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[Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:25 am
by BusterNutte
Byond account and character name: OrderoftheDarkOats Was an offline ban so no character name is available but i go by Bob Hadel
Banning admin: Nervere
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Unsure what this means because i couldnt see the banning message.
Ban reason and length: Admitted I was underage and it was perma.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): Im unsure because i tried opening bagil from the site and was only met by Byond could not connect rather than the banned message.
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Bagil
Your side of the story: It was on discord and I mentioned i was in school, someone asked college? and i said no Highschool and then was asked my age and said 17.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Well my birthday was last month so im 18 (not a minor anymore in the USA) and Nervere said once my birthday has passed they will unban me.

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:45 am
by Arianya
Full Ban Reason:
(MANUAL BAN) https://ibb.co/j1dWmc Admitted to being underaged on the Discord server. You must be at least 18 years old to play on /tg/station. Please appeal at the following link when you are 18 years of age: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=7

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:49 pm
by Cobby
Just a reminder the 18 rule no longer applies for legality but only for vast immaturity.

If the individual's ONLY fault is being 17, and they're otherwise a good player, I don't mind them being unbanned.

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:29 pm
by BusterNutte
Cobby wrote:Just a reminder the 18 rule no longer applies for legality but only for vast immaturity.

If the individual's ONLY fault is being 17, and they're otherwise a good player, I don't mind them being unbanned.
When was that decided? Because that stinks since I was only banned for admitting on discord that i was a minor.

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:56 pm
by Shezza
BusterNutte wrote:
Cobby wrote:Just a reminder the 18 rule no longer applies for legality but only for vast immaturity.

If the individual's ONLY fault is being 17, and they're otherwise a good player, I don't mind them being unbanned.
When was that decided? Because that stinks since I was only banned for admitting on discord that i was a minor.
When we completely banned ERP with rule 8.

Originaly this rule was, like cobby said, for legal reasons.

Now its case to case, depending on the admin.

EDIT:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... =18#p53916 , last thread I could find about this issue, last ruling(by presumably a headmin at the time) was to enforce this rule, however its 4 years old.

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:37 am
by BusterNutte
Shezza wrote:
BusterNutte wrote:
Cobby wrote:Just a reminder the 18 rule no longer applies for legality but only for vast immaturity.

If the individual's ONLY fault is being 17, and they're otherwise a good player, I don't mind them being unbanned.
When was that decided? Because that stinks since I was only banned for admitting on discord that i was a minor.
When we completely banned ERP with rule 8.

Originaly this rule was, like cobby said, for legal reasons.

Now its case to case, depending on the admin.

EDIT:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... =18#p53916 , last thread I could find about this issue, last ruling(by presumably a headmin at the time) was to enforce this rule, however its 4 years old.
Now that mega stinks because i wasnt even on the server. Was just mentioning how I was stage managing a school play. :( oh well.

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:11 am
by Nervere
I didn’t do this ban completely out of the blue, I was a newmin at the time and I asked adminbus for advice.
Opinion when I asked was that, “If you’re underage and not smart enough to keep it to yourself, you’d ought to get banned.”
Enforcement has shifted much more towards Cobby’s perspective now, and I tend to agree with the sentiment. It’s definitely not a ban I would have applied if I were given the choice today. Regardless, you’re clear to be unbanned now.

Re: [Nervere] OrderoftheDarkOats No longer 17

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:20 am
by Virtual John
OrderoftheDarkOats my boy you are free to play. Make sure to read up on the rules section before jumping in, but otherwise have fun man, and welcome back!