[iansdoor] Shuttlebomb moment

[Cato]

BYOND account: CatoS
Character name:Conner Pfeiffer
Ban type:Server
Ban length:8 days
Ban reason:Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (CatoS) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is: Banned from the server for 8 days - Detonated a maxcap on the emergency shuttle before roundend, not realising the round had not ended yet. Killed eight people. Sadly, wasn't on to talk about rule 1 break. This ban (BanID #67842) was applied by lansdoor on 2023-10-09 16:16:28 during round ID 216388. The ban is for 8 days and expires on 2023-10-17 16:16:28 (server time).
Time ban was placed:2023-10-09 16:16:28
Server you were playing on when banned:Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 216388
Your side of the story: I made a bit of maxcap RP, since a scientist before me prepared everything for maxcaps, I gave 1 vague hint on the shuttle that i would bomb it (religious talk no real religion mentioned) carrying around a parcel, then openly dropped the bomb on the floor and 1 more open hint over comms before where I openly talked about blowing up the shuttle and I walked around station with a maxcap and asked if blowing up the pirates would be ok (wich indicated that I had a maxcap), I went to the shuttle set the timer 2 seconds after it arrived (for high precision bombing by nanotrasen™), was knocked out by the chemist spraying chems at everyone and then the maxcap blew up after the timer was on 0 after the shuttle arrived, after that people demanded in ooc that I be banned immedeatly because it allegedly was 1 sec before erog
Why you think you should be unbanned: So from my first of all from my perspective arguing about with +/- 1 second is pretty nitpicky, second I dont really know if it was really 1 second since this claim was made by others in ooc and I didnt look at the time of the explosion and I dont know where to find timers in the log, in my defense if the question comes up why didnt i talkt to the admin if i already was accused in ooc I would have loved to discuss this with the admin but since he didnt contact me before the server restart to wich as I want to point out he had 1-2 minutes or a potential restart delay to at least inform me that he wanted to talk to me he did no do it and so I logged out, if not unbanned I think that the time to serve should be at least reduced for a minor round impact 8 days seems a bit excessive
References of good conduct: I have a "relatively" clean record on tg wich I played a lot in the past and only recently played again (if that counts) maybe the scientist whom I helped refining anomalies could confirm that im a helpful guy since I helped him? (I dont know if he is in the forums)
Anything else we should know: yes sci banned in the past from fulp for blowing up a shuttle 1min before erog wich was like 1 year ago wich is toootallly different since I did it deliberately after sec tried to obtain my maxcap if i did do it thsi time it wasnt on purpose

[Timberpoes]

Server Rules

From Rule 1, Precedent 3

Rules still apply until the emergency escape shuttle has reached Centcom and the round-end antagonist report has appeared ...

From Rule 1, Precendent 1

... Each unjustified kill is normally met with one 24 hour ban.

The ban was for the events of Terry Round 216385

From https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... 5/game.txt

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[2023-10-09 15:46:56.083] GAME: /obj/item/tank/internals/oxygen/empty exploded with a power of 180.958 and a mix of TEMP=896.783, MOL=282.814, VOL=140 o2=280.569;plasma=2.0832;tritium=0.0812839;water_vapor=0.0812839;
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.084] GAME: Explosion with size (4, 9, 19, 0) in (Emergency Shuttle (208,84,1)).  Possible cause: the oxygen tank. Last fingerprints: catos/(Conner Pfeifer).

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[2023-10-09 15:47:01.042] GAME: The round has ended.

https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... eaths.html

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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_4349] (208,84,1) || Conner Pfeifer (catos) has been gibbed by an explosion.
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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_3324] (207,84,1) || Reginald Ironmonger (trerri) has been gibbed by an explosion.
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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_3305] (210,84,1) || Cetel O (thespiderqueen) has been gibbed by an explosion.
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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_3845] (210,85,1) || Silent Sorrow (clain1337) has been gibbed by an explosion.
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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_4210] (210,85,1) || Abdul Al Qanim (mazur907) has been gibbed by an explosion.
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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_3336] (210,86,1) || Cleveland Schofield (dinoboi1222) has been gibbed by an explosion.
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2023-10-09 15:46:56 [mob_3469] (211,84,1) || Rebeus Hagrid (daryakovalev) has been gibbed by an explosion.

