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[Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 3:08 pm
by Manadeel
BYOND account: Needicla/Megalopeos/Freshmaniscoolman/AlJibr/Manadeel
Ban/note type (Server Ban/Discord Ban/Forum Ban/Note): Server Ban
Ban/note duration: Permanent
Ban/note reason: Ban evasion of needicla and freshmaniscoolman
Time ban was placed: 2022-04-09
Server you were playing on when banned: I don't remember
Round ID in which ban was placed: 181291
Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
(x) - I was permabanned and I want another chance
Why should this appeal be accepted?: It's been a long time. I think it's been nearly a decade now since the original ban was placed. I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea what the original ban was for, but I know that most if not all of the subsequent bans have been me trying to access the server from other computers/IPs and different accounts. I think it's been a while and the ban has served its purpose. I don't even play SS13 anymore I just like to hop on every now and then to see what kind of changes have been made to the different servers that used to be popular back then.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 3:22 pm
by distributivgesetz
Welcome back. For context here is the original ban:
Freshmaniscoolman banned by Vekter from Server on 2015-06-19 14:53:56 during round #0.
Permanent ban.
(MANUAL BAN) You GOOOOFED (Probation terms, also Rule 0 per Stickymayhem, get out and stay out)
He is still around so I will forward this appeal to him. Both the original and the evasion ban will be taken into consideration so don't edit anything please :p
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 4:23 pm
by Vekter
Hey gamer, thanks for appealing.
This is an oooooold one, and admittedly my ban note wasn't great. If I recall correctly (and based on what I was able to piece together via notes), you were originally banned for just being an extremely low-quality player. Anything from revealing roundtype in OOC to going SSD at roundstart as Captain to doing all manner of minor rule breaks that eventually ended in your original permaban.
You were unbanned a total of twice and failed probation both times. Each time in the past we unbanned you, it inevitably led to you being banned again. How can you guarantee to me that we won't be back here in 3-4 months doing this again?
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 4:55 pm
by Manadeel
Well, as far as guarantees go, I can point to several bans of mine being removed from other servers, for example Colonial Marines, a couple of years ago. I was grateful to be given the opportunity just to show that I've changed as a person, because in truth, like you said, other than just being a bad player, I was also a bad person back then, and I needed a chance to show myself and people who might have interacted with me that I had become better. That's one guarantee, that this is more than just a ban appeal to me, I just need to remove the last vestiges of what I used to be online in the past. The other one is that I just grew up. Back when this ban was first applied I was about 15 years old, and a very immature 15 at that. I'm now 24, gainfully employed, with a normal and happy life. I don't have the time nor desire to be a shitter anymore, I just want to be able to hop on every couple of months, play a round or two, and go about my life. It's understandable if you don't believe me given my history, but it'd mean a lot if I was given another chance.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 5:08 pm
by Vekter
I need you to give me a list of every account that you've made to evade your ban on our servers.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 5:15 pm
by Manadeel
It's these ones: Needicla/Megalopeos/Freshmaniscoolman/AlJibr/Manadeel
and another one called Cenhelm I believe. I'm gonna be honest, there might be others, but those are the ones I know of for sure since they're on my Google Password Manager
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 11:05 pm
by Vekter
Okay, thanks.
Have you played in any significant capacity on any other servers recently?
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 11:18 pm
by Manadeel
Usually when I go on SS13 these days I either go on CM or Goon, so those are the two I play. I don't really play on any other servers.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 1:34 am
by Vekter
Alright, sounds fine to me.
I'm willing to give you another shot, but we do have a complication: You are currently blacklisted.
If I recall correctly, it has something to do with the following based on a ban note from /vg/station:
[17:17:23] hey guys, here's a ckey for you to ban: Freshmaniscoolman, we're currently contacting github support to get him banned from github after he posted a picture of irl decapitated heads in a row in response to a PR he disliked, and we also banned him from the forums after his ban appeal was denied and he made approx. 20 threads insulting the admin who banned him.
This is generally outside of my control at this time. I'll notify scriptis and he will need to actually approve unbanning you.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 1:39 am
by Scriptis
I'm deferring to Vekter on this blacklist entry; he may lift it at his discretion.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 1:44 am
by Vekter
Okay, given that, I'll make a point before we proceed: Your behavior before you left was beyond unacceptable. I think a lot of people would lose no sleep over telling you to go pound sand. I would rather chance getting a good, consistent player out of you and just ban you again if you continue being a problem.
So, keep this in mind before we proceed: You will be on thin ice for a bit. We don't really do probation anymore, but indications of the same behavior we shitcanned you before will get you shitcanned again, and this time, you're probably not coming back.
I highly recommend reading our rules. They have changed a lot in the last few years. Once you've done that, let me know if you still want to come back.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 3:14 pm
by Manadeel
I'm definitely ready to show you and myself that I've changed. I know that I have, so I guarantee you that there'll be no occasion where an admin needs to step in to admonish me. I'm ready to come back.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 5:04 pm
by Vekter
Manadeel wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 3:14 pm
I'm definitely ready to show you and myself that I've changed. I know that I have, so I guarantee you that there'll be no occasion where an admin needs to step in to admonish me. I'm ready to come back.
Alright, I'll hold you to that.
Which account did you want me to unban? Manadeel isn't currently banned so that's probably the best choice.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 5:18 pm
by Manadeel
Needicla is my main account that I created all the way back in 2012 so if it's possible to unban that one that's the one I'll be on
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 7:26 pm
by Vekter
Okay, you should be unbanned. Please let me know if you have any trouble connecting.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 7:59 pm
by Manadeel
I'm trying to connect on Needicla and it's still showing me that I'm banned:

Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 10:15 pm
by Vekter
Try it now?
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 10:19 pm
by Manadeel
It's giving me this message now. This is so embarrassing haha I'm sorry:

Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 10:34 pm
by Vekter
Yeah, sorry about that, you should be good now.
Re: [Jaredfogle] Needicla - Permaban Appeal
Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 3:27 am
by Manadeel
Yup, it's working now! Thanks.