[TechnoAlchemist] - refuses to help, random restart, rude

[J_Madison]

I ahelped about the bugged away mission Wild West mines; the windows are meant to be broken so you can fucking continue the mission.
What's his response?
Tough luck, find another way (there is no other way), cut the wall down (only ONE of us had tools, and we were lucky he did).

You were well aware we were doing the away mission, you were aware how far we got. And toward the end, I even AHELPED saying we're so close to end of mission, don't fucking restart it because malf AI is dead.

"i was busy investigating something " and restarted it anyway. Fair enough.


But here's the kicker.

I'm getting real fucking tired of this response to my questions.
NikNak said it, Saeg said it, and I've ragged them about it.

It doesn't matter what I host, if I can host, what I donate and what I do.
Don't dismiss someone on the grounds they host a server, or they're capable of doing so. That shit is irrelavent. I'm a player.

[iamgoofball]

this is shitty behavior for admins, don't do this shit please

[oranges]

They're just jealous, I wouldn't put much stock in this.

Anyway obviously a headmin should give them a talking too for being salty babies in supportbus.

edit:The admins that is

[TechnoAlchemist]

i was observing and I do assure you that if you had gone southwest, through two double doors, then north you could have gotten to where you were trying to get through.

There is nothing random about restarting, the round would have ended normally if not for the fact that there was a big metagaming accusation I had to look into. If you can't handle the round ending then???? I don't know what to say, that's how gamemodes work, i'm sorry it offended you.

As for the comment, my bad.

[Saegrimr]

<J_Madison> TechnoAlchemist
<J_Madison> WHY
<TechnoAlchemist> what
<J_Madison> god dammit I ahelped telling you
<J_Madison> don't restart we almost beat away mission!
<TechnoAlchemist> i was busy investigating something
<J_Madison> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
<TechnoAlchemist> take the code and play it on your server with some people :^)


Yes lets take what looked like a comment in response to your "I almost finished playing my own side mission fuck everybody else on the server waaa" as some kind of server war bullshit. You really are a huge crybaby about the round ending when the round was already done.

If you want to play singleplayer, or a tiny mission with a couple friends... take the code and go play it on your server. Theres 80+ other people waiting on the next round.

[Zilenan91]

To be fair it wouldn't have been that hard to wait the ~7 minutes for the shuttle to get to centcom, but yeah.

[J_Madison]

<J_Madison> TechnoAlchemist
<J_Madison> WHY
<TechnoAlchemist> what
<J_Madison> god dammit I ahelped telling you
<J_Madison> don't restart we almost beat away mission!
<TechnoAlchemist> i was busy investigating something
<J_Madison> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
<TechnoAlchemist> take the code and play it on your server with some people :^)


Yes lets take what looked like a comment in response to your "I almost finished playing my own side mission fuck everybody else on the server waaa" as some kind of server war bullshit. You really are a huge crybaby about the round ending when the round was already done.

If you want to play singleplayer, or a tiny mission with a couple friends... take the code and go play it on your server. Theres 80+ other people waiting on the next round.

Maybe being a crybaby is being vocal, rather that taking it up and ignoring it.

If you state there's server war going on behind the scenes, I'd be real offended to have donated to something I'm apparently trying to kill.

[Alex Crimson]

If the round was over, there is no reason to extend it just so you can do some away mission. Suck it up.

[NikNakFlak]

I bring up his server all the time because J_Madison is a big baby about /tg/ and litterly shits on this very server and glorifies his own all the time.
I'm not going to stop. We had a lengthy discussion in supportbus once where I laid out the exact reason people bring it up. Don't play victim here.

[Zilenan91]

What server does he own anyways?

[NikNakFlak]

8station? Hatestation? It's the 8chan server.

[Zilenan91]

I've never heard anyone talk favorably of it. Doesn't it have the panic bunker on?

[imblyings]

we're getting sidetracked.

The mission isn't bugged afaik, it's just incredibly difficult for even very well-prepared players using unintended game mechanics to exploit the map design. I know I've given a helping hand every now and then to players on an away map but admins aren't obliged to help.

Similarly, it's at an admin's personal discretion whether to delay a roundend or not. If they ended the round immediately after delaying to investigate, that's normal admin conduct, especially if there are many other players waiting for the next round.

Admins should treat players equally though and really should be above making passes at somebody like that. This is especially important since the ss13 community at large appears to be cooperating together recently and saying things like that don't really help. They've already apologized for it though and outside of making this a warning to other admins reading this to not repeat that sort of behaviour, I think this about resolves it.

[J_Madison]

The mission is bugged.
I did not at any time ask for help completing the away mission. I was incapable of dying and I had 2 others helping me.

Reasoning:
At two parts, you are required to break down windows to continue. These windows are meant to be smashed to continue.

At first set of Windows, attempting to go around will result in missing out on critical mission equipment, and walking into an area of mines, and cutting down that wall leads into a room full of flooding plasma.
At second set of Windows, there is no second exit. The placement of 10mm ammo is evidence the player is meant to go this direction.

I had requested these windows be deleted since they could not be broken.
Zaross/Dante Smith threw me several times to not even a crack on the window.
I have stated that we were lucky a guy had a blue toolbox; if he didn't bring it we could not have gotten past the first point.

[imblyings]

It's not broken.

I did an admin speedrun involving godmode and liberal applications of a m1911-p and I didn't find any issues. You definitely need tools to decon some walls due to immovable mecha wreckage but I couldn't find any other issues.

[ABearInTheWoods]

The windows aren't broken, they are just using the wrong icon.

they are actually border windows, border windows don't have the cracks overlay

You were doing damage, it just wasn't showing.

[oranges]

I'm not going to stop.

This doesn't look like an apology to me

NikNakFlak, with all due respect, please stop acting so childishly.

[NikNakFlak]

Here at /tg/, we believe in freedom. Freedom to say what we want about people shitting on our freedom. Freedom to call each other faggots and it not being the biggest deal in the world. Freedom to shit on 8chan, our arch nemesis when the leader of it goes into our house and starts ranting about our burgers! FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM

[oranges]

Then why do you delete my comments in ban requests/ban appeals?

[NikNakFlak]

Because telling people that metacomms is ok, is not ok

[TechnoAlchemist]

why must we fight

[oranges]

metacomms is okay if you do it with an admin though r-r-r-right?

[Alex Crimson]

What the fuck are you even talking about, and does it even have any relevance to this admin complaint?

[TechnoAlchemist]

it doesn't someone please lock this

[imblyings]

>say not to get sidetracked

you bunch of cucks I'm disappointed.