/tg/Station 13

Was just curious to see the kinds of responses this would get.
I'll toss my reply in when I'm a little less completely exhausted.

At first I fell in love with this game for its complexity and uniqueness.

TG was the first server I really played on (On /v/'s recommendation), and it really stuck with me. I've never really RP'd before but the light RP policies here really encouraged me to try it out, and I ended up loving it. It took me a month to get a decent handle on the game, and I've been unable to keep away for long since.

SS13 filled a hole left after I lost interest in TF2 as my go-to past-time.

Nowadays, I've become incredibly invested with emotion, time, and effort. I want to take this game forward and help improve it and it's community.

I find it more fun nowadays to play other games with the community rather than actually playing SS13.
/tg/station still made some pretty cool people i love u all guys <3

Sane administration for the most part. After I rightfully got banned from goon I ran into shit like an LLA ai hunting a wizard because it had just decided they weren't human without a law change and an admin who may have been playing the AI backing it up latter, I was the drooling moron's borg (didn't even lock me down when we disagreed) and I basically kept the wizard alive against the AI and station until they eventually changed my laws. Then one server from what I recall had tentacle mobs that admins spawned to make rape jokes. Latter on after I came here I tried for a time xenostation and encountered the most incompetent host to date Straykitty whose experiment in admin automation was so laughable the griefers just switched to punching people instead of shooting them and the round type broke due to marines being unable to fight aliens in groups without accidental friendly fire turning them into corgi's.

Yeah there are a few hitches but for the most part it is drat good. Also the light rp atmosphere means people by and large tolerate my atrocious fake ork accent which is basically a hybrid bastard at this point.

Came here from NoX. This was the only other server i knew of at the time that used the same sort of code as NoX. Liked the rules and level of roleplay, so i decided to stay. Simple really.

It's the first server I ever played and to date the only one I've played. It has a decent population and I'm still learning newish things every day.

After a 4 hour long round on Artyom terraforming the away mission's atmosphere, I can safely say there is a wealth of new experiences I likely still don't have and jumping ship because most rounds fall into tedium would be premature.

It has a right mix of p2w/powergaming/metagaming/whatever you want to call it and RP, at least for me. You can loot the armory and validhunt as an assistant or you can sit in the bar with a chaplain and pretend you don't know what the singubeacon is as an engineer - "hey, let's plug it in, it looks like it'll blink all those pretty Christams lights". It's not really proper RP, it's people willing to participate/create absurd situations with me.

baystation is too spergy about their rules

goonstation's admins are awful and their rules are hypocritical as balls

/tg/ has plenty of people and the right amount of sperginess to hold my interest w/o driving me insane

I joined accidentally from /tg/ when someone posted screens from a much better looking game while talking about ss13.

I've always liked games that generate insane anecdotes and this is the best for that.

Can't remember how I even found this place. Possibly I knew someone who played once?

Either way I stuck around because it was a good mix between a game and RP. The RP brought intresting twists to the game and I had some genuinely funny moments, mixed with not taking it too seriously allowing the ridiculous to take place.

Think it was the second time I was on the server and I late started. Met Ian in the halls who simply barked "Murder, death, mutiny" then "Run!" and then ran off somewhere. Was the best mix of humour and fear.

Somehow I found SS13 played on goon for a while got bored somehow found TG literally thats it.

/tg/ was best board when going on 4chan was a feasible idea
plus players roleplay but it isn't too "read my awful three page backstory" retardy

I started here because my boyfriend played here and I'd play his game. I stayed because people were cruel and wanted me to go so instead of letting them win and beat me down I stayed and continued to play through all the shit. And then slowly people forgot to hate me and I made friends. All of a sudden despite our bickering sometimes tg feels like home/family and I have great pride in being a part of it. I really hate playing anywhere else right now but I still try and stay active in the community just in case the second server gets some life back in it.

Because /tg/-Station13 is basically crack cocaine. I always come back. There is no rational reason aside from FUN.

The admins here aren't powerhungry hypocrites and they actually care about doing their jobs, really.

Before I came to /tg/ I mostly bounced between servers because I was generally unaware of things at the time, and I had been playing like a griffon for several weeks before receiving a ban on /tg/ for beating the clown to death. That's when I realized SS13 actually had rules and stuff. So switching between goon, bay, and here I stayed here because the rules here are strict enough to encourage a decent balance between gameplay and RP without going too overboard like bay or going too disorganized like goon.

