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Currently I can't do much with your appeal, as it falls within the period of our less than smooth host switchover and the logs are currently missing.

Turning members of ops bus upside down and shaking vigorously has yielded not only assurances that the data still exists but a substantial sum of ...

And if you ahelped to ask for that before going on a bender and griefing your own team, you're absolutely correct about how it would've ended. The fact you chose to grief them instead is a conduct issue which applies to all team antagonists.

I banned you from all team antagonists because instead of reacting reasonably you intentionally griefed your own team. You still haven’t shown the slightest hint of understanding why your behaviour was an issue, and so this appeal is denied.

Ban/note reason : Byond won't connect at all now so I can't pull the specific reason given

R1 - wished death to tramstation's creator after being hit by a tram. "Tramstation is repugnant and I wish a swift death upon the person who designed it" "I know who made it, too" "I was personally ...

It's obviously poisoning, treat with calomel followed by multiver

I feel the easiest way to draw a line would be to make it equal with what you could legally do without the AI.

If you would be barred from doing something personally, you would also be barred from forcing the AI to do it on your behalf.

A strong start to post-outage policy. Which time zone do we base it on though?

I had to leave for ~15 minutes for IRL reasons. The murderboning ling was spoken to, plasmafloods and the SM exploding are things which are within the wheelhouse of antags to do.

A different map to usual doesn't need the same level of oversight a complex event that involves ongoing intervention ...

Ban was placed by Iansdoor, 21/01/2024, round 222524.

Continue the name Cockinass lewis after being asked to change to something more IC by another admin. You may appeal on the forums if you want to.

If you could edit this information into your original post (including the banning admin's name ...

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Hey, after taking a couple of days to let this ruminate I’m inclined to agree that I overreacted in this case.

Having to make a very quick judgement call while you were breaking into the engine, the earlier talk about mechs breaking in and sabotaging the setup, Dax hurriedly arming the engineers ...

This was an ongoing event you had plenty notice was going on, there were CentCom announcements about there being a cascade research team. It wasn't a one-off incident either, you interfered with their SM setup, to my knowledge, on at least three occasions.

I understand that people want to have ...

Simply existing and having a trauma is not a crime subject to arrest, making what she did felony kidnapping, subject to a 500-800 point sentence, which I generously set as the minimum.

Being an antagonist because of that trauma is, however, a medical condition subject to medbay having the right ...

For future reference, you posted this in the regular /tg/station appeals subforum, I’ve moved the thread to the tgmc specific subforum.

Please reformat your post following the template given here viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44, this will make it much easier for everyone to read and work with your appeal.

It's been two years and your record is otherwise good, so I'm absolutely fine with lifting this, be free.

tl;dr I think the rules kind of already cover this, but I also don't think this should be solved by policy because the idea of Security needing to work together to arrest a single person in a group and deal with the fallout from it makes for a more interesting interaction than just citing the ...

The Problem

Consider the following situation. Security wishes to arrest an individual for some crime. They are with a large crowd which you know from events earlier in the round is combative and highly likely to actively interfere with any arrest, and there is no good opportunity to catch them ...

Thank you, that explanation along with an apology were all I was looking for since the first appeal, and I'm happy to finally put this one to bed. Ban lifted, be free.

In line with this part of the ban reason

Appeal on the forums when you're ready to explain how the exploit works.

Can you post your explanation of the exploit, please.

Cheshify wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:02 pm
joemama9plus10 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:58 pm requesting headmin review
homie the banning admin didn't even respond yet hold your horses

Horses are already free in the field

The original ticket, for reference:
From Ticket #4 during round 222074 on Terry:

---- Log Begins ----
2024-01-12 21:09:57: Ticket Opened by thunder12345: Hey, can you tell me what happened with Jordan Schmidt, please?
2024-01-12 21:10:11: Reply from accountnamecontainsreserved: he was ...

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It's been almost a year, and you seem to have largely stayed out of trouble since then, so I'm happy to remove this.

Remember though, second chances are free, third chances aren't. If anything like this happens again, you're going to have a much harder time coming back from it.

The reason it needs to be balanced is not because it needs to be balanced per se, but because every time someone finds something imbalanced in the game they abuse it over and over 50 shifts in a row until the coding team has to step in to nerf it because people won't stop abusing it.

