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Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by Mice World
quick post before I sleep sorry if it's rushed.

I've been playing ai low pop lately and I'm sick of getting traitor and being forced to be human. I've not had one malf round or seen one in a very long time, can it even happen right now? I would look around more for info but I hate looking for ss13 shit so I thought I'd ask here.

any info would be great. Thankyouthankyou.

I put this in offtopic cause it's low effort and I'm expecting a single reply answer

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
I want to say no since I heard some mutterings about dynamic not counting malf AI as a "traitor" ruleset even though it's listed with em, ask mothblocks on the discord though

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:32 pm
by Tlaltecuhtli
yes

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:51 pm
by Mice World
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:I want to say no since I heard some mutterings about dynamic not counting malf AI as a "traitor" ruleset even though it's listed with em, ask mothblocks on the discord though
The thought of making a new discord account makes me want to vomit so I'll just hope they post here. A little offtopic but I just really wish the game would do job > traitor, not, traitor > job as I am so sick of playing stock traitor/ling. Currently it even bypasses "return to lobby if preferences are unavailable

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:54 pm
by Mothblocks
i asked mothblocks on discord they said the answer is PROBABLY not

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:28 am
by BlueMemesauce
a

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:13 am
by Fishimun
Jaredfogle wrote:i asked mothblocks on discord they said the answer is PROBABLY not
tell me who mothblocks is if you want to live

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:34 am
by Mothblocks
she a dumb #####################

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:37 am
by Mice World
Thank you for your answers people. After looking at the github pr I noticed it had the HIGH_IMPACT_RULESET flag. Is this the reason I've not gotten it on low pop (20 - 30 people)? Or am I just unlucky? For reference I've played eight rounds of AI, most of these rounds went for 2- 3 hours. Yet between those I've been traitor three times and changeling once. I'm assuming you guys have a design document for dynamic?

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:30 am
by Mothblocks
A HIGH_IMPACT_RULESET will never roll if another high impact ruleset rolls, unless threat level is above 90

There's no doc on design other than 2021's improvements, I inherited the system and made it better, and you can see details on the variables in this doc I half wrote here: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... /readme.md

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:09 pm
by Tegun
Malf job selection was completely broken for a month and before that it rolled two AIs, one normal and one malf. Judging by looking at rounds on scrubby malf is now correctly happening but it is very rare compared to other high impact rules, even wizard seems far more likely.

Re: Do you still need traitor on to get malf AI?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:08 pm
by technokek