/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:10 am**

When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Sybil
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: jimmyl
Admin: Isratosh
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: 214306
Detailed summary:
basically like uh assistant guy Turbo Junior (Pepperoni Playboy) was being a "shitter" (according to security staff)
they got brigged and then released WITHOUT their toolbelt
which i presume they then shortly ahelped about it wherein

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[2023-09-10 09:50:15.803] GAME-COMPAT: ADMIN: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) spawned 1 x /obj/item/storage/belt/utility/full at Fore Primary Hallway (107,159,2)

Isratosh spawns this assistant a toolbelt which is prompty stolen by Head of Security so

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[2023-09-10 09:51:14.659] GAME-COMPAT: ADMIN: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) spawned 1 x /obj/item/storage/belt/utility/full at Fore Primary Hallway (107,159,2)

Isratosh spawns the assistant yet another toolbelt which they manage to not get stolen this time
then, the assistant is stunned by Head Of Security and thrown into Arrivals via a teleporter,
where they start cutting cameras, which leads to them being arrested again, this time security aint having it so hes straightjacketed, shuttle is called and security
brings him to Departures, wherein;

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[2023-09-10 10:06:04.039] GAME-COMPAT: 10:06:04.039] GAME-COMPAT: ADMIN: DSAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "im triggering this for a reason and if somebody else gets it i&#39;m kicking them out, sorry" (Departure Lounge)
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[2023-09-10 10:06:08.100] GAME: 10:06:08.100] GAME: Forced Event triggering: Lone Operative (/datum/round_event/ghost_role/operative).
[2023-09-10 10:06:08.100] GAME-COMPAT: 10:06:08.100] GAME-COMPAT: ADMIN: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) has triggered an event. (Lone Operative)
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[2023-09-10 10:07:15.472] GAME: 10:07:15.472] GAME: Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen) Client Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen) has taken ownership of mob Unknown(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Space (103,46,2))
[2023-09-10 10:07:15.474] GAME-COMPAT: 10:07:15.474] GAME-COMPAT: ADMIN: Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen) gave away direct control of Unknown to Pepperoni Playboy.

i do not think spawning roundending antags because someone got trolled by security and then putting them in said roundender is a good idea
nor spawning people toolbelts because of an IC issue

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:17 pm**

Worth noting, under peanut policy, the complainant had a series of altercations with the mentioned player that were not mentioned in complaint.

Link to raw logs: https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/sybil/ ... nd-214306/

Relevant tickets:

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[2023-09-10 08:48:13.162] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Hey, this borg has stolen my ID and refuses to give it back after being ordered to do so.
[2023-09-10 08:48:13.464] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Hey, this borg has stolen my ID and refuses to give it back after being ordered to do so. - heard by 1 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[2023-09-10 08:50:39.862] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Hey, this borg has stolen my ID and refuses to give it back after being ordered to do so. - heard by 0 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[2023-09-10 08:50:39.871] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Hey, borg is currently stealing shit from me and not returning it despite being ordered to.
[2023-09-10 08:51:42.144] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): What did he steal, and has he given it back yet?
[2023-09-10 08:52:02.153] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): My ID, and no. continues to mock me, asked Captain and captain brushed me off and laughed, saying I was cringe
[2023-09-10 08:52:09.405] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): ID and PDA.
[2023-09-10 08:52:20.958] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): How did he steal it? Did he drag it off somewhere?
[2023-09-10 08:54:03.306] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Stripped me and then dragged it away, presumably straight to grinder
[2023-09-10 08:54:54.224] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): stripped me for it, dragged it away.
[2023-09-10 08:56:09.316] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Alright, thanks. I see that it was returned to you now. I'll ask the AI about ignoring your orders. Was there some sort of inciting incident for this, why would the AI want to rob you?
[2023-09-10 08:58:19.203] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740): Hey I don't really care why it happened, but did you ignore that assistant Turbo Junior's orders to give him back his ID card and PDA?
[2023-09-10 08:58:34.961] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #3: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): there were conflicting orders about giving it back
[2023-09-10 08:58:46.541] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe): Who was saying not to
[2023-09-10 08:59:01.552] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #3: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): one of the heads
[2023-09-10 08:59:48.042] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Nope, totally unprompted. Just took my ID wordlessly for laughs
[2023-09-10 09:08:01.605] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Okay, I talked to the AI and there were conflicting orders coming in from the captain to send your PDA to security. You have the ID back now, it looks resolved to me. I do have to ask you about another situation though, involving Robin Banks earlier in the shift. You guys had a conflict over stolen shoes and it ended up with him dead and placed in the morgue?
[2023-09-10 09:08:18.106] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740): Yeah, checks out. Thanks
-snip- (lines about the other conflict with other player unrelated to this)
[2023-09-10 09:44:36.492] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Apparently I am being held for harrasing the AI. IDK, I love the idea of talking stuff out with people but no one ever wants to!! lol, I really don&#39;t like having to deal with this kind of thing believe me, but I&#39;ve spent most of my round in situations resulting from people doing petty garbage for fun
-snip- (lines about the other conflict again, unrelated)
[2023-09-10 09:47:22.495] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #2: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Yeah I get it.
[2023-09-10 09:47:45.382] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Okay, thanks I appreciate it. We're good here.
[2023-09-10 09:48:22.441] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #4: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Regarding this current situation, I don&amp;#39;t care about being locked up but they are taking my shit now and not returning it
[2023-09-10 09:48:22.823] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #4: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Regarding this current situation, I don&amp;#39;t care about being locked up but they are taking my - heard by 1 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[2023-09-10 09:50:50.366] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Damn, what a hardass. Run south and I'll give you another one.
[2023-09-10 09:51:03.693] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #4: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Here is fine, I&#39;d like him to see it.
[2023-09-10 09:51:56.199] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): I'm going to log off now, try to keep your nose clean please.
[2023-09-10 09:52:04.415] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #4: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Will do.
[2023-09-10 09:53:04.599] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Inky4567/(Tristan Werry): Bro it's not a crime to have a toolbelt, can you ease up on that guy?
[2023-09-10 09:53:31.609] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #5: Inky4567/(Tristan Werry)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): were just messing around with him jeez and as we speak he starts cutting cams
[2023-09-10 09:53:43.721] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Inky4567/(Tristan Werry): Well this camera business is new, you can act on that. It seems like you and the captain have been messing with him all shift
[2023-09-10 09:59:37.055] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #6: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): I&#39;m now being permabrigged in a straightjacket by the same kind folks who just arrested me and injected me with a teleporter implant for &#34;harrasing the AI&#34;!
[2023-09-10 09:59:37.508] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #6: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): I&#39;m now being permabrigged in a straightjacket by the same kind folks who just arrested me and  - heard by 0 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[2023-09-10 10:03:07.977] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Okay, I'll bite. How did it go down? Why are they doing this to you now?
[2023-09-10 10:04:11.578] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Would you like me to make you into a syndicate with a shotgun and you can shoot the shit out of these guys?
[2023-09-10 10:04:30.923] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #6: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): They arrested me for 5 minutes for &#34;harrasing the AI&#34;, implanted me with some sort of thing that lets the HoS teleport to me, put a tracker on me, and took my toolbelt before you gave it back. I got out for a few minutes, disabled a camera in a room because I was gonna try to remove my tracker if I could, and they somehow immediately found me, brigged me, and straight jacket perma&#39;d me.
[2023-09-10 10:04:37.772] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #6: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): that would make me very happy lol
[2023-09-10 10:05:13.432] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior): Okay, if you lose immediately it's not my fault but you should be able to pump them full of lead.
[2023-09-10 10:05:33.550] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #6: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior)->Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins): Roll the dice, yeehaw!
[2023-09-10 10:07:33.057] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen): You are directly below escape. You have an uplink
[2023-09-10 10:08:18.699] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen): You can buy C4 or an esword if you want, use the radio in your suit
[2023-09-10 10:08:35.416] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen): attaboy, good luck, if you can get the disk you can nuke the station
[2023-09-10 10:16:25.327] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen): Just one more nitpick before I go, please do not refer to "calling the gods" IC. It's OOC in IC
[2023-09-10 10:16:39.145] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ticket #6: Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen)->Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen): Copy that, my bad. Thanks again for this glory run
[2023-09-10 10:16:47.832] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isratosh/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen)->Pepperoni Playboy/(Jalen Clandestine*Gen): No problem.

