/tg/Station 13

BYOND account:Jackary1

Ban/note type (Check what applies):
() - Server Ban
(x) - Note
() - Forum Ban
() - Discord Ban

Ban/note length:Permanent
Ban/note reason:Overescalation against a borg, while you had reasonable suspision to believe the AI may have been malf, that does not justify round removing a borg you could have unlinked from the AI as a roboticist.
Time ban was placed:2024-02-14 01:24:47
Server you were playing on when banned:Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed:223901

Why are you making this appeal?(Check what applies):
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
(x) - The ban/note needs modification
(x) - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?: (Relatively new to forums, sorry for any disabilitys in doing forum junk, note was placed on 223901 but the incident itself comes from R223898)
I would like to start this with despite my 222.8 RD hours and 98.5 Robo hours, I am pretty much useless when it comes to dealing with the de-emagging and subversion of individual borgs aside from just cutting them loose from the AI.

In this shift, I had people come to Robo and yell at me and my coworker for building cyborgs when the AI was malfunctioning. I went out and flashed the first borg I saw, NEXUS, and brought them back to deconstruct and reconstruct them, since I assumed that that would remove any emagging from the equation, which it allegedly did.
After I reconstructed them, I asked a few questions.
12:35:38 SAY Jackary1/(Wolf Muddler) (mob_3256) "Was DOOM malf?" (172, 124, 4) Robotics Lab
12:35:41 SAY NexusLeader/(NEXUS) (mob_3702) "no"
12:35:46 SAY Jackary1/(Wolf Muddler) (mob_3256) "What law did DOOM have" (172, 124, 4) Robotics Lab
12:35:51 SAY NexusLeader/(NEXUS) (mob_3702) "valentime"
12:35:55 SAY NexusLeader/(NEXUS) (mob_3702) "literally just protect your valentime"
12:35:55 SAY Jackary1/(Wolf Muddler) (mob_3256) "...." (172, 124, 4) Robotics Lab
12:35:59 SAY Jackary1/(Wolf Muddler) (mob_3256) "Was that it" (172, 124, 4) Robotics Lab
12:36:02 SAY NexusLeader/(NEXUS) (mob_3702) "yeah"
12:36:09 SAY NexusLeader/(NEXUS) (mob_3702) "and "do not state" but no other laws attached"
12:36:11 SAY Jackary1/(Wolf Muddler) (mob_3256) "Who's emagging" (172, 123, 4) Robotics Lab

It dodged this question by saying

12:36:27 SAY NexusLeader/(NEXUS) (mob_3702) "error 404 memory archives not found; unit was rebooted"

I believed that this answer was in especially bad faith, and assumed that the AI still had control over this cyborg and assumed that the AI was malfunctioning. Neither of these were true, but I didn't risk any chances and just fully deconstructed them and debrained them.

I believe that this note should be changed to
"As Roboticist, round-removed a borg unnecessarily due to the belief of the AI being malf."
Or something along those lines. Overescalation implied I had NO good reason to round remove it, and I had enough reason to assume AI was malf and to round remove the borg due to the multitude of people coming and yelling at me and my coworker.

Being fully honest here, I did not give this ticket the attention and time it needed. Looking back your proposed edit seems fair. It should be edited now.

Thank you. I do not entirely believe I should have this note in the first place, but an edit is also what I'm fine with. Thank you for being understanding!

This will be left open for more 48h to give Jackary the time to figure out if they want to request a Headmin Review or not.

After careful consideration and conversation with people who have actual experience in Robotics (And being called a punk ass bitch by Lolswat) I would like to get a headmin review on this to see if I can get it removed in full. I believe it was an IC issue that had no reason to be brought into OOC.

hey there, we're gonna go ahead and make this note self-expire in a month.

Sounds good! Thank you. This felt like another IC incident of silicons believing they are unbeatable lifeforms with no flaws. Feel free to close this, now!