/tg/Station 13

Start buying them
It's nice to not be lonely while I listen to every other radio channel

the problem with syndie encryption keys is that if you buy it just for the syndiechat...

- you have to have one
- another tater has to have one
- the other tater has to talk
- you have to talk (potentially outing yourself as tater to someone who has you as their objective)

it's better for everyone if we all buy them, but since nobody buys them anyway, it'll stay that way cause they work best in pairs

maybe make it like a cult tome, so you can contact other taters that don't have the key.. but they need the key to reply

Yeah it's just that coordination is fun. Some of my most entertaining ling rounds have been those where everyone uses the chat and decides "Alright lets group up and go loud".

I guess it's too risky but such is life in SS13

I usually buy one if I don't feel like a surplus crate. Pretty sure tator AIs have one by default, and hearing all the channels is a very nice boon. Only issue is that telecomms scripts can potentially invalidate its secrecy.

Person who added them to uplinks here, thanks for trying to promote them.

I imagine two big reasons why people don't use them very much is that I didn't make a changelog update for it because I'm lazy so people may not even know it's in there and that perhaps it costs too much.

Thoughts on making it cheaper? Perhaps alongside the binary key?

An "encryption key kit" for like 7 telecrystals or something wouldn't be out of the question. It sounds a little too powerful, however, and 5 telecrystals is a pretty cheap price as it is.

The fact that traitor isn't a team antag mode and that killing another traitor for their equipment is worth it, makes having a syndicate radio channel pointless. It's good to have available on the off chance two or more traitors team up.

Also good to give to hacked cyborgs.

For me the problem with it is that I'm potentially wasting those telecrystals on the encryption key when I could buy something guaranteed to be useful. A lowered cost would be neat.

Seems really overpriced to me for what it does.

Vigilare wrote:the problem with syndie encryption keys is that if you buy it just for the syndiechat...

- you have to have one
- another tater has to have one
- the other tater has to talk
- you have to talk (potentially outing yourself as tater to someone who has you as their objective)

it's better for everyone if we all buy them, but since nobody buys them anyway, it'll stay that way cause they work best in pairs

maybe make it like a cult tome, so you can contact other taters that don't have the key.. but they need the key to reply

This would be better. "Any traitors out there? Meet me at fitness if you want to work together."

Combine the syndicate and binary keys into one key perhaps? That way, anyone who gets a binary key to listen in on the silicons also has access to a channel they wouldn't be interested in otherwise.

Ricotez wrote:Combine the syndicate and binary keys into one key perhaps? That way, anyone who gets a binary key to listen in on the silicons also has access to a channel they wouldn't be interested in otherwise.

I'll second this motion.

Alternatively could perhaps make it free. Put it in their backpack, or replace the standard encryption key with it, though the latter description would I assume be meta'd as fuck.

Balut wrote:

Ricotez wrote:Combine the syndicate and binary keys into one key perhaps? That way, anyone who gets a binary key to listen in on the silicons also has access to a channel they wouldn't be interested in otherwise.

I'll second this motion.

Alternatively could perhaps make it free. Put it in their backpack, or replace the standard encryption key with it, though the latter description would I assume be meta'd as fuck.

Thirded. On that note I'm just gonna start buying the key and hoping it catches on

I think I'll see about making it cheaper for now, it was originally 6 TCs along with the binary key before I lowered both to 5 so no reason why I can't see about going further. I could also see about adding it to a bundle or making a new bundle of some sort.

One of the reasons I added it in the first place is that it was extremely simple to take an already existing item and throw it in the uplink, I'm not really all that adept at coding especially with anything to do with radios.

also I don't think everyone realizes how useful it is to hear all the other radio channels, you can't talk on them unless you have another cypherkey with access to them but at least you know what everyone is up to

syndicate + binary key basically means that you're always one step ahead of your biggest threats

Ricotez wrote:also I don't think everyone realizes how useful it is to hear all the other radio channels, you can't talk on them unless you have another cypherkey with access to them but at least you know what everyone is up to

This. Its extremely useful on higher pop rounds. Mainly because command and sec normally report stuff in and you can literally avoid anyone tailing you.