This. If ...

Why is this in the Ideas section? The last thread on this topic was in Policy Discussion, since it revolves around Rule 8.

This thread needs to be moved to the much more visible Policy Discussion sub-forum so that all interested parties can actually see it, rather than the seldom viewed Ideas ...

It seems like everything I was going to tell you has been covered already by everyone else. You haven't shown any willingness to do as I asked and explain your exploit for reaching CentCom, nor shown any understanding of why this isn't allowed. Campbell is not a rules-free wasteland for legal bug ...

All your log entries from when you first say you want to surrender https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/terry/data/logs/2023/09/17/round-214785/
[2023-09-17 15:17:03.521] GAME-SAY: Annihilite/(Hans Heisenberg) "i surrender" (Command Hallway (120,126,2))
[2023-09-17 15:17:04.054] ATTACK: SirNooben ...

I wouldn’t know because I never use the default mop. Soap life until the advanced mop is available, fuck going looking for water constantly.

It’s been the better part of six years, I don’t have any problem giving you another chance. Should be lifted soon.

yobihodazine2 wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 10:56 am Is WGW against the rules now?

Yes. viewtopic.php?p=620056#p620056

yobihodazine2 wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 10:56 am How am I supposed ot set all my voice analyzers to the same trigger WITHOUT spamming?

Don't set them to a copypasta.

Kill post-revs. Nobody is in command any more, nobody is functioning as security any more, most of the crew have long since abandoned and forgotten about their normal jobs. It's pretty much guaranteed at that point that nothing of any great value is going to happen for the rest of the round. Either ...

Hey, sorry it took me a couple of days to find time to go through this. In short, I'm happy to reduce the ban to just a 3 day jobban in recognition of your less direct role, however you still handled this far from acceptably.

From this snippet of logs we can see you knew what was happening, and ...

There is no requirement to give out any information upon resolving a ticket, if you choose how to respond to the situation based on what an admin tells you about the validity of the incident then that is exactly the reason this information isn't generally given out.

You were presented an equivalent ...

You were, entirely validly, killed and force borged by a traitor. If you had waited until after the round was over before writing this, like you are supposed to, you would have known that.

You reported this, I investigated, I found it was valid, I told you the issue was handled (As you were still ...

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EmpressMaia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:24 pm Were headmins notified of this appeal?

I know at least one headmin is aware of the ban in general. Not sure if it was already lined up for headmin review so I've given them a nudge on that point.

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:46 pm That's it. That's the whole idea.

Still fits in security belts and sec clothing external storage.

I'll just put the rest of my belt gear in my backpack and carry five stun batons on the belt, this will do nothing about sec carrying multiple batons either

Under normal circumstances an appeal would be left open for at least 24 hours for any final questions or additional points, but in this case something about this particular thread seems to be drawing an absurd number of spam bots so I'm going to make the executive decision to lock it early and put ...

They left in the smg so it's lame, rifle only master race

Having looked into your references, the response was either that you played very few hours, or had played under 100 hours with multiple notes/bans. This isn't enough to convince me that you've changed sufficiently at this point, so I'm going to be denying this appeal.

Play on one of the other major ...

Put the cat back in the copy and paste code realm

This thread's been sitting for over a week with no headmin response, and when I asked about the thread yesterday the only reply I got was an expression of disinterest.

Safe to say at this point the headmins have no desire to take this up, so I'm going to call it resolved.

From Ticket #1 during round 196209 on Terry
Ticket opened at 2022-12-13 13:40:36 by iansdoor
Log:
13:40:36: Ticket Opened by-iansdoor: Hey, I got a question. So did the CMO suggest to the chemist to hypno them into syndie, validiating them into becoming an antag. after both of them were caught ...

There doesn't seem to be any content in this appeal other than a rehashing of viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32957 with a new subforum and template.

I would provide a response to this appeal, but there is no substance to respond to as you have not raised a single argument in your defence.

If you wish to ...

If you have an issue with the events of a round, the best thing to do is adminhelp during that same round. If there are no admins on and you have a serious issue that is what the urgent adminhelp feature is for. It is much harder to investigate issues after the server has already reastarted, and ...

Lifted

I give the cat a treat

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