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how do you feel about people that play the same character every round?
do you feel most of your experiences with these people have been positive or do you feel they have been negative?

i believe that specially in mrp servers like manuel it might influence your perception and relationship with those characters in a meta way
and depending on the character it may get kinda annoying to hear the same stuff and same story over and over again

also fuck jack anton

statics are no different to random character players, some statics are just more memorable than others.

I know i'm always gonna be grouchy and salty about it buuut

Yet another round, Hanna Tireman, Mike Murdock, Brick Carr, all assistants, immediately fucking with security trying to fight people. Metafriends are annoying but whatever i'm over it it's really just an attribution to the fact that player vs player conflict is the best part of the game and the rest of the game falls flat, so starting conflict is fun no matter how reasonable it is

Making friends and foes you recognize will enrich your experience far more than treating every round as a competition in a vacuum

It does become a problem when it's repeatedly used to get an edge over others or overtakes the normal flow of the round, even with behaviors that aren't necessarily against the rules (i.e. friends helping each other regardless of antagonist status, giving special treatment to your friends over others)

Mickyan wrote:Making friends and foes you recognize will enrich your experience far more than treating every round as a competition in a vacuum

(giving special treatment to your friends over others)

this is the issue when the assistants are trying to fuck with security and arresting one means fighting the entire group, and they're then going to have a reason to fight security for the rest of the round

AGAIN IT'S A ME PROBLEM

i'm zachary chester, the amazing static-naming cat

remanseptim wrote:i'm zachary chester, the amazing static-naming cat

Still not amazing, still forced. It's as bad as when Janice Lean tried to put 'foxy' in the middle of their name.

Armhulen wrote:AGAIN IT'S A ME PROBLEM

I don't think it's a you problem, I always found it very frustrating that most admins will demand such high standards from security but assistants can get away with greytiding in groups on a daily basis

I would hazard a guess that's part of the reason why barely anyone wants to play security and half the server mains assistant

You're free to slug the tide if it proves to be violent.

Statics just tell me that someones robust, and gives me more of a bond with said player

Except all those that change the last name of my static. They should not do that.

If you have ever static named even just for two rounds I hate you and hope you get hit by a garbage truck

Armhulen wrote:I know i'm always gonna be grouchy and salty about it buuut

Yet another round, Hanna Tireman, Mike Murdock, Brick Carr, all assistants, immediately fucking with security trying to fight people. Metafriends are annoying but whatever i'm over it it's really just an attribution to the fact that player vs player conflict is the best part of the game and the rest of the game falls flat, so starting conflict is fun no matter how reasonable it is

wow i dont get recognized i see how it is

Mickyan wrote:

Armhulen wrote:AGAIN IT'S A ME PROBLEM

I don't think it's a you problem, I always found it very frustrating that most admins will demand such high standards from security but assistants can get away with greytiding in groups on a daily basis

I would hazard a guess that's part of the reason why barely anyone wants to play security and half the server mains assistant

as a player who plays security a lot i would say that the admins don't really go through all your actions as security with a fine-toothed comb; i feel we are (appropriately) given quite a bit of leeway when it comes to dealing with greytides and other related dummies

though this could just be the result of my playstyle, and my personal experiences.

best wishes,
bobbah

rock steel is eternal

Mickyan wrote:Making friends and foes you recognize will enrich your experience far more than treating every round as a competition in a vacuum

I've almost never seen someone start a rivalry with another player that didn't involve one of them waiting for the day the other is permabanned.

I almost wanted to say I had one with eileen "moron" voron but then I remembered the reason we hate each other is for a conflict we had when I was playing a different character, I thought what she did was wrong on an ooc level in that round, and that when I considered the idea of us hating each other could be a fun thing she got personally insulted by THAT too.

Still remember years back when people thought the ligger gang were all on metacomms because they hung out at the same spot every round. Also because they'd find each other in lockers, but when you play the same map for 4+ years, you know where to look for bodies.

Jayson Gibson. You have an actual, literal fucking dent in your skull. I was on station for literally one minute, and just got into my office (HoP) before you came in and arrested me for being in the HoP office. I asked you to check the manifest, but you decided we should stand there for ten minutes before you left me naked and handcuffed in a hallway that had no air. You have no business playing a head role, because you have genuine, real-life brain damage, you unbelievable retard.

I like having friends. Community is my main reason of playing this game.

I have played the same character since 2011

what, a ghost?

no a cunt

I considered that possibility can we compromise and say cunt ghost

On the opposite end there are some people who randomname but it's unclear why, because they clearly enjoy being able to recognize people from previous rounds. Met this fella who had a static appearance but changed his name between shifts and it was always a bit odd when he'd wave to me like I was supposed to recognize him (which I did OOCly, but refrained from doing ICly).

arm you best not be talking about the actual rp filled purple gang takeover, trying to paint it as "just assistants fucking with sec ecks dee" because you know damn well that wasnt just tiding and trying to fight people

Space Panda wrote:how do you feel about people that play the same character every round?
do you feel most of your experiences with these people have been positive or do you feel they have been negative?

i believe that specially in mrp servers like manuel it might influence your perception and relationship with those characters in a meta way
and depending on the character it may get kinda annoying to hear the same stuff and same story over and over again

also fuck jack anton

Who the fuck actually are you, you uncanny bastard.

