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[Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 6:25 pm
by morhilo
BYOND account: Morhilo
Character name: Giselle Rowley
Ban type: Permanent
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (Morhilo) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is: As a non-antagonist, took part in a lynch mob that killed a player because they were a felinid. When questioned about this in the ticket, they stated "felinid linch round" and "it was funny". Considering your history and the repeated incidents you've caused on the server, I have escalated this ban to a permanent one. You were on thin ice after being caught for multi-keying twice, and your begaviour has barely improved since then. You have shown nothing but a disregard for the rules since you first started playing here, and as such I will ask you to come back with a voucher from another server if you want this ban to be lifted. This ban (BanID #54713) was applied by Cimika on 2021-05-19 19:05:28 during round ID 162552. This is a permanent ban.
Time ban was placed: 2021-05-19 19:05:28
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: BanID #54713
Your side of the story: Hi, I got banned afew days ago by the admin Cimika because I killed a felinid player. Okay I know I killed a felinid and that is not ok, but firstly, the felinid got revived like a minute after, secondly only I got a permament ban and she wants a voucher from other servers to prove I act in good faith. I'm not sure about what I did that was so incriminating so as to lead to a perm ban, and I wasnt there alone I was with 3 other players. The admin mentioned a history of doing dumb shit. WHAT IS THAT HISTORY? I got banned like on my 3rd game ever because I multi accounted and I got 7 days for it, my second ban was like 2 months, lasted 5 days because I broke rule 8. Yes, I know I am a dumbass but in the end I really hope you can tell that was harmless fun. My other bans were simply for netspeak. I wasnt very fond of the rules. I killed that felind because I was very annoyed at the admins who spawned in spinning felinid photos and did dumb shit regarding felinids. WE (I was not alone) spawned and made bats and started hunting felinds. When we killed a felinid (allowing her to be taken back to medbay peacefully and to be revived) they immediately bitched to an admin and got a (very much felinid supportive) admin to punish us. I don't know what punishments the other people received, but looking at the permanent ban logs I see none related to this incident other than mine, even though several other people were involved. Any other admin would, I reckon, ban me for a much less permanent period of time. I don't even think I killed her, I think it was another played called Braeden kuster. I only took part in the linch mob and was punished the worst for it instead of the person who attacked first and killed her. I dont even want to be unbanned at this point if another admin decides that I should be banned but I want to speak to another admin taht is no biased towards felinids. If they tell me that I should stay banned then I will and will meet the requirements for my unbanning which involve getting a voucher from anothers servers administration that proves that I am acting in good faith.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I believe that my ban was unfair due to being confronted with an admin that is obviously biased towards felinids. I also was not the one to kill the felinid as far as my memory can recall and I think that the ban was unjust. Admin also claim that I have a history of doing dumb shit but I never did that much stuffs, also I did not multiaccount twice only once.
References of good conduct: None for now but I wante to start playing on beestation or goonstation.
Anything else we should know: No not really

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 6:28 pm
by Cimika
Hey, please edit your appeal to follow the proper appeal template.

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[b]BYOND account:[/b] BYOND account
[b]Character name:[/b] Character name at time of ban
[b]Ban type:[/b] Server/Role[s]/OOC/etc
[b]Ban length:[/b] Permanent, 5 days, etc
[b]Ban reason:[/b] Copy this from the server. If this is a server ban, attempt to connect. If it is not a server ban, view your notes with "View Admin Remarks" button under OOC tab in-game. An image is suitable, but do **not** paraphrase or otherwise modify the reason.
[b]Time ban was placed:[/b] Try to get this from the server when you get the ban reason. If it was a note, the note has a timestamp. If it was a server ban, it will also have a timestamp. Both of these times are in UTC.
[b]Server you were playing on when banned:[/b] Server name, eg, Bagil/Sybil/Terry/Event Hall
[b]Round ID in which ban was placed:[/b] Round ID, should be present in ban reason from server. Can be excluded if it cannot be found. Example: 101235
[b]Your side of the story:[/b] Explain what happened in your own words.
[b]Why you think you should be unbanned:[/b] Why should you get this opportunity to return, what value do you bring back to the community? Was your ban unfair? Justify it.
[b]References of good conduct:[/b] If serverbanned and **especially** if permabanned, have you played on other servers during the time you were banned? Name them here, in many cases good references of conduct and character can be crucial to a successful appeal. Otherwise, feel free to remove this portion.
[b]Anything else we should know:[/b] If you have anything else you feel is relevant to your appeal, include it here. For example, if you have recently been banned from another server, or have had issues in other communities, it may be a preferable to be transparent and address that here, rather than them being brought up during the appeal process. If this section does not apply to you, feel free to remove it.

