/tg/Station 13

How would you make a species that is a strong brute physically that changes gameplay in a fun and meaningful way while keeping them balanced?

I'm shit at balance but I'd start with hulk fingers and slower healing.

Also I know that I'm gonna get some hatemail by saying this but I think a true brute species should be locked out of assistant as assistants do not interact with station equipment enough, i wouldn't want it to be a "greytide" race by bypassing all the downsides by just smashing up hopline you get me

Slower xd

wesoda25 wrote:Slower xd

You fuck

Double stun/knockdown duration (too clumsy to get up fast)

I would not trust the community with a race that can do any apecific job better than others, see: people only playing plasmaman as engineer to weaponize radiation

and they have to eat a lot more

like 5 times more

Can't fit through doors has to use the wall

Benefits:
Higher punch damage (not as good as hulk but better than human)
Can use their hands as a crowbar
More likely to cause wounds
Harder to escape grab

Drawbacks:
Longer knockdowns/stuns
Same weapon restrictions as hulk
Can only eat meat

Other:
Unique Interaction with hulk mutation

I feel like it could use some other benefit on top of that because the hulk weapon restriction is really bad but who knows.

Golems?

NecromancerAnne wrote:Golems?

What about them?

The idea of having like one brute on the security force as an asset you can deploy sounds fun

if they get pushed down/slip they need 3x more time to go up

Less intelligent/can’t interact with machines
TWO BACK SLOTS (Or dual wielding duffel-bag ability)(or if we ever make objects have weight and give you slowdown, they can carry more easier)
Can speak with snakes (snake language genome)
Less pushed around by gravity stuff
Have to wear xxl jumpsuits or they tear them
Blubber reserves so resistant to cold
Can eat monkeys
Can possibly have duplicate organs
Fatal cheese allergies (bc snake genome)
If gibbed they spread way more stuff around
Super fast metab rates like people suggested will be fun
Lots of blood
Is neanderthal
Reagents having less effect, takes more sedative to drop a bear than a bunny

I'd make them Space Cyclops they'd be harder to shove out of the way like disarm will make them stumble and not be able to move a second but you gotta hit them with it multiple times to push them back but if you knock them down they're slower to get up and they take double eye damage from blinding stuff and also they have bad depth perception so their throwing and shooting has more drift by default. Also they slow down less with heavy stuff like duffel bags and riot armor.

Put them in riot suits and give them shields and let them bap grey shirtd

Ooh we adding ogryns?

Super Aggro Crag wrote:I'd make them Space Cyclops they'd be harder to shove out of the way like disarm will make them stumble and not be able to move a second but you gotta hit them with it multiple times to push them back but if you knock them down they're slower to get up and they take double eye damage from blinding stuff and also they have bad depth perception so their throwing and shooting has more drift by default. Also they slow down less with heavy stuff like duffel bags and riot armor.

Put them in riot suits and give them shields and let them bap grey shirtd

riot armor doesn't have slowdown anymore boomer

SkeletalElite wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:I'd make them Space Cyclops they'd be harder to shove out of the way like disarm will make them stumble and not be able to move a second but you gotta hit them with it multiple times to push them back but if you knock them down they're slower to get up and they take double eye damage from blinding stuff and also they have bad depth perception so their throwing and shooting has more drift by default. Also they slow down less with heavy stuff like duffel bags and riot armor.

Put them in riot suits and give them shields and let them bap grey shirtd

riot armor doesn't have slowdown anymore boomer

Im usually the one rioting these days

Gray lives matter

Armhulen wrote:

NecromancerAnne wrote:Golems?

What about them?

They are to me the quintessential 'brute'. Slow, lumbering, but strong and easily able to overwhelm an opponent. I just don't see how you can improve upon that.

Crab people. They get natural space protection and one big arm that can bash down doors. The downside? No helmet slot, no gloves, their exosuit slot can't hold anything larger than an armor vest, and they only get one free hand.

NecromancerAnne wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

NecromancerAnne wrote:Golems?

What about them?

They are to me the quintessential 'brute'. Slow, lumbering, but strong and easily able to overwhelm an opponent. I just don't see how you can improve upon that.

Yeah, but they have factors that would make them bad roundstarts.

You joke but making them slow is really probably the way to go if you want a simple solution. Being able to do things quickly makes or breaks you in this game, from moving to fighting. If you make a good fighter who can win faster, they should have to make up for it in their movement speed.

+1 to any result on a fist damage roll
slightly less damage from pressure and fire

Slower action timer on things requiring dexterity (like sutures and such)
cant wear gloves because they have big meaty claws fingers and nanotrasen doesn't make XXXXXL gloves just yet

While prone, still dense.
Can't crawl under things.
Can grab and throw a mob at 'passive' grip.
Gets hungry more quickly.
Slows down in 1-tile-wide gaps (dunno if this is possible)
Armor is less effective, or requires special modification to be effective.


Just a few ideas.

Is capable of pulling up a big rock where it stands and throwing it at you but its hitbox is bigger so it's easier to hit with a Molotov than common infected. Also it causes the ground to shake when it moves which throws your aim off.

cacogen wrote:Is capable of pulling up a big rock where it stands and throwing it at you but its hitbox is bigger so it's easier to hit with a Molotov than common infected. Also it causes the ground to shake when it moves which throws your aim off.

Wrong thread, the left 4 dead 2 thread is up there, above Off Topic, in Video Games