Dismemberment feedback

phil235 · Post by **phil235** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:55 pm #174145

The PR will be merged soon. Post your feedback in this thread.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu May 05, 2016 8:04 pm #174151

>tfw this is not a meme

what a time to be alive

Post by **Atlanta-Ned** » Thu May 05, 2016 9:03 pm #174178

I love it! NOW MAKE ME HATE IT

Incomptinence · Thu May 05, 2016 9:25 pm

Brace for growing pains.

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu May 05, 2016 9:30 pm #174195

Aw yeah! Now when I fully augment someone his head will be robotic too!

oh yeah i guess the dismemberment is cool too

EndgamerAzari · Thu May 05, 2016 9:38 pm

FUCK now I gotta figure out how to make Byond not shit all over the floor of my computer so I can finally RIP AND TEAR

Thu May 05, 2016 10:13 pm

Get hype

Cik · Post by **Cik** » Thu May 05, 2016 10:21 pm #174217

wait lol what who finished it

Thu May 05, 2016 10:23 pm

Cik wrote:wait lol what who finished it

Hippie + phil

confused rock · Fri May 06, 2016 2:54 am

Wheelchairs when?

Post by **lumipharon** » Fri May 06, 2016 3:23 am #174281

Peg.
Leg.

Incomptinence · Fri May 06, 2016 7:11 am

Rocket legs, laser hands, machine gun ass.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:12 am #174319

Incomptinence wrote:Rocket legs, laser hands, machine gun ass.

0/10 not machine gun groin

NSFW:

onleavedontatme · Fri May 06, 2016 7:14 am

Seems pretty inconsequential right now since it isnt really a practical combat strategy. I think it's probably better that this big system get in the game without balance arguments though, always time for those later. Cutting hands off criminals is funny as well.

InsaneHyena · Post by **InsaneHyena** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:15 am #174323

My only experience with this system so far was finding someone's head in the maint. It was creepy.

Incomptinence · Fri May 06, 2016 8:34 am

DemonFiren wrote: 0/10 not machine gun groin

Why... why would asto boy have a machine gun in his groin?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:54 am #174354

Incomptinence wrote:
DemonFiren wrote: 0/10 not machine gun groin
Why... why would asto boy have a machine gun in his groin?

Exercise for the reader.

Anyway, bucklecuffing someone to a bed or table and striking the mouth with a sword/wielded fire axe resulting in instant decapitation when?
Constructable guillotines when?
Hand/foot limbs to remove, rendering prisoners harmless but not complete quadriplegics and for giving pirate captains hook hands when?
Groin limb when?

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Fri May 06, 2016 1:33 pm #174374

Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen

Lumbermancer · Fri May 06, 2016 2:05 pm

I saw a guy punch someone using the Sleeping Carp technique and he made his limbs fall off.

EndgamerAzari · Fri May 06, 2016 2:29 pm

Lumbermancer wrote:I saw a guy punch someone using the Sleeping Carp technique and he made his limbs fall off.

I think this is one of those moments when a bug should become a feature. That's hilarious.

Shadowlight213 · Fri May 06, 2016 2:30 pm

I saw something similar with someone piledriving someone using the wrestling belt and their legs flying off.
Also explosions blowing off limbs is amazing.

EndgamerAzari · Fri May 06, 2016 4:34 pm

Shaps wrote:Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen

God knows I'm the last person with any knowledge about code issues, but didn't this happen last time we tried to implement dismemberment?

Lumbermancer · Fri May 06, 2016 5:06 pm

-you can do krav maga leg sweep without legs
-you can't use hands properly without legs; you can pull, manipulate items from containers, but can't hold anything in hands

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri May 06, 2016 5:11 pm #174440

What is the alternative? Transferring damage to the torso magically? Lowering maximum health with limb removal? I cannot think of a logical solution

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Fri May 06, 2016 5:13 pm #174443

Lumbermancer wrote:-you can't use hands properly without legs; you can pull, manipulate items from containers, but can't hold anything in hands

Sort of intentional, I mean you can't hold anything while laying down anyway.

EndgamerAzari wrote:
Shaps wrote:Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen
God knows I'm the last person with any knowledge about code issues, but didn't this happen last time we tried to implement dismemberment?

Easy fix would just make a removed limb do 50 damage to the body and start heavy bleeding. Pretty sure someone losing both their arms would be a good reason to put them right into crit.

TheNightingale · Fri May 06, 2016 5:22 pm

Keep the limbs technically attached as stumps, so they can still take damage mechanics-wise; but have the limb item fall onto the floor, and the stumps be unusable (e.g. you can't pick anything up if you don't have any arms/hands) until replaced.

Lumbermancer · Fri May 06, 2016 5:28 pm

Saegrimr wrote:Sort of intentional, I mean you can't hold anything while laying down anyway.

But you can, if someone puts it in your hands.

Remie Richards · Fri May 06, 2016 10:23 pm

TheNightingale wrote:Keep the limbs technically attached as stumps, so they can still take damage mechanics-wise; but have the limb item fall onto the floor, and the stumps be unusable (e.g. you can't pick anything up if you don't have any arms/hands) until replaced.

