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This is a poll to determine if people would like to see Monkey Mode made admin-only until it's been worked on. Relevent threads exist to discuss how it could be fixed, but as we have no idea when that would actually happen, if ever, we could remove it for now.

Unless people really do want to keep it as it is.

Oh god yes please sorry Cheridan but it's broken as fuck and not fun

It's still better than ling though.

It's broken and very unfun. Either make it admin-only or remove it entirely - at least until it's up to scratch with the other 'terrible' gamemodes. (If we're gonna have terrible modes, at least keep them consistently terrible pls).

We should at least discuss how exactly it's broken and not fun. I enjoyed monkey mode a lot tbh, it's a bit of random survival nonsense that's a fun break from the normal subterfuge and destruction that ravages that station. The only things that should be fixed about it, that I can see at least, is the cure for jungle fever and the win condition.

The most immedient problem with Monkey mode is that there is only one win condition, for there to be Monkeys on board the Evac shuttle.

Some quick ways to help alleviate this is to add the following objective/round ending conditions.

- Only Monkeys are on-board the emergency evacuation shuttle: MONKEY MAJOR VICTORY
- There are no living uninfected Humans: MONKEY MAJOR VICTORY
- There is at least one Infected Human on-board the emergency evacuation shuttle: MONKEY MINOR VICTORY
- All Monkeys and Infected Humans are dead: HUMAN MAJOR VICTOR
- Only Humans are on-board the emergency evacuation shuttle: HUMAN MINOR VICTORY

In addition, about 1 to 3 minutes after patient zero (The original infected humans) turn into Monkey's, the evacuation shuttle should be called and arrive within 15 or so minutes.

What these changes do is ensure there is a way to end the round without it turning into a awkward extended round, places a cap of a round time limit of about 20 to 25 minutes as well as gives more clear goals.

AdenAbrafo wrote:We should at least discuss how exactly it's broken and not fun. I enjoyed monkey mode a lot tbh, it's a bit of random survival nonsense that's a fun break from the normal subterfuge and destruction that ravages that station. The only things that should be fixed about it, that I can see at least, is the cure for jungle fever and the win condition.

We already have active threads discussing this here and here
http://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1054
http://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1033

This poll is to simply determine if we should make monkey mode admin-only until its issues have been addressed.

it's fine to take it out, i didn't really expect it to be in heavy rotation or anything. it's a silly blow-off-steam mode.

Cheridan wrote:it's fine to take it out, i didn't really expect it to be in heavy rotation or anything. it's a silly blow-off-steam mode.

I think I would like it better if there was a way to protect yourself from being bit. So far I've tried fire suits and bio suits and EOD. Nada. You can't beat a monkey off before it can bite you. And most players don't have guns so you have to get close to fight them.

Monkeys are supposed to use gorilla warfare since they can't really do anything offensive but bite and convert people. They can't use guns so if you let one get close to you it's supposed to be gg imo.