Because I'm too afraid of change to try out another?

Stockholm Syndrome

MisterPerson wrote:Stockholm Syndrome

Same.

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MisterPerson wrote:Stockholm Syndrome

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I started here, so, automatically, everywhere else sucks.

I actually tried /vg/ and it was not an enjoyable experience. Their map sucks.

Rockdtben wrote:

MisterPerson wrote:Stockholm Syndrome

Same.

Also.



And I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few that actually came FROM a /tg/thread.

I played basil like a year ago and I liked it. I still am on here because fuck it

the community is dying

Kavaloosh wrote:the community is dying

We miss you too Kava.

Alex Crimson wrote:Came here from NoX.

lmao

Put simply, I don't :>
I've never really been a regular on any of the servers, but the community is worth just sticking around on the forums posting every other blue moon.
I don't have any strong ties here either. Hard to explain but, I just like it here.

I get the strangest feeling that this thread is going to turn sour real fast.

I came because the administration and players were better than Facepunch.
I mostly don't play here anymore because of drama and Paradise serves my RP wants a bit more.

Spacemanspark wrote:I came because the administration and players were better than Facepunch.
I mostly don't play here anymore because of drama and Paradise serves my RP wants a bit more.

The drama hasn't really ever filtered down into the game, from what I've seen anyway. Maybe very occasionally leaked into OOC, but I mainly ignore/have disabled OOC anywho.

started playing on urist mcstation back when they started out, got interested in mapping and asked for help in coderbus. this got me interested in coding and such and i figured it's best to commit to the upstream so i started coding for tgstation, then I started playing on Basil because urist mcstation was always empty.

I like it better than any of the other servers.

I dunno, man. I started out on Goon and there's definite upsides about their stuff but man. Treestation was literally the worst map any SS13 server has ever run, in history. And over there, the crew honestly never feels like a crew, ever. It's just a bunch of people who spawn near each other than then all basically do their own thing unless some looming threat like the Wizard shows up to force people to unite. You can say 'how's that different from here?' but it's different. Here, the crew feels like an actual (dysfunctional, amateur) crew. Like, when the RD tells a scientist not to do something, if they do it, the RD can kick them out and get them arrested and stuff. It was rare to get either part of that on Goon.

I've got a similar attitude towards Bay, but for obviously different reasons. There's upsides to playing there. Security there was really cool, you literally feel like an actual cop, and you actually investigate crimes and stuff. It's the only server I've ever seen that happen. People generally care about the ARRR PEEE and stuff there, too. And you can have some fun community events when you can prevent people from acting like fuckheads and have some way to predict player behaviors, imo. Of course, it's also stuffy as hell. My favorite personal example of Bayrules is the fact that, at least when I was there a while ago, you can't murderbone at the end of the round. You know that huge, fun release of tension most people really enjoy after every round? Well on Bay, you just build tension for the (longer) shuttle ride and (longer) Centcom post-round thing... but the tension is never dissolved. It's stifling somehow. And the rounds literally last six fucking hours.

Try being an AI on Bay sometime. It's like running a mental marathon, you always have to be on because the AI is always expected to be on and attentive and whatnot. For six hours. Where nothing happens.

The only other server I really tried was NoX, while /tg/ was down, and uh, you know.

Other people mentioned stuff like the balance of gameplay and RP elements, and that people who enjoy either can find some fun here most of the time as long as they don't take it too far in either direction. The code is nice. People want Bay Atmos but holy shit it's actually horrible.

Counterplay? Balance? What's that? REALISM INVOLVES YOU SMASHING YOUR FACE 472 TIMES BECAUSE 3 SECONDS AGO A WINDOW WAS BROKEN ACROSS THE STATION HAVING FUN YET SHITHEAD?

peoplearestrange wrote:

Spacemanspark wrote:I came because the administration and players were better than Facepunch.
I mostly don't play here anymore because of drama and Paradise serves my RP wants a bit more.

The drama hasn't really ever filtered down into the game, from what I've seen anyway. Maybe very occasionally leaked into OOC, but I mainly ignore/have disabled OOC anywho.

I wasn't just refering to forum drama.

Hibbles wrote:People want Bay Atmos but holy shit it's actually horrible.

