love them. I guess the bright side is most people run soap while I tend to use the janitor cart with it fully decked out with a broom, mop, light replacer, spray bottle*, while my belt ...

RedBaronFlyer

Yeah the more I think about it the more I dislike the alt names. Otherwise the compromise seems fine, I just use the PDA messenger search too much. You don’t notice how nice it is to type in captain and find them until you play on monke where it’s a total crapshoot

This is why I never want ...

RedBaronFlyer

chat is this bait?

RedBaronFlyer

TG is a good example of the whole ship of Theseus paradox. I imagine the reason why it still keeps the name is because the name is iconic. I they could change the name to whatever, but there’s not really a pressing reason to do so. The server didn’t schism like Skyrat to Novastation where it is a ...

RedBaronFlyer

Just please don’t ban shouting URA/URAH/ORA!

I have rarely felt brotherhood in SS13 like when people were shouting that while storming the last holdout on the station at the brig with mosins during a rev round.

RedBaronFlyer

I always saw the "ligger makes you valid" rule as a weird middleground because administration wanted it banned but MSO wanted it to stay. (I could be wrong but I'm like 95% sure this is why ligger is still allowed)

On one hand I agree that security should 100% enforce laws but... at the same time ...

RedBaronFlyer

yeah in my years of manuel play I've literally never seen this happen so I imagine it's rather rare. If it was more easily abusable then perhaps it'd be a bigger issue but it feels like it requires so many steps to go right to lead to ling murderboning or whatever.

sidenote but it's infinitely ...

RedBaronFlyer

the sword of Damocles but the sword is a ban and the hair holding the sword back is not revealing you use chat highlights in 2d horizontal spessman simulator

RedBaronFlyer

It's a fair issue to bring up. I think the only real solution is to try and avoid setting up by arrivals. Of course you can run into the issue where the starter of the cult or the cult base builder set up there and you have to just go with that. There was a round a few days back on Deltastation that ...

RedBaronFlyer

Piper Faust/GeneralThraxx. I see them pop up every now and then on discord but I haven't seen them ingame for around a year or so at this point. Could just be a timezone thing but I swear I'd usually see them in the evening EST when peak pop would happen.

The sad thing is that I know there's people ...

RedBaronFlyer

Ehhhh… I dunno seems like a non-issue. I don’t use it that way but I guess hypothetically it could leave you at an advantage. I just constantly look over at the chat window every few seconds so I don’t think it’d notice a difference.

I regret to inform you that i can do this already with my eyes ...

RedBaronFlyer

just don’t get your ship taken over lmao

/s

I don’t actually know how common this is because I’m usually on body retrieval (or hiding) during nukies but a rule banning it would feel arbitrary to me. Make the shuttle hard to approach in game or some sort of item required to do stuff, not a rule ...

RedBaronFlyer

I thought botanists growing dangerous stuff was like roboticists making combat mechs, so they are allowed to do it, but security is allowed to seize it with justification. I think bombs in sci are in a weird spot when it comes to a comparison in job weaponry because they are tied to research, with ...

RedBaronFlyer

This reminds me when an admin on manuel did the fog joke but fucked up something when it came to removing the fog, and it ended up deleting most of the walls and it slowly took people apart limb by limb.

RedBaronFlyer

WELCOME TO GOOD IDEAS BADLY WORDED BY REDBARONFLYER, if you don't know how this sort of thing works, I bring up potentially good ideas and despite my best efforts, word them as badly as possible!

I've tried typing this out like five times and I feel like I'm vomiting disorganized words. I'm going ...

RedBaronFlyer

see, this is why I type ingame with an exaggerated southern accent so when people try to impersonate me it's instantly given away

When someone doesn't use ain't, y'all, all y'all, or shorten some words that end with g such as going to goin' or some words such as around being shortened to 'round ...

RedBaronFlyer

There's basically 0 chance of sentient disease coming back except in the form of "a different thing with the same name", it sucked and everyone knew it sucked. When polled it was our least popular antagonist by a significant margin both in terms of playing it and playing against it.

Do you ...

RedBaronFlyer

It was clearly a joke but I do get how it's hard to communicate that through text without using something like /s or something afterwards saying something like "(to clarify this is a joke)"

RedBaronFlyer

In my experience of megadeathaids at it's peak (or at least before sentient diseases were removed) in terms of gameplay was either sitting in the medbay lobby being gay baby jailed unable to even move because someone ran into your department coughing their head off (because the crew doesn't self ...

RedBaronFlyer

ehhhhh I'm honestly fine with genetics and robotics being separate from regular sci, same with coroner being separate from medbay doctor. To me the first two are separate enough from the regular stuff of sci that you'd get guys who just want to do genetics being screamed at to do research or someone ...

RedBaronFlyer

People don't ignore command members because they might be antags.