Complainant was also noticeably acting as security while an AI in a shell - setting brig timers, using beepsky to stun people, etc.
Selection of snippets from logs - no real context so take with a grain of salt:

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[2023-09-10 08:40:41.251] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) is stripping Fixing Good/(Paxton Gobbler) of NASA Voidsuit. (Medbay Treatment Center (80,104,2))
[2023-09-10 08:44:00.565] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) is stripping Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) of the red jumpsuit. (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2023-09-10 08:44:04.690] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) has stripped Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) of the red jumpsuit. (Medbay Treatment Center (84,104,2))
[2023-09-10 08:47:46.678] GAME: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) disabled safety lock of Officer Beepsky (Central Primary Hallway (124,144,2))
[2023-09-10 08:47:46.800] ATTACK: *no key*/(Officer Beepsky) stunned Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (122,145,2))
[2023-09-10 08:47:47.924] GAME: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) re-enabled safety lock of Officer Beepsky (Central Primary Hallway (122,143,2))
[2023-09-10 08:47:53.082] GAME-SAY: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) "gottem" (Central Primary Hallway (126,130,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:10.289] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 177.3 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:12.022] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 177.55 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:12.833] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 177.9 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:14.801] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 175.05 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:15.115] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 173.6 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:15.344] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 172.05 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:15.671] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 170 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:15.969] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 167.7 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:16.322] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 165 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:17.629] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 160.05 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:17.912] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 155.9 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:18.108] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 151.6 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:18.362] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 147 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:18.688] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 141.95 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:18.837] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by 10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 136.95 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:19.986] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by -10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 109.8 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:20.289] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by -10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 83.2 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:20.614] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) modified the timer by -10 seconds for cell Cell 2, currently 56.3 (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:22.695] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) set cell Cell 2's timer to 180 seconds (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:37.123] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) set cell Cell 2's timer to 180 seconds (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:39:47.361] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe) set cell Cell 2's timer to 180 seconds (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
[2023-09-10 09:45:13.144] GAME-SAY: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) "extra time for insubordiantion" (Brig (100,165,2))
[2023-09-10 09:47:03.335] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) is stripping Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) of the red jumpsuit. (Fore Primary Hallway (105,160,2))
[2023-09-10 09:53:35.419] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) flashed(targeted) Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) with the flash (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (51,130,2))
[2023-09-10 09:53:36.240] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) flashed(targeted) Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) with the flash (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (51,130,2))
[2023-09-10 09:53:37.392] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) flashed(targeted) Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) with the flash (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (51,130,2))
[2023-09-10 09:54:08.060] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) grabbed Zxaber/(Adaptive Manipulator) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Port Primary Hallway (59,136,2))
[2023-09-10 09:56:46.299] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) flashed(targeted) Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) with the flash (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Delivery Office (74,141,2))
[2023-09-10 09:56:47.183] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) flashed(targeted) Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) with the flash (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Delivery Office (74,140,2))
[2023-09-10 09:56:48.147] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) grabbed Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) passive grab (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Delivery Office (74,140,2))
[2023-09-10 09:56:49.884] ATTACK: Jimmyl/(Computer Unit Mainframe Engineering Shell-740) flashed(targeted) Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) with the flash (NEWHP: 74.8)  (Delivery Office (74,140,2))

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:23 pm**

Separate post - precedent: Generally admins have been held to hold a role as a GM (in the D&D sense) over the round and to usher the round in certain directions - such as introducing conflict to the round if there is a lack of it. There is also some (though lesser) precedent for admins being allowed to give a wronged party some form of possible revenge as a form of less ostentatious managing of players. Minor acts such as spawning toolbelts has generally been held to be within the general remit of the admins so long as it does not unduly influence the round (i.e. giving a toolbelt to a traitor in permabrig, for example).

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:47 pm**

Arianya wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:17 pm Worth noting, under peanut policy, the complainant had a series of altercations with the mentioned player that were not mentioned in complaint.

