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[chesify] empressmaia note appeal
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:31 pm
by EmpressMaia
BYOND account: EmpressMaia
Character name: Maia Roentgen
Ban type: Note
Ban reason:As a non-antag shaft miner, allegedly accidentally brough bubblegum up from lavaland onto the station.
Time ban was placed: 2:30 7/16/22
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed: 186754
Your side of the story: i went down to lavaland to mine and saw bubble gum right outside the mining base, i starred at him for a second and took a screenshot before he noticed me and starting smashing some walls, i went back station side and then went back down trying to take him away from the base, he eventually smacked me and got on the shuttle with me and got station side, a few minutes later the HoS get him back
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Why you think you should be unbanned: I think this note should be removed because it was an accident that didnt impact the round at all
Re: [chesify] empressmaia note appeal
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:43 pm
by Vekter
As a reminder, as it is extremely pertinent here:
Note appeals:
Notes are remarks about players added to player's files in order to help keep track of player behavior, trends, as well as admin interactions with players. Notes have many uses and are not exclusively used to record rule breaking behavior, but we do recognize that their existence can seem like a black mark on the player.
For those reasons, notes can be appealed if they match one of the following two cases:
The note is factually or materially incorrect.
There must be a difference between how an admin who knew all the facts would view you vs how an admin who only had the note to go on would view you. If you were being a shit but the note didn't correctly detail exactly how you were being a shit, an appeal nitpicking this detail is unlikely to be granted.
Statements that are clearly pure opinion on the admins part can not be incorrect (because that is what the admin actually believes), but may be appealed under case 2 below.
Appealed bans are only factually incorrect if the conditions around ban itself was incorrect. Getting unbanned because you apologized or similar reasons is not grounds to have the auto-generated note about the ban removed. Likewise: getting unbanned because you broke the rules but the admin or a headmin later determined that a ban was "too much" is not grounds to remove the ban's note.
Notes appealed under this rule may be amended rather than removed.
Notes appealed under this rule will generally be more successful if appealing players offers suggested rewording that they feel properly accounts for nuances without minimizing what the note is trying to highlight. Understand that we have to balance keeping notes short and succinct with accurately reflecting the situation.
The note's contents or existence is unjustifiably harsh to the player's standing in the eyes of admins reading the notes.
Notes that contain admin opinions that unfairly paint the player in a bad light are one example.
Emphasis on the phrase "unfairly". If you're repeatedly a shitter and an admin calls you a shitter in a note just take the hint and improve on not being a shitter
Re: [chesify] empressmaia note appeal
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:52 pm
by Vekter
I spoke to Cheshify on Discord and they said that this will not be overturned. The note is factually correct and needs no modifications. You are welcome to request a headmin review but it is very unlikely that they would overturn this given that it doesn't fit any circumstance where we normally would.
