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How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:21 pm
by ThisIsOurLifeNow
So someone died (as usual) they bring him to medical. Before revival i fix his brute & burn damage easy with surgery but he has 100 Toxin & 100 Oxy(Respiratory) damage.

How do i fix toxin & respiratory damage in a dead patient before revival? He doesn't have any chemicals in him i filtered that all out using blood filter surgery but his toxin didn't improve. Due to decay his toxin reached 100 i think so i have no idea how to fix that

Thoughts?

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:24 pm
by ekaterina
When all else fails, brain transplant.

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:39 pm
by cedarbridge
ThisIsOurLifeNow wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:21 pm So someone died (as usual) they bring him to medical. Before revival i fix his brute & burn damage easy with surgery but he has 100 Toxin & 100 Oxy(Respiratory) damage.

How do i fix toxin & respiratory damage in a dead patient before revival? He doesn't have any chemicals in him i filtered that all out using blood filter surgery but his toxin didn't improve. Due to decay his toxin reached 100 i think so i have no idea how to fix that

Thoughts?
Replace the lungs and liver. Fully expect that the rest of the organs are probably shot too.

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:51 pm
by ThisIsOurLifeNow
But the lungs and liver don't work in a dead body. I did replace them with cybernetic organs but it didn't help.

In fact I replaced all organs before attempting revival but his stats remained the same. Only his organ damage stats were cleared but his toxicity and oxy damage remained

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:34 pm
by iain0
Suffocation and toxin damage dont need to be cured before revival - if you're using a chest defib rather than "head revival surgery" their damage should be normalised to total 150 upon revival after which you can administer anti toxin/suffocation stuff (multiver or syriniver generally for toxin, convermol or CPR typically for suffocation. unless you're rolling your own meds then seiver and salbutamol are reasonable to create).

That they got back to 200 damage (death) suggests they either got more toxin (check for burns, chem contents in blood/stomach, non-functional organs, or maybe a starving/overfed ethereal) or perhaps more likely revived at 100 toxin 50 suffocation and just suffocated out from being in crit. Hard to say without seeing it play out.

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:52 pm
by ThisIsOurLifeNow
From the code if the patient has -100 health or less then he can't be revived. The defib says ...They convulsed for a bit then cease so I have to remove the toxin and oxy damage so the health improves a little bit for revival to work
You can test this out in your local server actually just give a monkey 100 toxin damage and after it dies try revival you will get the same message

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:14 pm
by iain0
I don't think you're reading the code right.

Just gave a monkey 200 toxin and 200 suffocation damage (400 total), its very much dead, defib it, comes out 75 suffocation 75 toxin (normalised to total 150 as I earlier described).

100 damage isn't fatal either so even a head revival should work. (note -100 is probably 200 damage)

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:01 pm
by Cobby
assuming nothing else but damage, it only cares about brute/burn. It will update the health to be relative to half-crit (L629-632).

Now you might be trolled via existing chems in the blood/stomach that you need to pump out *while they are dead* if you dont have the meds to remove AND counter the poisons.

O2 you just btfo with salbutamol and/or atropine/epi. If they are getting out of that then they have poison or bloodloss.

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:21 pm
by cedarbridge
People underestimate using epi to keep a revival stabilized.

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:36 pm
by Cobby
its broken considering you can stack it with atropine and easily accessible.

Only problem is when you use the pens you use the utility associated (formaldehyde aka no organ damage).

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:20 pm
by Hoolny
Oxy damage comes if you revive people under the optimal amount which is below 180 brute and 180 burn when you can revive someone do it unless they have bad chems in them filter their blood if it’s to much

Healing toxin is depending on 2 factors what kind of chems do they have in them and how severe it is most of the time giving some multiver will do for special things like ling cryo sting give them some coffee and they will be fine

Re: How to cure Toxin & Oxy damage in a dead body before revival

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:55 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
you can also reduce toxin damage by stomach pumping someone and making their dead body puke 100 times