TWATICUS wrote:arm you best not be talking about the actual rp filled purple gang takeover, trying to paint it as "just assistants fucking with sec ecks dee" because you know damn well that wasnt just tiding and trying to fight people

the fact that you think it was that round and not the round before or after that round demonstrates my point perfectly

if you're trying to fight against Hanna Tireman, Mike Murdock, or Brick Carr, you might be doing things wrong.

why would it be about the round before or after? the round after every person you mentioned was part of a team antag so it would be really dumb on your part to try and use that as an example. the round before, one(1) person you mentioned was an assistant. infact, mike was a fucking sec officer for that round. and the round before that? mike wasnt even playing. you are absolutely referring to the round i mentioned before.

dont get me wrong, i agree with the problem of the 'fucking with sec as assistant' trend since ive done a shitload of it over the years. but ill be damned if you take this round which involved a makeshift purple gang, random crew members offering to be our hostages, hop and sec(y'know the ones you said we were just fucking with) delivering us donuts, and disregard all the RP inbetween and fun had on both sides just so you can strip it down to have a vague example to go along with your salt post. if you want to namedrop me and complain about how i play, then do it about a round thats actually worth complaining about because im sure theres been plenty.

ok sorry if my post sounds too angry lov u arm
please take this photo of cat and frog(its us)

well your really big frogge cat picture was cute so i'm gonna stop wasting time on my post trying to prove that consistently a swarm of people in assorted colors with no job attack security before the 10 minute mark

also from the round the hos mike arrested you, this is hilarious
[2020-07-03 05:56:27.422] SAY: 05:56:27.422] SAY: Twaticus/(Hanna Tireman) "wow i forgot how insufferable you can be mike" (Brig (200,133,2))

All my homies hate youtubers or players with a red panda as their avatar

yo this is some good shit

British youtuber wrote:All my homies hate youtubers

?

i don't know why i'd care unless that character is a cunt

Space Panda wrote:how do you feel about people that play the same character every round?
do you feel most of your experiences with these people have been positive or do you feel they have been negative?

Usually positive, I don’t notice people unless I’ve seen them repeatedly. I am one of those static characters, why? Because I like making friends. Eventually you can team up and shit on lavaland to fight megafauna. You can’t just do that with a stranger.

I thought about it a bit and static naming isn't inherently bad, but people can (and do) make it so. Space friends is great and all until you have the same group of people hooking up every round doing the same thing - this goes for shitters tiding, "cutesy" players sitting in the bar or whatever, so on and so forth. I think in a sense it goes against the nature of the game - what with paranoia and all - but no one would play if you couldn't static name. If anything, I greatly prefer players with numerous static characters with certain gimmicks and personalities than those who mesh whatever they want into one character. I say this with a certain amount hypocrisy having played so much time on one character (and many of the above grievances applying to me), but then I barely do such things anymore, and enjoyed myself with other characters, so maybe I'm in a position to speak a little.

I basically do what wesoda just said. Rotate characters and roles and keep them vaguely the same consistency unless I forget which character I picked. Hell, one of them I adamantly wish I didn't have to ever play antag on since he is explicitly a character I play as a staunch good fella. Unfortunately dynamic has other ideas and there aren't always admins.

The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

confused rock wrote:The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

you are not forced to use a randomized name when playing as an antag

nobody should be allowed to do it

That is considered metagaming on everyone else's part.

confused rock wrote:The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

wasn't this to help people like sec mains who only ever play sec unless they happen to roll antag, meaning people instantly knew they were antag if they happened to not be sec in a given round

i don't actually know if this is the case but i remember hearing something about it once

I don't think so.

I'm someone who plays sec a TON but this isn't an issue for me since I could either turn syndicate off entirely or do what I do which is play other jobs occasionally so it isn't a logical thing to think. Hell the guy I know who plays HoS almost exclusively doesn't do either of these things, if he's an assistant it's safe to assume he's an antagonist since he doesn't use the random thing.
And yeah it's metagaming but saying that won't fucking stop people from trusting those they know physically can't be antags. You can't prove they're not just a trusting person or anything like that. Hell nobody is going to take extra precautions when they know someone can't be an antag.

It was made by Naloac because quite literally people wouldn't stop targeting their static endlessly regardless of whether they were antag or not because they were a notable antag player. And they play mostly assistant I'm pretty sure. Only thing is that they should have implemented random body random name in a way that you couldn't lock features for it.

Either way, being a random body random name is dreadful and seeing them about really takes me out of the game just because of how dreadful they look. With no limitations on body combinations they stick out worse than statics do, and are some of my prime suspects because they chose to look like a mulligan. This is why Mulligan toxin also doesn't work, it makes you way too obvious.

Space Panda wrote:

confused rock wrote:The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

you are not forced to use a randomized name when playing as an antag

this ui is so cluttered and ugly it needs a symbol or something

I disagree cacogen. you have to edit those settings only rarely.

NecromancerAnne wrote:It was made by Naloac because quite literally people wouldn't stop targeting their static endlessly regardless of whether they were antag or not because they were a notable antag player. And they play mostly assistant I'm pretty sure. Only thing is that they should have implemented random body random name in a way that you couldn't lock features for it.

Either way, being a random body random name is dreadful and seeing them about really takes me out of the game just because of how dreadful they look. With no limitations on body combinations they stick out worse than statics do, and are some of my prime suspects because they chose to look like a mulligan. This is why Mulligan toxin also doesn't work, it makes you way too obvious.

Seems about right, but it doesnt stop you from just using the mirror