Toolbox sprites

[kevinz000]

Toolboxes
New sprites or old sprites?
NEW

OLD

[danno]

is kevins our new art director

[kevinz000]

is kevins our new art director

no i just like old toolboxes better so i'm putting a poll for it.

[danno]

huh weird

[danno]

the old sprites are literally still in the game golfball

[Weepo]

[kevinz000]

how did you forget the old sprites so fast?

[PKPenguin321]

poll is very telling so far

[kevinz000]

poll is very telling so far

i'll take the time to make the revert pr when i have actual backing so i can tell cheridan that the players want the old ones.

[Remie Richards]

how did you forget the old sprites so fast?

Did you miss the very obvious thought that they might not have seen the new ones?

[kevinz000]

how did you forget the old sprites so fast?

Did you miss the very obvious thought that they might not have seen the new ones?

yeah I put them in the thread OP just now

[danno]

poll is very telling so far

i'll take the time to make the revert pr when i have actual backing so i can tell cheridan that the players want the old ones.

talk to the art director about that one bud

[danno]

kneejerk reaction because "muh legacy" is going to prevent this game from ever visually improving

you ever wonder why we only get like 2 semi-active spriters at most at any given time?

[kevinz000]

poll is very telling so far

i'll take the time to make the revert pr when i have actual backing so i can tell cheridan that the players want the old ones.

talk to the art director about that one bud

literally who is that?

[PKPenguin321]

kneejerk reaction because "muh legacy" is going to prevent this game from ever visually improving

you ever wonder why we only get like 2 semi-active spriters at most at any given time?

because all the actually good spriters move on to other projects

[danno]

Wjohnston. He makes sprite decisions.

[PKPenguin321]

he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas

[ShadowDimentio]

Oldsprites are precious and I love them.

[John_Oxford]

but think

you dont have xenomorphs with vaginas on your server

its a excluse /tg/™ feature

[danno]

he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas

You talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't take the time to create and try to contribute to the game
Wjohnston, Ausops, Nienhaus, etc.
even me
We're all putting in work here, doing our best
what crawled up your ass?

[PKPenguin321]

he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas

You talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't take the time to create and try to contribute to the game
Wjohnston, Ausops, Nienhaus, etc.
even me
We're all putting in work here, doing our best
what crawled up your ass?

the tiny toolboxes

and i have added things to the game, 119 merged PRs worth

tiny toolboxes suck

[danno]

art contributions bean head
The only reason they seem so small is because the game has a terrible problem with everything being fuckhuge

[PKPenguin321]

okay but seriously i like to poke fun at WJ but i dont have personal hatred for him even if it seems that way, we would be nowhere without our spriters

but when the poll looks like the way it does (scroll up, it's like 19 to 3) less than an hour after it's opened and you say "muh sprite manager" i'm not inclined to take you seriously

[danno]

I don't take "muh legacy" seriously so I guess we're at an impass

[kevinz000]

art contributions bean head
The only reason they seem so small is because the game has a terrible problem with everything being fuckhuge

why are you so assblasted over people wanting old sprites over goonstation copypaste sprites?

[cedarbridge]

art contributions bean head
The only reason they seem so small is because the game has a terrible problem with everything being fuckhuge

why are you so assblasted over people wanting old sprites over goonstation copypaste sprites?

Because new = "progress" obviously

[danno]

Unironically yes?
These old sprites are bad.

[PKPenguin321]

Unironically yes?
These old sprites are bad.

if they're so bad why do 20 people and counting prefer them to the new ones

[danno]

Because you've grown used to them, and our community is notoriously against change.
People didn't want speed nerf, or removal of stun gloves, etc, etc, etc, etc

[PKPenguin321]

People didn't want speed nerf, or removal of stun gloves, etc, etc, etc, etc

those are things that are actively detrimental to the game
toolbox sprite is just the toolbox sprite so if people want to keep the old one why not let them?

[danno]

Because it's ugly and poorly made, and improving the game graphically is just as valid as mechanically

[PKPenguin321]

Because it's ugly and poorly made, and improving the game graphically is just as valid as mechanically

if graphics were just as important as mechanics this game would not still be alive

[danno]

Reading comprehension

[PKPenguin321]

the thing is the "improvement" is not preferred by most of the people playing the game, so can you really even call it that

[danno]

Yes, the quality of the goon sprites is all but objectively better than the old toolbox codersprites.

[Wyzack]

Consider the following

Opinions on sprite work are just opinions, and the argument against these new sprites is literally the same as the argument against the new fire alarm sound

[ShadowDimentio]

he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas

You talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't take the time to create and try to contribute to the game
Wjohnston, Ausops, Nienhaus, etc.
even me
We're all putting in work here, doing our best
what crawled up your ass?

the tiny toolboxes

and i have added things to the game, 119 merged PRs worth

tiny toolboxes suck

Wait.

119.

911.

PKP DID 911

[PKPenguin321]

objection! this is slander

[danno]

he liked the old buildings better

[ShadowDimentio]

Realtalk, the autists complaining that the newsprites should be forced onto the server because they're new is just as autistic as the people that screech every time anyone changes anything.

The poll leaves nothing to debate however. Revert it.

[danno]

It was never up for debate to begin with

[PKPenguin321]

It was never up for debate to begin with

too late i've already disagreed with you

[kevinz000]

The playerbase's opinion is invalid.

[AnonymousNow]

When I see a comparison between old and new sprites, I don't expect the new to look old and worse, and the old to look newer and better.

Keep our sprites. They're larger without being obnoxious, they're clearer, and they're burned into our concious. They also make more sense alongside our Floorbots.

[danno]

The playerbase's opinion is invalid.

That's not what I'm saying.
A man given the job to make decisions about sprites made a decision about sprites.

[danno]

if the size thing is such a problem it's not like that can't even be fixes

[PKPenguin321]

The playerbase's opinion is invalid.

That's not what I'm saying.
A man given the job to make decisions about sprites made a decision about sprites.

a bad one

it happens! people can make mistakes. i handed out a bad ban once before and still regret it

[Luke Cox]

do not

[John_Oxford]

>admin
>regrets ban

deadmin now

[kevinz000]

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/23995
god fucking damnit.