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:00 pm
by morhilo
Edited

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:06 pm
by Cimika
You appear to still be missing a bunch of the template, notably everything after the ban date.

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:21 pm
by morhilo
Sorry I edited

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:59 pm
by Cimika
Thanks for appealing.

First, I would like to re-center the issues that led to your ban. You took part, as a non-antagonist, in a group of players that aimed to lynch other players based on the race of their characters. Here are the logs from the kill, snipped to only include infomations relative to you or the victim.

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[2021-05-19 18:42:03.549] SAY: Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) "not here anymore" (Law Office (122,151,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:28.127] ATTACK: Bucovineanu/(Bazzer Dan De Lion) has shoved Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Command Hallway (114,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:29.140] ATTACK: Bucovineanu/(Bazzer Dan De Lion) has kicks Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100)  (Command Hallway (114,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:29.140] ATTACK: Bucovineanu/(Bazzer Dan De Lion) has shoved Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) (NEWHP: 100)  (Command Hallway (114,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:30.330] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 90)  (Command Hallway (113,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:31.073] ATTACK: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 80)  (Command Hallway (111,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:31.357] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 62.5)  (Command Hallway (112,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:32.285] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 52.5)  (Command Hallway (110,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:33.760] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 42.5)  (Command Hallway (108,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:34.986] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 32.5)  (Command Hallway (105,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:36.855] ATTACK: Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) has shoved Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Command Hallway (96,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:37.915] ATTACK: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 22.5)  (Command Hallway (95,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:37.918] ATTACK: Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) has suffered: Hairline Fracture to right leg | Damage: 20 (rolled 57/66.2891) | WB: 10 (Command Hallway (95,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:39.509] ATTACK: Bucovineanu/(Bazzer Dan De Lion) has shoved Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 7.5)  (Command Hallway (95,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:39.867] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has kicked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) (NEWHP: 0)  (Command Hallway (95,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:42.849] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -9.7)  (Command Hallway (95,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:43.997] ATTACK: Bucovineanu/(Bazzer Dan De Lion) has shoved Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) (NEWHP: -9.7)  (Command Hallway (95,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:44.185] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -19.7)  (Command Hallway (94,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:45.372] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -29.6)  (Command Hallway (91,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:46.860] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -39.6)  (Command Hallway (91,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:47.879] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -49.4)  (Command Hallway (90,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:48.005] ATTACK: Darklordrus/(Wesley Isaman) has grabbed Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) passive grab (NEWHP: -49.4)  (Central Primary Hallway (89,125,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:50.020] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -59.2)  (Central Primary Hallway (89,125,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:50.941] ATTACK: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -69.2)  (Central Primary Hallway (87,123,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:52.323] ATTACK: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -79.2)  (Central Primary Hallway (87,125,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:52.482] GAME: Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) received epinephrine medipen in the mail (/obj/item/reagent_containers/hypospray/medipen) (Central Primary Hallway (87,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:52.585] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -86.7)  (Central Primary Hallway (88,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:55.210] EMOTE: Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless... (Central Primary Hallway (87,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:55.215] ATTACK: Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) has died (BRUTE: 216.3, BURN: 0, TOX: 0, OXY: 0.666667, CLONE: 0) (Central Primary Hallway (87,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:55.225] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -107.3)  (Central Primary Hallway (88,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:56.223] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -117.3)  (Library (86,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:42:58.056] ATTACK: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley) has attacked Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) with baseball bat (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -127.3)  (Library (85,126,2))
[2021-05-19 18:43:01.337] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has grabbed Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) passive grab (NEWHP: -127.3)  (Library (84,127,2))
[2021-05-19 18:43:02.490] ATTACK: Xamiux/(Braeden Kuster) has grabbed Riggle/(Kadence Kelley) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -127.3)  (Library (84,127,2))
With this, we can clearly see that you indeed murdered someone for no other reason than "They were a felinid and we decided to lynch felinids" as a non-antagonist.