Can confirm. My favorite thing to do was get a locker and fill it with as much toolboxes, extinguishers, screwdrivers, and basically any sharp/blunt object and put it about 6 tiles away from an airlock and then open a gas canister to max, close the airlock, and leave. I laughed at the thought of someone opening that door.

What. That actually sounds really neat.

Reimoo wrote:What. That actually sounds really neat.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
NO.
NOOOOOO.
Ruptured lungs, broken bones, blood loss, and sometimes insta death.

Spacemanspark wrote:

Reimoo wrote:What. That actually sounds really neat.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
NO.
NOOOOOO.
Ruptured lungs, broken bones, blood loss, and sometimes insta death.

Or, translated to /tg/ medical mechanics: Apply bruise packs.

i dont b/c im banned.

but realtalk this was the only community not filled with huge gays and the admins are pretty chill (exept if u banned me) and do events sometimes. its not super serious HEAVY RP either. i didnt play this game to have some edgy nerd traitor quoting fucking confucious after he kills me. no i played this game to have someone do strange shit to my corpse b/c u nerds are fucking weird and thats y ur all unique

Cipher3 wrote:

Spacemanspark wrote:

Reimoo wrote:What. That actually sounds really neat.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
NO.
NOOOOOO.
Ruptured lungs, broken bones, blood loss, and sometimes insta death.

Or, translated to /tg/ medical mechanics: Apply bruise packs.

Bruise packs won't do shit.

I play here because stuff actually happens during the round (unlike Bay), but there are still rules against people being dicks FNR (unlike a whole bunch of places). For me, /tg/ station is that happy medium between boring and griefy.

Reimoo wrote:What. That actually sounds kinda neat.

Cipher3 wrote: Or, translated to /tg/ medical mechanics: Apply bruise packs.

Guesss, you've never had the privilege of getting critted the fuck out by a single locker that zoomed from one side of a large room over to airlock you just opened. Doesn't slam you just once, you know. Opening an airlock in Bay is always a risk, be it an over pressurized room or a decompressed room. Also, the 'sudden rush of air drags you!', which will slam you into a wall/locker and then the air is replaced or something and then those objects fly into you. If it's deliberate, you could make a giant gun by getting hundreds of glass shards and screwdrivers and opening 5 canisters of gas and close the airlock. When you open it(from the side, of course) the objects are propelled at an ungodly speed, and anyone within 10 tiles in front of that airlock is gg, armored or not.

From the experience I got playing a small server with a bay atmos equivalent (not the real thing) you didn't always need to be hit by free items to be killed, you could be bashed on the walls and stuff in a full space suit and get crit off that. Given the small server didn't have any proper airlocks that could remove air from themselves safely you basically took damage every time you exited one even if you weren't stupid and made sure to shut the rear door behind you. Forget what it was called you could crawl on water tanks and stuff there.

Several factors rolled into one package of awesome. I'm not gonna say TG is perfect, but it has far fewer flaws in it than Bay or Goon.

What it essentially boils down to is a nice 'balance' though.

What balance is that? Well, in a lot of things.

The first is the admins. They acknowledge what stagnation is and move to resolve it (unlike Bay) but also don't (usually) ruin an entire round with something RETARDADLY over the top (like Goon). They're a lot fairer, and very even headed, and not petty. I find both goon and Bay have very PETTY admins, that will jump the gun on anyone doing something 'wrong' and happily whip out their big black admin 'ban hammer'. TG, someone IC's in OoC about something minor, or, kinda hints at something IC but doesn't really give any specifics. (aka: Well that sucked.) They don't really mind, sometimes you just need to say a word. But they're also not entirely passive, if someone is acting like total shit, they'll get on their case. Any time the round starts getting 'stagnant' and they need to intervene to spice it up just so that, well, something happens. It's very minor, but still, impactful. Spawn a few ghosts as Aliens, maybe a Blob. Perhaps have a rush of meteor showers if things just, Really, really, REALLY need to just get to the leaving... but all in all, nothing that isn't, manageable.

