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"don't bother" Flag

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:37 pm
by Midaychi
Add a flag on character preferences, called "Don't Bother". You set this if you want antags to "not bother with you", and not to waste their resources and takee risk in attempting to get you to be an antag helper.

If set to yes, antags will see a red frowny face icon floating above you. It is invisible to anyone who isn't an attack.

Those who see it know that using a mindslave or culting you or whatever is a waste of time, and can instead get their murder boners rattling.

Attempting to convert someone with this flag on will just insta suicide kill them instead, and any method that would waste resources will not waste those resources.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:41 pm
by TechnoAlchemist
Lmao

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:38 am
by lollerderby
That's called a jobban from the antag role in question.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:38 am
by Armhulen
h o l y s h i t

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:40 am
by Incoming
Undermines a core concept of the game.

Some servers offer this as a donation incentive.

Some servers are really lame.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:42 am
by Saegrimr
Bay might be right up your alley.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:34 am
by Steelpoint
Can I put this flag over me when I'm the HoS?

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:36 am
by paprika
Steelpoint wrote:Can I put this flag over me when I'm the HoS?
This is literally the funniest post I've seen all year

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:37 am
by iamgoofball
lollerderby wrote:That's called a jobban from the antag role in question.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:51 am
by confused rock
>be nukie
>find cap
>he has frowny face
>have to kill myself so I stop hurting the caps feelings
>explode
>get banned for bombing the cap who had frown

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:48 pm
by Wyzack
THIS IS A SAFE SPACE SERVER NO BULLYING SAD CAPTAINS

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:34 pm
by Lumbermancer
We get it.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:46 pm
by Bob Dobbington
This is a bad idea but could be improved. As written this has all sorts of problems. You don't get to exempt yourself from being targeted by conversion antags on the basis of your personal dislike for Communism or whatever. Remember, nobody "wants" to be converted; if you go running to cult/rev/whatever base as a non-antag and yell CONVERT ME PLOX it's supposed to be bannable. But there's also no real way to enforce active cooperation by people who just refuse to play as a cultist/rev/whatever. I'd get rid of the frowny face and write this in such a way that setting the flag causes your ghost to be permanently kicked out on conversion, and then your mob is offered repeatedly to ghosts until it's got someone who wants to play in it. That solves the game balance problem of shitty team antag converts without allowing people to just opt out of interacting with the round antagonist.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:59 pm
by Steelpoint
If you really, really, REALLY, wanted this system to work I would suggest a config/flag that means if the player is converted to a antag faction then the game offers up the player to any ghosted players, as well as designating the role the player is now in.

If someone accepts then they get control over the newly created conversion antag and the original player is booted out as a ghost, if no one accepts then nothing happens as usual.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:29 pm
by Armhulen
Steelpoint wrote:If you really, really, REALLY, wanted this system to work I would suggest a config/flag that means if the player is converted to a antag faction then the game offers up the player to any ghosted players, as well as designating the role the player is now in.

If someone accepts then they get control over the newly created conversion antag and the original player is booted out as a ghost, if no one accepts then nothing happens as usual.
it's a good idea but eh, I wouldn't bother

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:53 pm
by oranges
jobbans don't even protect you from getting converted you idiot. They're roundstart only

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:53 pm
by onleavedontatme
They autoreplace you when you get converted now.

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:59 pm
by paprika
Reminder that oranges is a maintainer

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:33 pm
by oranges
mm so we make a way to self jobban

genius

Re: "don't bother" Flag

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:25 am
by lzimann
oranges wrote:mm so we make a way to self jobban

genius
all you need to do is ahelp: "hey ban me from X pls", then if you want to play that role again someday, you ahelp: "hey unban me from X pls"