/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:06 am**

So i'm working on a degree in multi-media. Basically doing a bit of every thing. I'm focusing more on 3D art but i do a lot of photoshop and sound too.

So i'd like to experiment with sound a bit more.

Goofball came to me a while ago saying that they wanted a new captain announcement tone. After a bit of playing around, i came up with this.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ncment.wav

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9654207/data.wav
I don't know what this one would be useful for exactly, but it just sounded like some kind of cool transmission or computer process. (Also it's the words "fuck your cunt" in binary, high tones are 1s, lows are 0s)

A few TG developers have said they wanted more alarm sounds, so here's a couple experiments.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... larm_1.wav
I've noticed fire alarms never had any noise, thought this might be appropriate.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9654207/alarm.wav
Not sure where this one would work, could be used somewhere.

That's it for right now. If anyone has some suggestions for sounds you think should be replaced or added i can attempt to make them here.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:33 am**

Holy fuck put a warning on these my fucking ears

Edit: What we need more than anything is new ambient tracks that run for 30 seconds or so, the lobby ambience, the medbay ambience, etc

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:30 am**

Those alarms are way too high pitch.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:14 am**

Mindustry wrote:Those alarms are way too high pitch.

Alarms should grab attention but not be overbearing about it. Also, consider a given player on any given day will play several rounds (usually in a row) and get to hear whatever sound you add several times per round. If its a really irritating sound to hear, nobody's going to enjoy it and might as well just rush the earmuffs at roundstart.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:50 am**

paprika wrote:Holy fuck put a warning on these my fucking ears

Edit: What we need more than anything is new ambient tracks that run for 30 seconds or so, the lobby ambience, the medbay ambience, etc

This, I would love some better maintenance ambience tracks

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:18 am**

Having somebody who knows what they're doing working on sounds would be amazing
Keep in mind however that we can only really use CC0 sounds. We could maybe make an exception if you license these under another CC license. Maybe. I'm not entirely sure.

And yeah, these are way too high-pitched. Low-pitched alarms would probably fit in much better with SS13 in general.
And basically what other people have said so far, we have very little ambience music.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:53 pm**

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... nt_amb.wav

How's this for an amb sound for maint?

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:45 pm**

That actually sounds really good. Although the dripping noises don't make sense because we don't have a plumbing system. Yet.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:25 am**

Coolant? mystery fluid? I don't know, it seemed like it would fit. I always had the impression that maint was cold and musty due to lack of vents.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:31 am**

Reimoo wrote:That actually sounds really good. Although the dripping noises don't make sense because we don't have a plumbing system. Yet.

Conensation from local hot/cold pipes.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:16 am**

Cuboos wrote:Coolant? mystery fluid? I don't know, it seemed like it would fit. I always had the impression that maint was cold and musty due to lack of vents.

It could well be warm and musty. Space is very cold, but it contains very little material to absorb heat by conduction. Compare the feeling of your hand in a 400 degree oven to the feeling of your hand in 400 degree water, and you have an idea of the differences we're talking about here. That leaves blackbody radiation as the only method by which the station can cool down, and with as many heat-generating machines and organisms as populate the station, it could well be that overheating should be more of a hazard than freezing.

I keep wanting to make a suggestion thread about more accurately representing the hazards of space in the code, but frankly it'd be a big gameplay change for very little gameplay benefit. My immersions are probably not that valuable.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:37 am**

That maintenance ambient track is very good, but I don't think it should have any machinery sounds that can be reproduced by station machinery, like that disposals sound (maybe replace it with echoing metal creaking noise). Other than that, I love it.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:48 am**

Actually I think the echoed disposal sound is really neat because it implies that the disposal system is actually being used.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:23 am**

But hearing disposals can be useful, the disposal sound in the track can be confusing.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:57 pm**

Scott wrote:But hearing disposals can be useful, the disposal sound in the track can be confusing.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:25 pm**

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... t_amb2.wav

here it is again with a few mods:
Reduced the amount of drips
added a few metal creaking
Removed SS13 machines
Added a few more misc sounds.

