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Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:30 am
by Tornadium
Being able to get Antag status consistently and get into the armory and eat the entire armory in 10 minutes is fucking retarded.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:07 am
by ShadowDimentio
If the warden is doing his job they'll easily chase them off.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:18 am
by lumipharon
>implying there even is a warden most of the time
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:25 am
by Cik
>implying the warden will even see the morph
>implying anything can actually stop a morph as it eats the whole armory in like 2 seconds
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:25 am
by InsaneHyena
Tornadium wrote:Being able to get Antag status consistently and get into the armory and eat the entire armory in 10 minutes is fucking retarded.
> Consistently
Once again, Tornadium talks about things he has no clue about. Git gud.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:46 am
by Tornadium
InsaneHyena wrote:Tornadium wrote:Being able to get Antag status consistently and get into the armory and eat the entire armory in 10 minutes is fucking retarded.
> Consistently
Once again, Tornadium talks about things he has no clue about. Git gud.
It has happened 8 times in the last two weeks in rounds where I have been playing.
All 8 of those morphs have eaten the armory no later than minute 14.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:47 am
by Zilenan91
just git gud and weld the armory scrubber dude. There's a toolbox in there.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:04 am
by Tornadium
Zilenan91 wrote:just git gud and weld the armory scrubber dude. There's a toolbox in there.
Metagaming.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:05 am
by Zilenan91
No admins is gonna do anything to you for welding the scrubber if morphs have been invading the armory every round
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:08 am
by Tornadium
Zilenan91 wrote:No admins is gonna do anything to you for welding the scrubber if morphs have been invading the armory every round
Pretty sure it falls under the "don't fortify the armory at round start" rule.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:13 am
by Zilenan91
Zilenan91 wrote:No admins is gonna do anything to you for welding the scrubber if morphs have been invading the armory every round
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:32 am
by Tornadium
Tornadium wrote:
Pretty sure it falls under the "don't fortify the armory at round start" rule.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:39 am
by DemonFiren
Stop bitching and just try it.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:41 am
by Incomptinence
Just a hunch but maybe rare side antags aren't really afforded the same level of anti meta protection.
You would be wasting your time the vast majority of the time anyway.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:32 am
by ShadowDimentio
Tornadium wrote:Tornadium wrote:
Pretty sure it falls under the "don't fortify the armory at round start" rule.
>Doubleposting yourself
Shameful.
Also nobody enforces that rule any more because it's a retarded rule.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:32 pm
by Armhulen
This thread is a thin veiled "remove morph" thread
Am I right?
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:03 pm
by Aloraydrel
Tornadium wrote:Being able to get Antag status consistently and get into the armory and eat the entire armory in 10 minutes is fucking retarded.
>consistently
Good one!
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:23 pm
by Tornadium
Armhulen wrote:This thread is a thin veiled "remove morph" thread
Am I right?
No, I don't mind morph.
It's a "Lavaland is fucking dumb and you shouldn't be able to farm antag status and be able to cripple security in under 10 minutes.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:07 pm
by ShadowDimentio
>Farm antag
You have a small, random chance of there being a morph syringe at lavaland, and an even smaller chance of finding it.
Don't be dumb.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:11 pm
by onleavedontatme
There have been 359 rounds in June on Sybil (or at least I got 717 entries for the server starting up, between the attack and game logs), and the morph thing has been used 18 times in june according to attack logs.
That's around once every twenty rounds. Having it happen ~once a day might be a little too frequent, but it's hardly a consistent antag farming opportunity.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:29 pm
by Alipheese
It is never once a day on bagil. Ever. Like. Once a damn week. If the miner takes it.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:00 pm
by onleavedontatme
11 times this month for Basil over 262 rounds.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:20 am
by Bombadil
Still it's really fucking annoying all you ever do is invade the armory eat all the guns. Morphs rather boring because all you can do is eat shit and kill people
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:39 am
by ShadowDimentio
Have you considered not morphing yourself then
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:03 pm
by Gamarr
Kor wrote:There have been 359 rounds in June on Sybil (or at least I got 717 entries for the server starting up, between the attack and game logs), and the morph thing has been used 18 times in june according to attack logs.
That's around once every twenty rounds. Having it happen ~once a day might be a little too frequent, but it's hardly a consistent antag farming opportunity.
I want to point out that it is pretty much 'accepted' metagaming from lavaland roles that consistently spawn and beeline to A) Morph syringe or B) other kind of shit just like that. This highlights why ghosts
cannot be allowed to move around on Lavaland z-level; players are given an inch and they'll take the whole fucking thing.
As a note: I am a huge proponent of lavaland and what it can do for gameplay. However ghosts being able to view things and map out everything before their spawning influences the entirety of it, so no, I'm not going to stop harping about ghosts need to stop being able to view lavaland since there is no other way to bloody stop people from being little shits with metagame'd ghost info apparently.
Re: Remove Lavaland Morph
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:01 pm
by Reece
Gamarr wrote:Kor wrote:There have been 359 rounds in June on Sybil (or at least I got 717 entries for the server starting up, between the attack and game logs), and the morph thing has been used 18 times in june according to attack logs.
That's around once every twenty rounds. Having it happen ~once a day might be a little too frequent, but it's hardly a consistent antag farming opportunity.
I want to point out that it is pretty much 'accepted' metagaming from lavaland roles that consistently spawn and beeline to A) Morph syringe or B) other kind of shit just like that. This highlights why ghosts
cannot be allowed to move around on Lavaland z-level; players are given an inch and they'll take the whole fucking thing.
As a note: I am a huge proponent of lavaland and what it can do for gameplay. However ghosts being able to view things and map out everything before their spawning influences the entirety of it, so no, I'm not going to stop harping about ghosts need to stop being able to view lavaland since there is no other way to bloody stop people from being little shits with metagame'd ghost info apparently.
As one of the subhuman scumbags that does exactly this I agree that ghosts should not be allowed to look around lava land. It's hilariously broken.