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Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:21 pm
by Shadowflame909
They had an advantage before the nerf, but now they're pretty much cheese city.

1. If they eat an MMI or a POSIBRAIN, it can activate inside of them and just spew their location on the radio.

2. If it eats anyone with suit sensors slightly on, they can be tracked anywhere and prevented from doing anything.

3. If they eat a ling, they can get arm blade from inside out with no counter.

My point is, morphs suck and can't really counter anything. All they can do is fist fight you and eat items. They need a buff because they can be cheesed if they eat ANY sentient living mob of any sort. It's unpreventable.

Edit: Also, since they're forced to only be able to fight in melee. You can toss any ranged weapons at them, they're pretty much good as dead. I think this calls for a buff, to maybe be able to spit items out?

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:29 pm
by Lumbermancer
But they're supposed to be a meme.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:36 pm
by Shadowflame909
A meme that for some reason still eats nerfs. But, I believe it needs a buff.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:46 pm
by Lazengann
How would buffing them make the rounds they're involved in more interesting? Morphs are a bad combination of boring and frustrating and the earlier they're killed the better

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 8:04 pm
by Cobby
If only there was an alternative based around their gimmick rather than yet another dance antag...

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:04 pm
by Shadowflame909
Morphs shouldn't be statue memes!

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:22 pm
by Armhulen
Cobby wrote:If only there was an alternative based around their gimmick rather than yet another dance antag...
exactly

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:20 pm
by Shadowflame909
Cobby wrote:If only there was an alternative based around their gimmick rather than yet another dance antag...
I'm willing to see statue morph memes, if it gets test merged instead of full merged. Still sounds easier to cheese then the current morph though.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:29 pm
by oranges
I can just remove them

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:41 pm
by Shadowflame909
That's not a good solution to everything y'know.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:42 pm
by iksyp
guys wtf why is this side antag not able to completely wipe the crew that's unplayable

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:45 pm
by Shadowflame909
Hello, guy who doesn't even read threads. The morphs aren't able to wipe out one crew member without facing a quick death. They literally cannot avoid any of these scenarios and none of these solutions solve this problem.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:45 pm
by Lazengann
Shadowflame909 wrote:That's not a good solution to everything y'know.
It is for morphs

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:50 pm
by Shadowflame909
Am I the only person who enjoys the gimmick of morphs? Ah well, chameleon projector + e-bow it is then..

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:15 am
by somerandomguy
Just remove the speech alterations

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:47 am
by EagleWiz
Give the morph the powers of whatever it is disguised as. Fear Morph Beepsky.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:11 am
by Shadowflame909
somerandomguy wrote:Just remove the speech alterations
What's even going on in this thread anymore, sounds like a bunch of "nerf morphs" hoopla. When the point of this thread was to state the opposite! They're nerfed to shit and can be killed by tossing floor tiles. I just want them to be able to regurgitate things. I hope that regurgitated living mobs auto KO, so lings dont armblade the morphs even more when they get out.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:06 am
by kevinz000
Shadowflame909 wrote:Am I the only person who enjoys the gimmick of morphs? Ah well, chameleon projector + e-bow it is then..
how to prove a point to coders.jpg

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:19 am
by Shadowflame909
This was cobbys plan from the start, give chameleon projectors the abillity to turn into anything like morphs! Replace the arcade machine, kill people afterwords. It's just lamer murderbone!

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:47 am
by Lumbermancer
If you want to make morphs good, give them some reasonable objective. Make them eat certain item types, and get sick of everything else. Make it less about wanton chaos and mayhem. Because your main complaint seems to be that your quest to destroy the station and remove everyone from the round is stopped by those meddling kids every time.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:32 am
by Grazyn
Any side antag should lose if the whole station is working specifically against them. If there are more serious threats, you can bet that people won't be hunting for the one morph and you can do your shit in peace

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:58 pm
by Lumbermancer
Side antag shouldn't involve the whole station in the first place.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:29 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
I thought the point of this complaint is that morphs almost always lose 1v1, not 1vstation

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:08 pm
by Lumbermancer
The point seems to be that Morph by eating stuff makes life harder for itself.

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:40 pm
by iksyp
so morphs are the physical manifestation of obesity?

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:37 pm
by PKPenguin321
iksyp wrote:so morphs are the physical manifestation of obesity?
yes actually

Re: Morphs are very easy to cheese.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:04 pm
by Shadowflame909
Two and Three are unavoidable. Why would you want any valid hunters to get revived and continue looking for you? Also, they got a big nerf CosmicScientist. They can only fight in their slow form. So, more then likely you're not going to be able to speedily flee and ventcrawl. Not if a semi-robust crewmember or the casual valid-hunter has anything to say about it. Morphs got memed.

The solutions just seem to be, "Lol morphs are bad and who cares if they get fucked over because no one likes them." So, I'll just close this thread here.