Another thing is the community, a lot of very even headed people here, barring 3 main complaints I'll touch on later. But still, it's a beautiful balance of people who, lightly RP, and if nothing is going on, even RP more heavily just to do something, aren't afraid of doing something... different to spice things up. (Like say, Chemist giving the Bartender some of the supplies to make his 'funner' drinks.) and are, fairly robust if push comes to shove. In fact, one thing I find ASTONISHINGLY common on this server, is a sort of empathy for other players. Not everyone here feels like they play for themselves, that some of the people acknowledge that on the other side of that sprite is a player, just like them, and I really dig that.

The map is, respectable, the new wall around the engine really does help take a certain 'BS edge' off of some of the old tactics that I honostly appreciate. In general it's likeable, I kinda have a neutral opinion on it.

My big 3 issues though (That, really are, kinda minor):
If someone is playing forthemselves, they're quite capable of becoming gods. If someone is honostly meta-gaming, they're, way too powerful, and more than capable of ruining the round fo r the rest of the station.
SHITCURITY! wait, but the security isn't shit, you're just being a bitch because you broke the rules and don't like that the man in the red suit is doing his job. shitcurity is a title to be earned to those who should be jobbanned from sec officer, not your get out of jail free card for trying to break into chemistry with a welder as an engineer.
And the unadvoidable, you had no means of stopping them, deaths. Not just 'get stunned', I'm talking the PREPOSTEROUSLY large amount of ways to prevent someone from playing the game. Tazers, sleep toxins, Beepsky smash, choking, double barrel of live ammo, all things that can just, well. 'WOOPS and now I cna't play anymore, let's just kinda sit here and wait tell he kills me.'

Bay atmos would be absolutely murderous with our players. Literally every airlock would turn into a death trap.

It's not perfect.

I try not to play on sibyl during primetime, and I'm iffy about Sibyl during daytimes. Right now, we're sitting at 60 people on our only server and I'm always skeptical of SS13 once the pop starts pushing past 50. Especially on /tg/station, where greytide is an omnipresent thing, Security is perpetually undermanned and widely disliked and it's very easy to be quickly and permanently removed from the round without you being able to do anything about it.

I learned to play on /tg/station, from my first rounds as Steve Donk pushing crates in a cargo bay to my heyday as Janet Williams, being one of the go-to robusters in some kind of cool kids club. After a while, though, I grew disillusioned with the whole thing. Adminbus, Coderbus, players, factionalism, Ideas subforum being irrelevant, FNR being a circus of shitposting and bandwagoning. Erro being Erro, shitty players staying and good ones going. Old faces disappearing, and nobody rising to take their place.

So I left. I spent a good two, three months cruising between hub servers. Not to shittalk individual ones, but they're all terrible for various reasons. Maybe the playerbase is terrifyingly unrobust, barely managing to setup a singularity. Maybe the coders are handholding the playerbase, like manual-valving atmos on the map. Maybe the admins are inept, biased, or unprofessional, there to push buttons, play midis, and ban people for shit-talking them. Maybe there's an officially-endorsed metagaming metabuddy club, complete with skypeTSmumbleVent. Maybe it just doesn't match my playstyle, and all the rounds I have there are solidly mediocre.

Either way, though, the fact of the matter is that /tg/station is home. As soon as I logged back on Sibyl, I saw Opie Fisher in Genetics and MC Honk Deez Nuts running around with all access. I saw familiar names on the admin list and familiar names on the Who list. Three bombs went off, somebody opened a plasma canister in Escape, and Security was arresting some random assistant. Thirty minutes on Sibyl, and I smiled more than I had in two months of BYOND Hub Thirteeen. That's why I play here. It's not perfect, but it's home.

> actually playing the game




But really its because the community isn't a bunch of elitists that got kicked out of a freeform roleplay board or braindead idiots that randomly kill eachother and start massive drama with admin favoritism.



Also because its the only one that lets me actually fuck around and do stupid shit to see what will happen, RIP cargo singularity

This place is like the golden mean of SS13.
The balance between Bay-style vs. NoX-style, or "don't do this, don't do that" vs. "do whatever the fuck you want" is just right.
For example, "you have to do your job" vs. "you don't have to do your job at all".
Or "you cannot know what the antags do, you must play dumb each round" vs. "you can collect all the guns and tools possible and hunt for the antags all round".

The balance is very hard to define and keep, but somehow it works.

Because I still have the highest post count on the forums.

paprika wrote:Because I still have the highest post count on the forums.

It would be a sssshame if soooomething were to happen to it.

In total I think I have the highest postcount over all 3 forums.