Link to raw logs: https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/sybil/ ... nd-214306/

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the beepsky stun was pulled off in like 3 seconds to stop this dude from chasing me in the hall while his PDA that I "stole" was in plain sight in the middle of central primary near medbay and sci lobby

i had flashed this man a lot of times to prevent damage to structures like my cameras

in addition, i kept increasing his brig timer because they refused to stop insulting security and saying shit like
[2023-09-10 09:44:54.235] GAME-SAY: 09:44:54.235] GAME-SAY: Pepperoni Playboy/(Turbo Junior) "you guys should do a group suicide" (Brig (99,162,2))

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:02 pm**

As long as there's no indication they're spawning items for cheaty reasons like to be a pocket admin for their buddy and cheat by proxy, I don't care that he spawned some toolbelts.

As for spawning in a loneop?

On Manuel, sec once used a Scrying Orb from a dead wizard to start validhunting all the other antags. So I made the AI malf and they instantly validhunted that. So I sent in another wizard and nukies. And probably some other anatgs we just pushed buttons to "challenge the sec" team slight underscore smile.

They couldn't validhunt that. The shift ended in a bloodbath as the wizard and its apprentices (including some formerly validhunted antags in apprentice form) laid waste to the station while the nukies carefully avoided them so they could arm the nuke.

I've promoted players to Centcom officials when sec has fucked with them IC and tasked them with investigating corruption of the shitsec that just arrested them.

Which is to say that this was based.

From my understanding of the discussion around it, there's a genuine chance Isratosh could have been noting or banning people over some of their shittery but instead made an SS13 moment out of it.

Admins can make SS13 moments happen. There's nothing complaint worthy here in that, unless there's more to your complaint than that?

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:14 pm**

I took these actions because I was summoned on to the server by an urgent adminhelp at 4 o'clock in the morning asking me to look into a long and dumb conflict between Turbo Junior and the AI (you), captain, and head of security. I was not privy to the beginning or middle of this conflict and investigating it would have taken more time and effort from me and these 4 players than the stupid situation was worth. From what I could gather from my look at the logs, Turbo Junior was being essentially bullied (or trolled as you put it) by you, the captain, and the head of security with varying levels of involvement. You took his pants off and nicked his PDA, and the captain actively prevented you from following Junior's orders to return it by giving conflicting ones. This incident sparked Junior to say some mean words to you over the radio, for which the head of security arrested him and tossed him into the brig for 3 minutes. When this timer hit 30 seconds, you upped it to 3 minutes again. When he was eventually released, the head of security refused to return his belt for some reason. At this point I just felt bad for the guy and spawned him a new one to get this shit over with, he didn't ask me to do it. The HoS continued to be an ass by taking the first one, and then stunning and almost handcuffing him again for having the second one. Yes, this spawning action was silly and I could have just left it.

I logged off at this point. Junior here cut a few cameras in my absence, I'm sure just to spite you. He was then chased down by the head of security, arrested, stripped of all his belongings, and put into a straitjacket to be carted off to the escape wing for the incoming emergency shuttle. This generated another urgent adminhelp that I logged on again to answer. At this point, the shuttle was on its way, and it was clear to me that Junior was being abused by security and the AI bored of the greenshift. I asked Junior if he would feel satisfied if I turned him into a lone operative to get revenge, he happily agreed, and he handily took down the armed warden, HoS, and captain all at once. I reserve the right to handle these situations as I see fit, and I'm sure this was somewhat preferable to me sending an admin PM to every involved member and delaying the round. You and security had your fun by jerking around an assistant all shift, he got his fun by filling them full of lead, and I got my fun by watching it happen.

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:28 pm**

hmm fair, may close

though my issue was with this absolute garbage spewing assistant shithead getting good treatment after saying all that

Posted: **Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:45 pm**

I think the classic closing response here is:
Even if you have nothing that could be upheld on complaint, feedback is still feedback as long as it's phrased constructively.

We always invite players in complaints like this to instead consider posting some useful feedback on the admin's feedback page detailing your experiences and what you felt went right/wrong from your perspective etc.

Isratosh's is available viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6324 here

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:28 pm**

this seems to be handled too

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