/tg/Station 13

"I disagree with this change. The last time we used a map with full tile windows most people despised them and the same thing will happen again.

It's a generally agreed (if little known) mapping rule to not use full tile windows because they look bad.

I won't go onto a rant, but to summarise (THUMBS DOWN)

(Also this is something I would suggest a forum thread be made on)"

Erbbu wrote:Rebuilding those grille/rwindow things is a bitch after a bomb. If this helps with that, I'm for it.

ExplosiveCrate wrote:Doesn't change the fact that anyone with a crowbar and screwdriver can make a breach in under 2 seconds without risking being electrocuted by shocked wires.

Saegrimr wrote:Removing the sleek minimal firelocks with ugly ass full tile firelocks? I cannot get behind this at all.

lumipharon wrote:Also with firelocks under airlocks: You can fucking open airlock before crowbarring the firelock. Try click the airlock, shit's magic man. Also, not 100% sure, but you can probably alt click the tile and go direct to the firelock.

paprika wrote:Maybe buff regular windows and put R-windows where they make sense (space, etc) while also buffing how hard it is to deconstruct r-windows?

paprika wrote:Reinforced/regular window deconstruction will be reworked after the feature freeze so that reinforced windows are to r-walls as regular windows are to normal walls.

Grazyn wrote:To the people saying that rebuilding single pane window grills is hard: just click the grill with rglass

Saegrimr wrote:

paprika wrote:Reinforced/regular window deconstruction will be reworked after the feature freeze so that reinforced windows are to r-walls as regular windows are to normal walls.

So this means many of the r-windows inside the station will be replaced with regular windows, right?

Intigracy wrote:Problem with normal windows is they're piss easy to break.

The fulltile ones don't even have the health of a single onesided r-window.

Random Players wrote:You.. haven't been paying attention, have you?

/obj/item/weapon/twohanded/fireaxe/afterattack(atom/A as mob|obj|turf|area, mob/user as mob, proximity)
	if(!proximity) return
	if(A && wielded && (istype(A,/obj/structure/window) || istype(A,/obj/structure/grille))) //destroys windows and grilles in one hit
		if(istype(A,/obj/structure/window)) //should just make a window.Break() proc but couldn't bother with it
			var/obj/structure/window/W = A

			new /obj/item/weapon/shard( W.loc )
			if(W.reinf) new /obj/item/stack/rods( W.loc)

			if (W.dir == SOUTHWEST)
				new /obj/item/weapon/shard( W.loc )
				if(W.reinf) new /obj/item/stack/rods( W.loc)
		qdel(A)

//destroys windows and grilles in one hit

Random Players wrote:So? That's a FIREAXE. Only on the bridge and Atmos.
Which a assistant (Which is what you said, not atmos techs) SHOULDN'T have access to. And as said, Assistants that do that should be arrested and/or banned.
I admit that I missed that you specified Fireaxe the first time, but the point still stands.