Also, on the discussion of the machines. I can make a pretty convincing far away sound or the sound of something though a wall. Would there be an effective way to implament this into the game? Improved distance sounds?

Oh also, i don't know if any of this has been implemented, but the NT guys a while ago asked me to make some sounds for their Alien Queen, i don't know if it ever made it into the game though.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... breath.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... stomp1.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... stomp2.wav

would TG find these useful?

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:34 pm**

Now you just need to make it loop/longer, I am not sure how ambient sounds work in ss13, I haven't had them on for a long time.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:21 pm**

Is it possible to loop sound continuously?

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:19 am**

Don't forget to add some reverb so it sounds like we're actually in a metal deathtrap in space.

Cuboos wrote:Is it possible to loop sound continuously?

I believe the functionality is there, it's just never been tried before AFAIK. It's just a var in the sound proc.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:47 am**

that entire loop is made out of reverb.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:08 am**

>that distant admin BWOINK

i giggled

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:10 am**

Hehe, I giggled too, It's around 19-20 seconds. That's funny.
Also, I love your ambient sounds but your alarm sounds just don't really fit. I love your sounds in general, make more please ;_;

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:54 am**

Just in general, having more things making more sounds would be nice. For most things, not very loud and prominent sounds like airlocks have, but fainter sounds to complement the ambient, except they are actually being produced by the objects and things around you.

That would be really, really nice.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:53 am**

Engineering ambience could be full of those retro-space-sounding beeps and boops like here.

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:10 am**

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

Changes: time increased to 60 seconds, sounds spread out more, added more creaking, Ghost clown?

Also here's another pass at the fire alarm.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... m_loop.wav
a bit short but it loops perfectly.

And here was an idea i got when playing with the maintenance ambiance.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ghWall.wav

The first one is a far away version of the disposal while the second one is the sound of a disposal through a wall. I was think (if it were possible) i could edit some of the sounds to have far away version/ through a wall version. Would this be a possibility?

Posted: **Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:20 pm**

I guess far-away is theoretically possible, but I don't think it'd be that great. Through walls is not possible though (or too hard to be worth it, anyway),

I love the maint ambience loop.

E:
I've cut the maint ambience up in 5 parts because that works better. I'll have a PR up shortly.

E2:
https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/5071

Posted: **Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:20 pm**

Personally I think that maint ambience is a little bit too obtrusive, too dynamic. It should be more ambient, background static, not random sound effects jumping out at you one by one.
Here's what I'm getting at, added a drone sound, another slowly oscillating drone sound and made perhaps too much reverb on everything.

Posted: **Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:22 pm**

tbh that much machinery noise only makes sense in maint areas that are near heavy equipment, like the grinder or Engineering, most of maint is pretty empty

I guess the most realistic system would be some kind of extremely long distance reverb that makes any sound made in a maint tunnel reverb all the way through it, but something like that would be unfeasible

Posted: **Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:46 pm**

meh, it'd be possible to have everyone in maint hear faint echoes of all sounds played on the station.
not very efficient, mind you, but possible.

Posted: **Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:58 pm**

I may be mistaken, but isn't maintenance divided into more than one area? You could play the tracks with more machinery sounds in the maintenance adjacent to engineering.

kosmos wrote:Personally I think that maint ambience is a little bit too obtrusive, too dynamic. It should be more ambient, background static, not random sound effects jumping out at you one by one.
Here's what I'm getting at, added a drone sound, another slowly oscillating drone sound and made perhaps too much reverb on everything.

It's only played once when you enter.

Posted: **Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:05 pm**

Scott wrote:I may be mistaken, but isn't maintenance divided into more than one area? You could play the tracks with more machinery sounds in the maintenance adjacent to engineering..

