Advanced Cybernetics

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Add cybernetics?

Yes, as in the first post.
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Yes, as in the first post.
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Yes, as in the first post.
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Yes, but no one should start with cybernetics installed.
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Yes, but no one should start with cybernetics installed.
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Yes, but no one should start with cybernetics installed.
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Yes, but not as a way to bypass equipment slot limits.
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Advanced Cybernetics

Post by Arete » #31773

New surgical procedure: Install/Remove ID
  • Performed on an arm.
  • Requires an ID, surgical tools.
  • An installed ID allows access to anything that could be accessed by wearing or inserting that ID.
  • If an ID is also worn in the suit's ID slot, then the wearer gets both sets of access and the display name of the worn ID.
  • Upon death or cloning, the ID must be removed and inserted into the new desired holder. Alternatively, the arm can be removed entirely (easier than removing just the ID) and carried around to open doors and access computers.
  • Optional: after roundstart, the procedure can only be done with "miniaturized ID chips," which require some R&D to be done first and are otherwise identical to normal IDs in how they can be worn and modified.
  • At round start, heads and captain have their IDs installed.
New surgical procedure: Cybernetic Vision Upgrade
  • Performed on the eyes.
  • Requires any HUD-type item, surgical tools.
  • Allows all the abilities of wearing the HUD, including record modification (because it's capable of receiving direct neural impulses).
  • If another HUD is worn on top, then the worn HUD takes precedence.
  • Optional: maybe flash protection and night vision should cause flashing red or green pupils, or maybe flash protection and/or night vision just shouldn't come with the upgrade.
  • Optional: after roundstart, getting HUD vision requires specialized parts from R&D.
  • At round start, head of security has a cybernetic sec HUD and chief medical officer has a cybernetic medical HUD.
New item/surgical procedure: Install Toxin Filter
  • Performed on the mouth.
  • Maybe requires a new item, "toxin filter," or maybe can be done with a gas mask, and surgical tools.
  • Allows the target to ignore all gases in the air aside from oxygen. Extremes of pressure still deal damage as normal. The patient still needs to breathe, which means there has to be an oxygen partial pressure of at least 16kPa.
  • At round start, the chief engineer has this installed.
New item/surgical procedure: Install Muscular Regulator
  • Performed on the chest.
  • Requires a new item, "muscular regulator," with multiple qualities available at R&D. Also surgical tools.
  • Shortens stuns to a varying degree depending on the quality.
  • At round start, security officers start with low quality units installed and the head of security and maybe captain start with higher quality units installed.
  • Optional: instead of reducing stun duration, the regulator "absorbs" one stun, negating it completely, after which it needs to recharge before absorbing any more. This might be overpowered.
New item/surgical procedure: Install Cranial Computer
  • Performed on the head.
  • Requires a new R&D item, "cybernetic computer package," a circuitboard for the desired console, and surgical tools.
  • Allows the patient to open up that console's window anywhere. Only some consoles are compatible with this procedure.
  • This might be a bit too strong for roundstart, though giving the captain a direct line to Centcomm from anywhere could be interesting.
  • Optional: allow this to be done with smaller computerized items too, PDAs in particular.
Giving people toys without making them targets came up in the discussion on making heads of staff and security less of a joke. The idea here is to do that without declaring their toys completely off-limits to everyone else. Even any cybernetic ideas that are too strong for roundstart will still probably end up with priority given to heads of staff (like the way that whenever robotics feels like making an Odysseus, they usually offer it to the CMO in my experience).

Currently, the difference between a harmless spaceman and a very dangerous one is just what equipment that spaceman is wearing, and equipment can be obtained and equipped with one click each. At the same time, equipment slots offer tradeoffs that make it so that no one loadout is going to be optimal for all situations. Both of those are part of what lends this game its charm, but they also mean that a player tends to reach his maximum dangerousness five minutes into a round and any reactive force (like heads and security) are at an innate disadvantage because the aggressor chooses the circumstances of the conflict. Adding robust items that take time and cooperation to activate and allow for robustness beyond what someone restricted by equipment slots can manage would mitigate this somewhat. Any other ideas for interesting and useful cybernetics options are welcome.
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Re: Advanced Cybernetics

Post by Steelpoint » #31776

These are all pretty interesting one way or the other.

I am interested in the idea of heads of staff having their ID cards implanted into their body. BUUUTTTT that can be viewed as being unbalanced if they all get it at round start.

I am genuinely interested in seeing how viable it is to give Heads of staff and Security round start access to some of these tools. Might help differentiate them and give them a cool perk.
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Re: Advanced Cybernetics

Post by callanrockslol » #31777

Aside from the ID one, which is a terrivle idea, if you make it so you can pull out implants like this with a screwdriver and I'm all for it

And by pull out I mean tear out violently
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Re: Advanced Cybernetics

Post by deathhoof » #31817

They should all have to be "integrated" into the nervous system of the person involved using the surgical drill. Since the surgical drill always gets stolen that will make these upgrades a lot more balanced.
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Re: Advanced Cybernetics

Post by Cipher3 » #31881

Heads shouldn't get IDs at roundstart, muscle regulator needs balance regulating, and install computer is iffy. Question for the ID one: with an ID in your arm but none in your equipment slot, when wearing a gas mask or something that would hide your identity, does your identity still show?

The HUD thing has been suggested before and I supported it then, and we've also needed new surgery procedures because as it stands it's boring. So this could be really good.
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Re: Advanced Cybernetics

Post by Reimoo » #31891

Tearing someone's arm off and using it as an ID sounds hilarious.
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Re: Advanced Cybernetics

Post by Cipher3 » #31898

Reimoo wrote:Tearing someone's arm off and using it as an ID sounds hilarious.
This.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

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I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

"I think you guys are just tired of drinking hitler and now you want diet hitler.
I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

by oranges » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:15 pm
Get out bluespace, you've not been relevant since you lost the elections

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