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[saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:08 am
by poljik2
Byond account and character name: poljik2, Sigun Akrularan
Banning admin: saegrimr
Ban reason and length: Multikeying, unresponsive to ahelps
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2014-09-13 19:48:28 CST
Your side of the story: I introduced my sibling to the game and left them to their own devices after showing them how to switch hands, etc. Because of their newness, they must not have realized that they were being pm'd by saegrimr. And about the whole same name thing, we both maintain very similar usernames.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Because I was only showing my sibling the game. I don't think any crime was committed, though correct me if I'm wrong.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:16 pm
by Saegrimr
Assuming it was your sibling, its still really suspicious to have poljik4 logged in, go completely still while poljik2 logs in and ghosts, then after a while logs off while the initial character resumes running around.
On top of that your old account has been banned for metacomms before, which if this isn't multikeying then this would be metacomms.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:53 pm
by poljik2
I don't recall joining the server after showing them the game, and the way I was teaching them was by standing over their shoulder and pointing things out. I don't even remember getting on the server at all yesterday, but I may have briefly played before my sibling asked me to explain the game to them. At that point I left the server (i.e. went brain dead) and helped them set up byond, and eventually showed them the basics of gameplay. The only other time I even touched SS13 yesterday was when I join a friend's private server to dick about. Then I went to play Dank Souls and a bit of Gmod.
Of course, keep in mind that my short term memory is pretty bad, so I may have mixed up a few things. I'd hate to make you look through logs of the round, but I think those would confirm my absence from the game and their presence.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:57 pm
by poljik2
Oh, and about the whole metacomms thing in the past, funny story, I was trying to show another family member the game. That time, however, I made the mistake of playing at the same time as them, and in the same room. Heh. That was pretty fun to explain.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:30 pm
by Saegrimr
[15:48:03]ACCESS: Login: Poljik4/(Poljik4) from [***] || BYOND v506
[16:19:41]ACCESS: Login: Poljik2/(Poljik2) from [***] || BYOND v506
[16:19:41]ACCESS: Notice: Poljik2/(Poljik2) has the same IP (***) as Poljik4/(Suzie Brown).
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:07 pm
by poljik2
Huh. What was I doing that round? Because I honestly don't recall. Was I on for long? You see, how I remember it was I got them set up and then backseat game'd them for an hour or so, literally standing behind them and giving pointers on how to play.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:56 pm
by Saegrimr
poljik2 wrote:Huh. What was I doing that round?
That's what i'd like to know.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:11 pm
by poljik2
Well, since the logs say I came on, I'd assume that I took the miner role, as it's my favorite at the moment. And by ghosting, do you mean typing 'dead' and then sectating? I don't know hold long I stayed on for, or what my sibling was doing, as they were downstairs. I'd have to assume that the whole 'afk while I was on' thing was a coincidence.
Sorry if this whole thing is coming off as jumbled and incoherent. I'm honestly quite flustered at the moment.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:48 pm
by poljik2
I don't suppose you could link me to the logs to have a look myself? I think it would help clear up some confusion on my end.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:07 pm
by Saegrimr
So poljik4 was wandering around the kitchen/bar mostly.
The logs show you logging in from poljik2, and during which I had started watching poljik4 and saw no movement untill poljik2 logs off again at [16:20:41]
Afterwards, poljik4 starts moving again and leaves the kitchen to roam the station which, to me, looks like you were specifically looking for something after logging in from another account to ghost and find it.
Also the whole "my brother did it" excuse generally gets appeals sent straight to the trash.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:50 pm
by poljik2
Huh. That's really odd. So I logged in for exactly one minute and my sibling stopped moving for that exact amount of time? That has to be a bug, or something, considering I'd have to climb two sets of stairs to get to my computer from theirs.
Ah, and that really helped jog my memory! So, now I remember that the first time they started playing on the server, or even SS13, the game was already in progress. I think I told them to choose assitant just so they could get their bearings with being relied upon by any other station staff. Before the round ended, we were trying to find the HoP to get reassignment. The HoP had locked down his office at the time, so they ended up just getting on the shuttle when it came, still an assistant.
Before they had even started playing, I helped them set up their occupation preferences, and they had wanted to be the chef. But when the next round started they ended up being a doctor. That was the point at which I left them alone, but I checked up on them a few more times, and recall them loitering about the kitchen, wanting to be the chef's assistant, or something.
Again, all of this was backseat gaming. That one minute login must have been an error.
What it comes down to is that all I can do is tell you truth and hope that you believe me. I can say I have no malicious intent, but you will always have the final word.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:59 pm
by Pandarsenic
Take a picture of you together with your shoes on your head and your usernames in highlighter on a piece of paper or something.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:02 am
by poljik2
Alright, I'm gonna PM the photo to you, saegrimr.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:17 am
by poljik2
Ok, so .jpg and .png extensions aren't allowed? How do I send the photo?
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:21 am
by CreationPro
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:29 am
by poljik2
Oh yeah, I forgot I'm fucking retarded
[imgur link goes here]
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:08 am
by Saegrimr
I can't believe Pandarsenic actually asked that, and I can't believe you actually did it.
On the good side, congrats, your story checks out. On the bad side You must be 18 or older to play on the game servers.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:30 am
by poljik2
I am, but my sister obviously is not. Oops
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:34 am
by Saegrimr
Alright well, ban lifted on poljik2. I really don't want to be seeing any poljik1, 3, 5+
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:49 am
by poljik2
What a fucking ordeal.
This better go down in spess man history.
Thanks for your time, based saegrimr.
Re: [saegrimr] poljik2 - New player misunderstanding
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:52 am
by Saegrimr
I think you're already a minor celebrity for actually going through the trouble to take that picture.