[iansdoor]

Howdy howdy! I did wait around the next round in hopes to talk to you.

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[2023-10-09 15:57:34.583] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Iansdoor/(Vents-Hot-Air) "oh, ha. okay lets see it was catos. sadly not in this round" (Wizard's Den (203,37,6))

Lets clear up the confusion. Nick picky or not, you, the non-antag released a solid bomb on the shuttle before the ending screen. In turn, each grief death, not including yours, is 1 day ban on you. This is the logs of what went down. You were in the middle of a pack, hitting, your bomb hit 11 or more, but 9 died instantly.

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[2023-10-09 15:46:56.083] GAME: /obj/item/tank/internals/oxygen/empty exploded with a power of 180.958 and a mix of TEMP=896.783, MOL=282.814, VOL=140 o2=280.569;plasma=2.0832;tritium=0.0812839;water_vapor=0.0812839;
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.084] GAME: Explosion with size (4, 9, 19, 0) in (Emergency Shuttle (208,84,1)). Possible cause: the oxygen tank. Last fingerprints: catos/(Conner Pfeifer).
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.308] GAME: *no key*/(Conner Pfeifer) *no key*/(Conner Pfeifer) is no longer owning mob Conner Pfeifer(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (208,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.308] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: CatoS/(Conner Pfeifer) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.332] GAME: CatoS/(Conner Pfeifer) Client CatoS/(Conner Pfeifer) has taken ownership of mob Conner Pfeifer(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (208,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.448] GAME: *no key*/(Reginald Ironmonger) *no key*/(Reginald Ironmonger) is no longer owning mob Reginald Ironmonger(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (207,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.448] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Trerri/(Reginald Ironmonger) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.470] GAME: Trerri/(Reginald Ironmonger) Client Trerri/(Reginald Ironmonger) has taken ownership of mob Reginald Ironmonger(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (207,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.547] GAME: *no key*/(Cetel O) *no key*/(Cetel O) is no longer owning mob Cetel O(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (210,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.547] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: TheSpiderQueen/(Cetel O) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.567] GAME: TheSpiderQueen/(Cetel O) Client TheSpiderQueen/(Cetel O) has taken ownership of mob Cetel O(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (210,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.650] GAME: *no key*/(Silent Sorrow) *no key*/(Silent Sorrow) is no longer owning mob Silent Sorrow(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (210,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.650] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Clain1337/(Silent Sorrow) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.672] GAME: Clain1337/(Silent Sorrow) Client Clain1337/(Silent Sorrow) has taken ownership of mob Silent Sorrow(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (210,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.743] GAME: *no key*/(Abdul Al Qanim) *no key*/(Abdul Al Qanim) is no longer owning mob Abdul Al Qanim(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (210,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.743] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Mazur907/(Abdul Al Qanim) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.763] GAME: Mazur907/(Abdul Al Qanim) Client Mazur907/(Abdul Al Qanim) has taken ownership of mob Abdul Al Qanim(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (210,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.865] GAME: *no key*/(Cleveland Schofield) *no key*/(Cleveland Schofield) is no longer owning mob Cleveland Schofield(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (210,86,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.866] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) was assigned to a /mob/living/brain
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.885] GAME: DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) Client DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) has taken ownership of mob Cleveland Schofield(/mob/living/brain) (UNKNOWN (?, ?, ?))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.967] GAME: Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) has lost antag datum Obsessed(/datum/antagonist/obsessed). (Emergency Shuttle (211,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.972] GAME: *no key*/(Rebeus Hagrid) *no key*/(Rebeus Hagrid) is no longer owning mob Rebeus Hagrid(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (211,84,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.972] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) was assigned to a /mob/living/brain
[2023-10-09 15:46:56.991] GAME: Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) Client Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) has taken ownership of mob Rebeus Hagrid(/mob/living/brain) (UNKNOWN (?, ?, ?))
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.674] GAME: *no key*/(Cleveland Schofield) *no key*/(Cleveland Schofield) is no longer owning mob Cleveland Schofield(/mob/living/brain) (Emergency Shuttle (211,88,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.675] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.709] GAME: DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) Client DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) has taken ownership of mob Cleveland Schofield(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (211,88,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.714] GAME: *no key*/(Rebeus Hagrid) *no key*/(Rebeus Hagrid) is no longer owning mob Rebeus Hagrid(/mob/living/brain) (Emergency Shuttle (212,83,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.715] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.747] GAME: Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) Client Daryakovalev/(Rebeus Hagrid) has taken ownership of mob Rebeus Hagrid(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (212,83,1))
[2023-10-09 15:46:57.978] GAME-TOPIC: "status", from:51.222.44.203, master:, key:
[2023-10-09 15:46:59.844] GAME-EMOTE: *no key*/(legion) wails. (Lavaland Wastes (42,106,4))
[2023-10-09 15:47:00.262] GAME-TOPIC: "status&format=json", from:192.168.4.12, master:, key:
[2023-10-09 15:47:00.684] GAME-EMOTE: ViperSnake01/(Suzuka Nakamoto) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless... (Emergency Shuttle (212,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:47:00.843] GAME-EMOTE: *no key*/(grey baby slime (584)) sways around dizzily. (Xenobiology Lab (172,73,2))

