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Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:18 pm
by NamelessFairy
Very simply I don't see a reason why singulo control is disabled in cofig anymore as our standards for admins have improved. Any admin who possesses a singulo will either have a good reason for it or wont be an admin much longer.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:22 pm
by Striders13
I thought this was an old meme that's no longer relevant, what the hell.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:04 pm
by CPTANT
Did you try to possess the singulo and kill all the players? Dumbledore asked calmly.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:37 pm
by BeeSting12
I'm almost certain there's a hacky way to get around singulo posession restriction anyway, possibly buildmode throw or something? If an admin wants to abuse their powers, this is possibly the most obvious way to go about it.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:02 pm
by Pandarsenic
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:37 pm
I'm almost certain there's a hacky way to get around singulo posession restriction anyway, possibly buildmode throw or something? If an admin wants to abuse their powers, this is possibly the most obvious way to go about it.
There is, and this is it, though unlike Singulo possession you can't use it to prevent catastrophe, only cause it.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:07 pm
by Timberpoes
There are thousands of ways to ruin shifts.
Spookuni once accidentally mass var edited the air contents of every single container on the station to the point every machine and canister on the station exploded. This was the explosion map for the shift:
I'd say that's about as much damage as any singulo could do.
Flick the button and free possessed singulos.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:19 pm
by CMDR_Gungnir
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:07 pm
There are thousands of ways to ruin shifts.
Spookuni once accidentally mass var edited the air contents of every single container on the station to the point every machine and canister on the station exploded. This was the explosion map for the shift:
I'd say that's about as much damage as any singulo could do.
Flick the button and free possessed singulos.
God bless Explodes-the-Station
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:31 pm
by Armhulen
CONTROVERSIAL: shouldn't be a config option in the first place
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:19 pm
by Misdoubtful
Armhulen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:31 pm
CONTROVERSIAL: shouldn't be a config option in the first place
Yeeeeeeeeeeeep, this.
It wouldn't provide an impact at this point whether it was or wasn't forbidden at this point.
Unless there is something I'm missing?
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:16 pm
by WineAllWine
Yeah I've always found this to be weird; there's a million ways I could use my admin powers to ruin a shift, why is this specific one blocked?
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:10 am
by WineAllWine
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:22 am
by ABearInTheWoods
It is intentional that this config is not protected from admins editing it by vving the config controller. (somebody some time long ago re-protected it. I just removed that)
Rule 0 allows admins to do so and face the consequences.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/73695
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:30 am
by Vekter
I recall this being forbidden as it causes an absolutely hilarious amount of lag, not due to it having the potential to completely fuck the round.
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:04 pm
by Stickymayhem
in ancient history this was restricted because there was a way to possess something without logs
Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:59 pm
by kieth4
As all the reasons for it being disabled are rather ancient, we'll have a look at re-enabling this.