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[CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:52 am
by CRTXBacon
Byond account and character name: CRTXBacon - Frank Brenard / Jebediah Phillips / Alyson Parker / Lakk-Ro
Banning admin: CID-Error (automated)
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Note
Ban reason and length: Detected as using a cid randomizer.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2018-03-09 14:27:55 (Yes I only recently realised it)
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Terry
Your side of the story: I was playing normally and now 2 months later I look in my notes to see this.
Why you think you should be unbanned: This was a fault of the automated system, I would never consider using a CID randomizer or avoid any due punishment. This being my only note should be evidence that I have had no punishments I could try to evade let alone want to. I feel that this note is an unfair reflection on me and could potentially skew an admin's decision based on a one-time fault with an automated system.

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:30 pm
by CRTXBacon
[Insert idiocy here]

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 1:40 pm
by Bluespace
He deleted a spambot post, he's not calling you a spambot.

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 2:06 pm
by CRTXBacon
Ah okay didn't know that was how it worked, my mistake.

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 2:10 pm
by Cobby
Someone needs to ping MSO if this is giving false positives

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 2:18 pm
by CRTXBacon
Might I also add that around this time the ban evasion detection was also having frequent false positives.

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 2:30 am
by oranges
You did indeed connect to terry with two different computer ID's with the same ckey on the 2018-03-09, you may have not done so knowingly but your ckey is tied to at least three computer id's and seems to switch between them quite often.

What operating system/setup are you using to run byond?

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:40 pm
by CRTXBacon
I use BYOND on 2 computers (that 3rd is probably from before I reset my desktop), now that I think about it I think this note is from a day where I was playing on my laptop and then switched to playing on my desktop. My desktop runs win 10 and my laptop win 8.1. With the reconnection only being a few minutes after disconnecting I can now see why the system would have marked me.

And just so that you know why the computer I play on changes often, I usually use my laptop when away from home or otherwise unable to use my desktop.

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:25 am
by oranges
this is basically waiting on MSO to comment

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:00 pm
by ABearInTheWoods
Its the alt cid bug.

fixed by https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/36887

note removed.

Details: the ways byond gets the hardware info to generate cids aren't foolproof, so what ends up happening is everybody has two cids, their normal one, and the one that gets generated when one of the hardware api calls fails, sometimes the randomizer check can see the bugged one in one connection, and the normal one in the next connection.

Re: [CID-Error] CRTXBacon - Wrongful automated note

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:57 am
by CitrusGender
Looks like this is resolved.