They ignore command members because the command member's interests don't align with the player's interests and, unlike real life, being fired isn't a real consequence due to the shift-based nature and is actually very difficult to ...

RedBaronFlyer

tbh I don't like any of the most commonly mentioned options, I do like the idea of head of staff antags so I wouldn't want to see them disabled, I don't like the idea of someone who primarily plays something like HOP or QM being punished with lower chances of being an antag so I don't like I'd like ...

RedBaronFlyer

I feel torn because on one hand I'm against having heads of staff always be good boyos who don't do any antaging, but on the other hand, I have observed a player stereotype that mostly seems to gravitate towards command roles for the sole purpose of baton + easier antag stuff. Personally I'd prefer ...

RedBaronFlyer

I like it even as someone who always picks skub neutrality. Sometimes I want to see anti skub protestors get mowed down by pro skub antags or have pro skub crew get refused service at the bar or something like that.

RedBaronFlyer

Roleplay is very hard to define, but at the basic level its just playing a character. Personally I build my character in relation to the round, I'll be on the same static name but playing it differently, sometimes hes just a grumpy ol bartender, sometimes hes a MIXOLOGIST and needs everyone to ...

RedBaronFlyer

I always found the idea that everyone was running around to be funny when you think about it. Not saying everyone should be made to walk for RP, but imagine going to the store and all the employees are flat out sprinting all over.

Funnily enough that last part is what it felt like working at a ...

RedBaronFlyer

I agree.

As it currently feels to me, movement is super weird where on one hand running is stupidly fast and gets you from one side of the station to the other in 15-20 seconds, to the point that anyone who runs offscreen while you type might as well be in Narnia, and on the other hand walking ...

RedBaronFlyer

I like the level it's at currently on Manuel, but yeah, high threat level doesn't necessarily equal a high threat round. I've seen rounds where security neutralizes most of the high level threats early on so a 60 threat round feels like a 15 threat one, and I've also seen 30 threat rounds kill half ...

RedBaronFlyer

I really like it! After playing for around 15 or so rounds that I can recall off the top of my head, there's only one real annoyance I have. The only thing that I kind of wish got adjusted is the lighting. In some places, particularly in the service parts of the station, it's so dark and moody with ...

RedBaronFlyer

The best thing we can do now is try and rebuild the server by coming up with new ideas instead of blaming mrp or whatever.

So true!

I quickly learned as a MRP player that literally everything is our fault, we're behind the code changes they disagree with, we're behind a grand conspiracy to ...

RedBaronFlyer

Fikou wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:49 am everyone here sounds completely insane

Part of the crew, part of the ship.

RedBaronFlyer

obiously terry is down because the mrp felinid headmin ERP metagang is finally enacting the last stage of its multi-year plan to kill terry after finishing off sybil so TG players are forced to play in a sterile HRP no-kill no fun allowed environment

(please ignore how manuel was down for a day or ...

RedBaronFlyer

This feels kind of weird, the whole time I've been here MSO has always been hosting. Regardless, I wish them the best.

RedBaronFlyer

This reminds me why I’m so glad goof isn’t a head admin, Jesus Christ.

RedBaronFlyer

I don’t really get the point of this, even as someone who detests silicons to my very core.

RedBaronFlyer

I think nukies is fine as long as you're self aware about being blithely goofy in a life or death situation. American soldiers called the Viet Cong "Charlie", I think being numb to death and destruction as a long time Nanotrasen employee validates "nukies".

me on my way to administratively ...

RedBaronFlyer

I gave monkestation a spin a few weeks back and it was pretty fun. Don't entirely like the consent based approach to round removal but it still had some space for random shenanigans and the population was healthy. I think it's done a good job growing the past two years. It definitely isn't LRP ...

RedBaronFlyer

Oh, icebox is default low pop map? No wonder Sybil was complaining about icebox 24/7 near the end. I like icebox but imo icebox is in my view an speciality map that should never be the default at any level because it operates different enough to the rest of the maps, due to the whole not in space ...

RedBaronFlyer

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying Sybil died because people got too busy with their lives or aged out or whatever. An entire server doesn't die in six months because everyone got too old. I still (mostly) see all the stuff Sybil players have been saying as pretty logical explanations. It's not just ...

RedBaronFlyer

Plus with multiplayer games aging out can totally be a thing. Someone can be a regular for years but reach a stage in their life (full time job as an adult, parent with a kid, college, etc.) where it just isn't feasible to play as much or at all anymore. Time is an increasingly valuable commodity as ...

RedBaronFlyer

My annoyance with the transformation sting is that no one ever did anything unique with it 99% of the time. Yes, it's funny the first few times someone makes the whole station the gaudiest felinid, but the twentieth time? The fiftieth time? Then it just gets old. Especially because the ling can ...

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