[2023-10-09 15:47:01.042] GAME: The round has ended.
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.356] GAME: *no key*/(Suzuka Nakamoto) *no key*/(Suzuka Nakamoto) is no longer owning mob Suzuka Nakamoto(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Emergency Shuttle (212,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.357] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: ViperSnake01/(Suzuka Nakamoto) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.393] GAME: ViperSnake01/(Suzuka Nakamoto) Client ViperSnake01/(Suzuka Nakamoto) has taken ownership of mob Suzuka Nakamoto(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (212,85,1))
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.424] GAME: *no key*/(Cleveland Schofield) *no key*/(Cleveland Schofield) is no longer owning mob Cleveland Schofield(/mob/dead/observer) (Emergency Shuttle (211,89,1))
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.424] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) was assigned to a /mob/living/brain
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.433] GAME: DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) Client DinoBoi1222/(Cleveland Schofield) has taken ownership of mob Cleveland Schofield(/mob/living/brain) (Emergency Shuttle (211,88,1))
[2023-10-09 15:47:03.865] GAME-TOPIC: "status&format=json", from:192.168.4.12, master:, key:
[2023-10-09 15:47:04.500] GAME-SAY: LordGfus/(Adam Baltimore) "MURDER!!!!" (Emergency Shuttle (208,94,1))

Now, I have also been in this boat before ttv bombs at last .5 seconds of a round with Spookuni and what she told me as I will tell you. Folk's care about their greentexts or bringing their silliness to the end of the round. If you aren't an antag, don't ruin the ending for players around you.
Now I'll remind you of our rules, our first rule 1 "Don't be a dick" and specifically, part 3 of that rule, "Rules still apply until the emergency escape shuttle has reached Centcom and the round-end antagonist report has appeared. When the shuttle has reached Centcom, players are free to act as per lone antagonists, detailed in Rule 4. Non-antagonist grief upon the shuttle, from spamming flashbangs for no reason to spraying space lube, can be met with instant 5 (five) minute bans or more."
Mistakes happens. I hope you learn to be more careful with your bombs and I won't be lowering the precedent of one death, one ban day.

Edit: Timberpoes took my thoughts...

[Vekter]

I'm going to go ahead and lock this up, given that OP hasn't responded in about a week.