Now, the reason why I chose to escalate this to a permaban was due to your history. Specifically a part that you chose to downplay in your appeal, being that after getting banned for multi-keying, you proceeded to multikey again, which I confronted you for. Ever since that incident, which demonstrated that you didn't care much for the rules, you were on very thin ice. I could have perma-banned you for the second time, I chose to let you off the hook and watch you to see if you would make an effort to act in good faith. As it stands, killing someone for no reasons and stating in the ticket that you had no reason to do it, as well as stating "felinid lynch round", is not a display of good faith. Add on top of that your numerous OOC in IC incidents and the pretty egregious rule 8 break that you were previously banned for, and I stand by my decision to apply a permanent ban.

Your appeal is denied, and I will ask you to come back in a minimum of six months with a voucher from another respectable server. As always the head admins are free to overrule this as they see fit.

As for your claims of bias in favour of felinids, they are not relevant to the appeal as the issue would have been the same no matter the race of players you chose to target for your lynching. If you believe I have displayed a bias in favour of a group of player due to the race of their characters, feel free to open a complaint.

EDIT : After consideration, I've edited the minimum time before the next appeal.

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:42 pm
by morhilo
Wait I never was banned twice for multikeying

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 11:57 pm
by Cimika
You got banned once and I caught you doing it again, and we had a conversation about it. That's the incident I'm talking about.

Re: [Cimika] Morhilo - perma ban appeal

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 10:24 pm
by Jimmius
The note and appeal for this ban both make it clear this is a rule 0 ban. As such, it is not the incident itself that is worthy of a perma (though murdering someone FNR is bad), but that your behaviour on the server is something we're better off without.
Specifically, you were caught multikeying during an ongoing round on two seperate occasions.
Banned from the server for 7 days - Multikeying on account "morhilobittenfurry" after being killed on this account by a traitor, I have explained the consequences of this if he does it again
has been caught multikeying once more due to, as they claimed, a bug when they used this account. I have chosen to be nice and not permaban them on the spot for this, but I have clearly told them that if they ever log in the same shift with two accounts again, they will be permabanned.
Either one of these incidents would have been grounds for a perma, as we have a zero tolerance policy for this kind of thing. The fact that you were allowed to play here after that is very generous, but it means ultimately that we're expecting you to shape up or get shown the door. Your conduct during the ticket shows a complete disregard for our rules, which is the wrong attitude to have if you've been allowed to keep playing here after being caught multikeying twice.
[2021-05-19 18:46:19.955] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Cimika/(Sophia Saphire)->Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley): Hey, what happened between you and Kadence Kelley ?
[2021-05-19 18:46:29.195] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): me?
[2021-05-19 18:46:57.081] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): fellind# linch round
[2021-05-19 18:47:09.344] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Cimika/(Sophia Saphire)->Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley): No other reasons ?
[2021-05-19 18:47:22.362] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): not really
[2021-05-19 18:49:18.225] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): it was funny
[2021-05-19 19:04:12.512] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Cimika/(Sophia Saphire)->Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley): Alright. Considering your history on the server and the constant issue you've been creating, I do not think I can trust you to respect the rules. As such I will be banning you permanently. I recommend coming back with a voucher from another server if you want to appeal this.
[2021-05-19 19:05:00.127] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): the fuck
[2021-05-19 19:06:55.664] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): bruh do not that cmon man
[2021-05-19 19:08:08.358] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Morhilo/(Giselle Rowley)->Cimika/(Sophia Saphire): bruh we didnt burned his body down we just killed him or whatever he got rivived CMON
As such, the ban will be upheld.

Headmin Votes:
Coconutwarrior97: Uphold.
Jimmius: Uphold.
Naloac: Uphold.