That was the method for my original version of this PR (Hippie+Phil revived it)
it literally just dropped a dummy limb and gave the real limb some flags to allow code to ignore acting on it/drawing it.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:50 pm #174547

IT'S HAPPENING!

Time to literally disarm prisoners!

Aloraydrel · Post by **Aloraydrel** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:28 pm #174555

>Be roboticist
>Saw a borg patient's head off
>cut out the brain from his severed head

Saves a extra 20 seconds of clicking now!

phil235 · Post by **phil235** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:38 pm #174558

Shaps wrote:Cutting off someone's limb removes all the damage that they had on that limb which basically heals them for like 75 damage upon losing the limb. That probably shouldn't happen

Half of the limb's damage is transfered to the chest actually.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Sat May 07, 2016 12:15 am #174570

So are things even more like Superjail now?

confused rock · Sat May 07, 2016 12:16 am

can spears dismember?

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat May 07, 2016 12:20 am #174574

They're sharp so yes

You can probably dismember people by throwing them too

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat May 07, 2016 8:49 am #174641

Then it's not Superjail, but Toribash.

confused rock · Sat May 07, 2016 2:28 pm

You should be able to attach detached limbs to people, not just robotic limbs.

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Sat May 07, 2016 4:48 pm #174707

>Get Abducted into a dark corner of maint
>Get strapped to a table by my captor.
>Proceeds to cover my apparent transgressions and sins
>Slowly cuts me to pieces.

10/10 would play "Dexter : Victim Simulator" again.

onleavedontatme · Sat May 07, 2016 6:14 pm

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/17453

Remie***** (and Crystal and Phil) have made something super nice, so I'm trying to ruin it. Please like and subscribe.

Remie Richards · Sat May 07, 2016 6:16 pm

Kor wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/17453

Phil has made something super nice, so I'm trying to ruin it. Please like and subscribe.

*loud cough in the direction of Kor*

Sat May 07, 2016 8:51 pm

The unloved rock wrote:You should be able to attach detached limbs to people, not just robotic limbs.

I think it'd be neat if genetics could grow new limbs that can be attached to amputees

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Sun May 08, 2016 12:08 am #174785

I feel like there ought to be a particularly noticeable message when you get dismembered, or someone else loses a limb. I tried it yesterday and it didn't register that my arm had come off until I saw it on the ground: even if there was a message (I don't think there was) I didn't see it.

Given we're entirely okay with spamming up the screen with reports for every gunshot in a three round burst or whatever, it seems like we'll be okay with one more message for the most significant injury someone can realistically receive while still standing.

A3STH3T1CS · Post by **A3STH3T1CS** » Sun May 08, 2016 12:27 am #174787

"what happened to my arm admins??"

Lumbermancer · Sun May 08, 2016 12:37 am

People just chop their arms and legs left and right, there seem to be no immediate consequences. I'm not sure if I like it.

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Sun May 08, 2016 1:46 am #174802

I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!

The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?

Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber

confused rock · Sun May 08, 2016 2:22 am

Jacough wrote:I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!

The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber

>not working as somebody with no limbs with another beggar dragging you around who has 1 arm and no tongue

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sun May 08, 2016 2:34 am #174816

Jacough wrote:I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!

The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber

/vg/ lets you start without certain limbs or prosthetic limbs.
I'd usually just sign up as an armless legless assistant and be a really big pAI without the cool features.

Chef grabbed me, showed me how to make spaghetti, then force fed me spaghetti for about half an hour.

Sidon · Post by **Sidon** » Sun May 08, 2016 3:04 am #174820

Saegrimr wrote:
Jacough wrote:I can finally play as Mr. Handy the helpful armless clown again whoo!

The unloved rock wrote:Wheelchairs when?
Remind me to do a clown gimmick if they get added where I cut both my legs off, get in a wheelchair and go around the station begging for various things while telling people I used to be a proud member of the ERT security force until a rogue mime sliced my legs off with an esaber
/vg/ lets you start without certain limbs or prosthetic limbs.
I'd usually just sign up as an armless legless assistant and be a really big pAI without the cool features.

Chef grabbed me, showed me how to make spaghetti, then force fed me spaghetti for about half an hour.

It would be cool to have roundstart augments, but maybe not as good as what you can get in round?. You can lop anything off now so it balances having them now I think.

Starting without certain limbs would be neat, and can cut down on people asking to be made into stumps.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sun May 08, 2016 3:13 am #174821

Sidon wrote:It would be cool to have roundstart augments, but maybe not as good as what you can get in round?. You can lop anything off now so it balances having them now I think.
Starting without certain limbs would be neat, and can cut down on people asking to be made into stumps.

Pretty sure they were limited to peg leg, hook hand, or just a standard prosthetic which has no mechanical advantage or disadvantage.
Could also start with a mechanically assisted heart or eyes which fucked you up when you get hit with EMP, though I don't think they had any benefits either. Or start with nearsightedness and glasses.

Screemonster · Sun May 08, 2016 9:38 am

Lumbermancer wrote:I saw a guy punch someone using the Sleeping Carp technique and he made his limbs fall off.

Spoiler:

Feature, not bug.

confused rock · Sun May 08, 2016 5:49 pm

What if you could make makeshift peg legs out of rods and hook hands out of botany cultivators