Yeah it is, I guess that could work. Currently the "machinery" is generic enough to be played everywhere though. More ambience tracks suited to a particular kind of maintenance would obviously be apreciated.

Posted: **Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:42 pm**

This may interest everyone. It is a piratepad blergfest of ideas for music tracks as inspiration for original compositions for an official SS13 score.
http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/V5SEbb8K8t/rev.5921 (this revision specifically because it still retains authorship colors which is important to find out who is saying what)
Thanks to MrPerson for still having a link to the piratepad of piratepads

Posted: **Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:08 pm**

Are you talking about in game music now? Or just lobby music?

Posted: **Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:40 pm**

Either/or, mostly in-game music.

Posted: **Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:52 pm**

In game music would be interesting. What circumstances would it play in? Just as background music? Special music for when you're a traitor even?

Cause that sounds awesome as hell.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:21 am**

I'm not real good at music...

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:37 am**

Reimoo wrote:In game music would be interesting. What circumstances would it play in? Just as background music? Special music for when you're a traitor even?

Cause that sounds awesome as hell.

FTL soundtrack

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:19 am**

JJRcop wrote:This may interest everyone. It is a piratepad blergfest of ideas for music tracks as inspiration for original compositions for an official SS13 score.
http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/V5SEbb8K8t/rev.5921 (this revision specifically because it still retains authorship colors which is important to find out who is saying what)
Thanks to MrPerson for still having a link to the piratepad of piratepads

That pad is 80% just me and Pete going "Hey this song is great, right?"

I miss Pete now.

Posted: **Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:29 am**

Sorry to be bumping a dying thread here. But i came up with some new sounds.

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1665

In this thread some one suggested playing a sound when you get your antag notification. While it looks like they aren't going to do the delay for antag distribution i still thought it'd be a fun exercise.

Here are the ideas i came up with:

Traitor Notification: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

Changling Notification: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

Cultist Notification: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

I didn't work any others because i either couldn't think of something at the moment or couldn't find a decent sound effect. Comments and critique are encouraged.

Posted: **Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:45 am**

Cuboos wrote: Traitor Notification: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

Changling Notification: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

Cultist Notification: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

Wow. These are amazing.

I will say though, the traitor notification needs something added to it. More percussion perhaps?

Posted: **Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:08 pm**

Pretty cool, but they last too long.

Posted: **Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:27 pm**

Give eswords a pfffff pweeee sound

Posted: **Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:52 pm**

Ezel wrote:Give eswords a pfffff pweeee sound

... they.... already do?

EDIT: IT IS DONE https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... Esword.wav

Posted: **Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:49 pm**

Cuboos wrote:
Ezel wrote:Give eswords a pfffff pweeee sound
... they.... already do?

EDIT: IT IS DONE https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... Esword.wav

Merge he plox. Also traitor needs more DUN DUN DUUN!
Jk, those notifications are excellent, hope they (or some version of them) get added.

Posted: **Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:59 am**

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... xdown2.wav

Edit to the Traitor alert. added a "Number station" sound found on Freesounds

Posted: **Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:24 am**

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... xdown2.wav

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

made a double agent alert and malf AI alert

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:34 am**

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:27 am**

Cuboos wrote:a beepsky voice revamp i proposed to #coderbus, i figured i might run it by the rest of you first before i made a pull request.

Ehhhh... maybe for the EDs, but beepsky sounds fine. These are kind of grating.

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:48 pm**

Cuboos wrote:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... xdown2.wav

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/965 ... ixdown.wav

made a double agent alert and malf AI alert

Didn't spies in Civilization 2 make a similar wood block sound when they were successful? This is perfect.

I feel like the malf sound should have a reference to HAL9000 *shrug* Might be low hanging fruit though.

Posted: **Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:25 pm**

>look away from thread for a month
>lots of new awesome sounds
these are great, i'll implement them after the freeze

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