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[Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:02 am
by Hamfam77
Byond account and character name: Hamfam77 / I dont namefag
Banning admin: Ausops
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Video games.
Ban reason and length: Permanent
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 5/18/16 12:00 PM PST
Your side of the story: Since Ausops was evading my question with cheeky cuck answers like
http://imgur.com/a/6LH5z and banned me, this is my only avenue to continue our conversation.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I shouldn't.
It's against the rules as a nonantagonist. I did it, I got banned, all is well, there's no contest here.
What I don't understand (and what my GOOD FRIEND Ausops refused to answer) is how you're supposed to treat a hypothetical situation such as this :
Memer A lubes up a hallway.
Memer B slips and gets triggered.
Memer B hasn't seen Memer A before, but he knows that only antagonists are allowed to do what Memer A did.
Is Memer B free to murder, maim, and otherwise meme on Memer A, with the understanding that Memer A MUST be an antagonist, since he's using lube?
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:07 am
by Hamfam77
Also since there's no way to convey emotion through text, I'll make it clear that there's no hard feelings. I just want this question answered because it's been bugging me for the longest time.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:49 pm
by imblyings
>if i get banned for doing x does that mean I can valid anyone doing x who hasn't gone catatonic
>shitton of notes since joining
do you see how your actions make you unwelcome from this server
lubenading cargo office and the hallway outside hops office because cargo didn't order a toy crate for you is not ok
this does not mean you get to jump to asking if you can valid anyone who has lube on them
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 4:25 pm
by Hamfam77
imblyings wrote:
do you see how your actions make you unwelcome from this server
Yes, and I got banned for said actions. I got punished for it. Not sure why you're bringing this up when it has nothing to do with what I'm asking.
imblyings wrote:
lubenading cargo office and the hallway outside hops office because cargo didn't order a toy crate for you is not ok
Yes, and I got banned for it. It was wrong, I got punished for it. Not sure why you're bringing this up when it has nothing to do with what I'm asking.
imblyings wrote:
this does not mean you get to jump to asking if you can valid anyone who has lube on them
Not that it matters in the slightest, but I /did/ say I wouldn't do it again, and my GOOD FRIEND Ausops still wouldn't answer the question.
As much as I love constructive criticism, if you aren't going to address the question I posed then don't waste your time in this thread. You guys probably have better things to be doing, with all due respect.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:06 pm
by lollerderby
Your responses here were kind of garbage tbh, yeah if someone's spraying lube all over the fucking place for no reason you can assume he's an antagonist and act accordingly but being all "hurr I'm gonna lynch anyone who so much as has lube on their person" is a bit of a stretch.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:13 pm
by Hamfam77
lollerderby wrote:
Your responses here were kind of garbage tbh, yeah if someone's spraying lube all over the fucking place for no reason you can assume he's an antagonist and act accordingly but being all "hurr I'm gonna lynch anyone who so much as has lube on their person" is a bit of a stretch.
Appreciate the honesty.
lollerderby wrote:
yeah if someone's spraying lube all over the fucking place for no reason you can assume he's an antagonist and act accordingly
Literally all I came to ask, thanks for actually answering the question. Is this an agreed-upon consensus or is it a grey area?
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:07 pm
by IrishWristWatch0
There is no grey area. Act like an antagonist get treated like an antag. But that implies they're doing something. Not walking aboot with something on them.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:35 pm
by Hamfam77
IrishWristWatch0 wrote:There is no grey area. Act like an antagonist get treated like an antag. But that implies they're doing something. Not walking aboot with something on them.
Noted, this is all I needed to know. Close and move the thread; I'll see you lads next year.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:16 pm
by Screemonster
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it not so much "only antagonists can use lube" as "only antagonists can be massive dicks and fuck up large areas of the station and render them impassible"?
Or more closely "antagonists are allowed to be bigger dicks than nonantags, lubegrenading an entire hallway is being a big dick"
Asking "hey guys where is the line drawn for me to meta that someone's an antag and validkill them" is a garbage attitude though
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:15 pm
by oranges
you should be banned for the ratio of your profile pic.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:59 am
by J_Madison
Screemonster wrote: "antagonists are allowed to be bigger dicks than nonantags, lubegrenading an entire hallway is being a big dick"
Not exactly true but better saved for another thread. Non-antags easily be a bigger dick than antags, but their limits and reasonable excuses are fewer.
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:25 am
by TechnoAlchemist
oranges wrote:you should be banned for the ratio of your profile pic.
i was gonna say it but i'm glad you did
Re: [Ausops] Hamfam77 - Larry the Lube Lad
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:05 am
by Hamfam77
TechnoAlchemist wrote:oranges wrote:you should be banned for the ratio of your profile pic.
i was gonna say it but i'm glad you did
Came back to fix this just for you.