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Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:13 pm
by Falamazeer
Honestly, they just deconvert right now, or prevent converts, which make them a nerf for sec rather than a buff, as it just means the mob murders you rather than getting to be an antag.

As an implanted crewmember most people don't join the other side, they fuck around until they are re-converted or more likely killed.

I propose that silicon style laws should appear to anyone implanted in their notes, as well as a round start, or implant message instructing:

You have been implanted with a loyalty implant! You must follow orders from any legitimate authority, Captain, heads, or officers of security. unless those orders are not in the best interest of central command as a whole.
Your Captain is (Name)
Your HoP is (Name)
and so on and so forth until all those with authority are named.



then their will be a bit of a tug-o-war for the conversion modes. where security can reasonably expect that implanted people can safely be armed and expected to fight for their side.

It'll be a big change, but once people get the message much like silicon laws, it will make these conversion deconversion fights much less annoying for admins to administrate, and players to fight.

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:22 pm
by Screemonster
Cue security just roundstart implanting random crewmembers every round and ahelping them when they don't obey what would effectively be law 2 orders.

If someone wanted to be a bitch for a set of rigid inflexible laws that dictate that they have to follow orders or be banned they'd sign up as silicons.

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:12 am
by kevinz000
Worst idea ever.
If I wanted someone to be obedient I'd Borg them.

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:26 am
by Saegrimr
There's making implants matter which I can get behind, and then there's this awful idea.

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:57 am
by Steelpoint
On the one hand this makes loyalty implants something with a lot of weight and importance behind them. On the other hand this is very open to abuse and shitty balancing wars.

If this idea was implemented it would need to be heavily overseen by the admins and the rules. Which is a whole can of worms.

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:37 pm
by Davidchan
This is basically how old school implants used to work and people didn't like that because it was used to neuter antags (even though their entire point was to be used on antags)

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:25 pm
by Malkevin
Make loyalty implants explosives.

You no follow order? You head go boom!


Detonated via a console in the HoS's office, which is DNA key locked to the Captain/HoS.

Re: Make loyalty implants actually matter.

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:45 pm
by Davidchan
Malkevin wrote:Make loyalty implants explosives.

You no follow order? You head go boom!


Detonated via a console in the HoS's office, which is DNA key locked to the Captain/HoS.
Captain and HoS are loyalty implanted, so it should be in the Captain's office unless it came with an irreversible permajobban to any HoS who thought he'd kill the Captain for snubbing him.