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fix cryo
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:14 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
its too slow now.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:19 pm
by ShadowDimentio
"You're too slow"
-Sanic the hugehug
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:31 am
by Super Aggro Crag
cryo is so slow now it is very frustrating to play medical doctor and have your critical patients die because of it. if you're lucky and it's metastation you can tweak the showers to spray ice water out and use that as ghetto cryo but honestly that's silly.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:40 am
by Deitus
cyro has been fucked for a long time now and its frankly something that needs to have been fixed a long time ago, especially during busy shifts where you're cloning out the ass and the temp decides to jump to 300+k every time you stick a new body in
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:42 am
by iamgoofball
Try injecting epipens before stuffing people in, or maybe try using actual medicine and doctoring techniques that aren't the cryo tube?
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:44 am
by iamgoofball
On that note:
Cryo really shouldn't be the only cloneloss healer, there's ryetalin but that's stupid hard to make, which should be fixed.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:55 am
by ShadowDimentio
I agree. Clone damage is very rare and very deadly, but there should be ~SOMETHING~ you can do that isn't a super rare chem or shitty cryo.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:49 am
by firecage
Fucking fix cryo. And no Iamgoofball, this is retarded.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:46 am
by PKPenguin321
short, easy to perform "reconstructive surgery" that removes cloneloss when?
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:02 am
by iamgoofball
firecage wrote:Fucking fix cryo. And no Iamgoofball, this is retarded.
Why is being an actual doctor instead of cryotube operator "retarded"?
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:05 am
by lumipharon
because 'an actual doctor' is 99% of the time 'sleeper operator' and 'patch applicator'
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:10 am
by Super Aggro Crag
Go code an actual medical system then, goofball, you obsequious dogcunt. Considering you changed medical to be "slap synthflesh and call it a day", you have as much of a right to criticize people for not being doctors as Japan has the right to criticize people for war crimes.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:49 pm
by firecage
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Go code an actual medical system then, goofball, you obsequious dogcunt. Considering you changed medical to be "slap synthflesh and call it a day", you have as much of a right to criticize people for not being doctors as Japan has the right to criticize people for war crimes.
Fuck no Sac....I already hated it last time Goof tried to overhaul medical.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:52 pm
by Incomptinence
Replace cryo with flesh vats to reconstitute the corpses of the weak into nutrients for our ravenous cloning industry.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:24 pm
by Davidchan
You could, oh I don't know, change cryotubes so they are only efficient at stabilizing critical wounds and healing clone loss, anyone above 25% health would regenerate at a reduced rate. As for doctoring, Cryoxadone has always been the best healing method, it's just Cryotubes are self limiting thanks to the fact that we only get two and requires someone competent in engineering to reconfigure the piping.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:09 pm
by Cobby
using cryo is your first mistake, just forcefeed them cryox and salbu and put them outside escape for R A P I D H E A L S
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:47 pm
by Wyzack
I mean, cryo being a shitty heal and higher tier chems being a faster heal does not seem like such a bad system does it? Medical doctors now need to work and cooperate with the rest of medbay if they want effortless easy instaheals
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:58 pm
by Saegrimr
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Go code an actual medical system then, goofball, you obsequious dogcunt. Considering you changed medical to be "slap synthflesh and call it a day", you have as much of a right to criticize people for not being doctors as Japan has the right to criticize people for war crimes.
>Did Goofchem
>You actually want him to do more shit involving medical
Crag are you okay?
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:17 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Wyzack wrote:I mean, cryo being a shitty heal and higher tier chems being a faster heal does not seem like such a bad system does it? Medical doctors now need to work and cooperate with the rest of medbay if they want effortless easy instaheals
good luck juggling six critical half-corpses while discussing realpolitik and bartering with chemistry in an attempt to get a cure.
Saegrimr wrote:Super Aggro Crag wrote:Go code an actual medical system then, goofball, you obsequious dogcunt. Considering you changed medical to be "slap synthflesh and call it a day", you have as much of a right to criticize people for not being doctors as Japan has the right to criticize people for war crimes.
>Did Goofchem
>You actually want him to do more shit involving medical
Crag are you okay?
reading comprehension, i was calling him a shitter who has no idea what he's talking about saying medbay is too easy since he's the fucking idiot who invented Instantly Heal All Damage Patches.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:58 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
brute packs don't heal clone damage buddy :^)
the other doctors are erping in the bar
i ran out of power cells 5 corpses ago
chemistry is busy handing out space lube
oop oop oop looks like i now have to spend the next 35 minutes micromanaging corpses!
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:06 pm
by lumipharon
>remove cryo because it's too easy, gotta be a real doctor hurr
>just use medkits and patches, much more in depth and interesting system
Neither is complex, but clicking on a guy once or twice at most to heal all their brute, burn or toxin damage then they can leave, is more shitty and basic then having a cryotube, that require you to have a non shit mix inside (or atleast some cryox and not acid), the right temp, make sure the patient doesn't have certain powers or clothes, and gotta take them out and wake them up afterwards.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:17 pm
by TechnoAlchemist
Did the rytelyn recipe change with goofchem because it wasn't that bad before
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:55 am
by Cobby
1 part Carpotoxin
1 part Cryptobiolin
1 part Copper
Carpotoxin relies on Botany [which could just clone the bodies anyways/few people besides Daisy Holmes plays it/ Fewer people actually know about how to obtain carpotoxin with mutated soybeans] OR carp which the chef probably has by now.
Crypto is an easy-to-make chem that has no use outside of making spaceacillin which is found in vending machines [enough to cure one individual for antibodies]
Copper is in the machine
Having a way to make this inhouse without reliance on botany+RNG with unstable would be lovely.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:08 am
by lumipharon
That shit is also now rediculously powerful.
If memory serves me right goof buffed it to instantly heal all clone damage, but not 100% certain if that actually got merged or not.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:36 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Or you could make the cryo tubes not take twelve minutes to cool someone enough to work.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:36 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
seriously, who the fuck benefits from making the cryo chamber fucking slow as twenty dicks? Certainly not the guy who got cloned who is now out of the round for 30 minutes instead of 10. Certainly not the chemist, because he's already busy making instant-heal fuck-you patches and space drugs. Certainly not the medical doctor who now has to juggle critical bodies and pray to christ that someone else joins with a full medkit. Certainly not the CMO, because he's busy ERPing in the bridge.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:47 pm
by Saegrimr
stop dieing lmao
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:09 am
by Super Aggro Crag
i'm not dying, i'm the guy trying to keep everyone alive, dingdong. i'm never actually lucky enough to get critted anywhere i'll be found and brought to cryo, ha ha.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:11 am
by Shaps-cloud
Yeah I don't know why cryo is suddenly really slow, there was no changelog about it so I imagine it's a bug?
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:04 am
by Super Aggro Crag
yeah but heaven forbid someone bring it up to the coders without them shitting about GIT GUD GIT GUD HUR HUR HUR LET'S REMOVE CLONING
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:08 am
by Saegrimr
There's been a few atmos-related changes lately, and i've noticed pipes being fucky on more than one occasion, namely trying to get gasses into a can. Not sure how they interact with cryopods though.
Might be related.
Re: fix cryo
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:13 am
by Super Aggro Crag
What seems to be the issue to me is people in the cryo tube taking a really long time to get cold enough for cryo to start working.