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Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:46 pm
by oranges
Okay so this has been something spinning around in my head for a while.
Basically, I think we're in a situation where people are spending a lot of time focusing on stuff that isn't on the station and doesn't interact with our core gameplay. We have lost a lot of focus, and it's hampering our momentum in terms of actually changing and improving things about the station, where most of the playerbase spends most of their time.
So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.
We will not carry code or content outside of the station unless it's burden is very small and minimal, that means lavaland ruins, space ruins and away missions.
You will notice I have already killed off lavaland dwarves and icemoon PR's, both are endemic of the focus on stuff that is outside the station.
Note: This does not mean these ideas are dead forever or the content they have is not useable.
space has already expressed interest in taking a station and putting it on the icemoon. This is totally acceptable, because the content is now focused in on the the station and the crew and I think we are past overdue such an idea.
Mixing the content in with the station makes carrying all the sprites and code worth it, because it's much more approachable.
anyway, that's it, feel free to complain here I guess, please don’t' be rude.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:25 pm
by Shadowflame909
Dang. Bullet hell Colossus shall be missed before it was born.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:03 pm
by Flatulent
does that mean miner is now a dead job that will never(read-in the near future) get updated
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:40 am
by annoyinggreencatgirl
oranges wrote:So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.
We will not carry code or content outside of the station unless it's burden is very small and minimal, that means lavaland ruins, space ruins and away missions.
Does this apply only or mostly to new things going forward, or does this mean some existing content might be getting the axe? Things like Charlie station, ashlwalkers/free golems/seed vault, lone comms agent.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:50 am
by oranges
So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:50 am
by JusticeGoat
People work on these sides projects because it interests them, I'm not sure if this will push anything new station side from people who would rather work on expanding exploration content rather just reduce getting anything from certain individuals. While i respect that you want to have more done to make the core experience improved, forcing anyone who does not have anything to add or have no interest to direct their attention to one part of the game will not produce spectacular results.
It was a major letdown to see this myself after admittedly working on my first bit of content for the game for a long few months thus why i am complaining, like any of this will mean anything in the end except be a way to vent my frustrations.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:57 am
by annoyinggreencatgirl
oranges wrote:So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew.
OK.
I guess my question was does "So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew." go hand-in-hand with asking maintainers to APPROVE PRs that remove existing things deemed not focused enough on the crew experience.
I'm not trying to stir the pot or even voice a complaint, I was just looking for clarification on what might be expected from this.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:38 am
by SpaceManiac
annoyinggreencatgirl wrote:
I guess my question was does "So as such, I am asking all maintainers to deny things that are not laser focused on the station and crew." go hand-in-hand with asking maintainers to APPROVE PRs that remove existing things deemed not focused enough on the crew experience.
I am sure that if that was meant then it would have been said.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:18 am
by nianjiilical
imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:35 am
by Armhulen
nianjiilical wrote:imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect
his pr needs a lot of work right now just FYI
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:57 am
by wesoda25
nianjiilical wrote:imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect
this but for ice moon
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:00 am
by Armhulen
wesoda25 wrote:nianjiilical wrote:imo you should at least approve the dwarf guy's stuff as-is since he seemingly finished most of it before this freeze went into effect
this but for ice moon
the madman is listening to oranges and now moving the entire station to icemoon
lets see how this shakes up
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:02 am
by NoxVS
rather than just leave things in a state of being unable to be touched, all off station content should just be axed
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:58 am
by CDranzer
So do we know where we are going or is it just going to be a blanket ban on offstation stuff on the hopes that somehow we'll get good content
Like I don't even disagree but this seems kind of aimless
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:30 am
by confused rock
NoxVS wrote:rather than just leave things in a state of being unable to be touched, all off station content should just be axed
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:26 pm
by nianjiilical
confused rock wrote:NoxVS wrote:rather than just leave things in a state of being unable to be touched, all off station content should just be axed
delete lavaland, put a bunch of runescape mining rocks on the station that give infinite mats when hit with a pickaxe
make miners have to level up mining to hit the higher tier ores
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:40 pm
by oranges
I like how you guys think
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:24 pm
by CDranzer
Wasn't there that one station that was literally partially built into an asteroid? Maybe all stations need to be like that, just embed them in resource rich asteroids and massively rework the mining game
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:08 pm
by Skillywatt
Lavaland is only used by power gamers looking for gamer gear, a place to feel like you “won”when you escape there after nuke ops get the disk, and gulag.
Delete
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:34 pm
by Kel-the-Oblivious
Skillywatt wrote:Lavaland is only used by power gamers looking for gamer gear, a place to feel like you “won”when you escape there after nuke ops get the disk, and gulag.
Delete
Or remove the power gamer gear. Kinda feels like throwing the baby out with the bath water to just cut it all.
Re: Announcement on lavaland and off station content.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:35 pm
by Shadowflame909
every department has gamer gear bro
Just buff yours so everyone can have equally op fun.
antags start off with gamer gear, thus the power houses of each department ending up with BETTER gamer gear, is just progress.