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Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:17 pm
by Toroic
So I pretty much play tg just for lifebringer (ashland podpeople with advanced botany) and I'm close but could use more tips for being self-sufficient and surviving/escaping on my own.

Any advice?

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:40 pm
by confused rock
play an actual role

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:37 am
by cedarbridge
confused rock wrote:play an actual role
Don't be a dick, rock.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:59 am
by D&B
Planting kudzu is a first row ticket to megafauna in your base city

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:15 am
by Lazengann
Combustible Lemons can break rocks, it's better to keep them at a lower potency because higher potency just increases your chances of setting yourself on fire and doesn't even break more rocks

Space Tobacco gives you salbutamol so you can deal with no oxygen

Coffee Robusta gives you ephedrine which will make you run really fast and reduces stun times.

Densified Chemicals is your best friend for making super plants, comes from red beets

Ambrosia Gaia makes your trays self sufficient, has earthsblood(heals everything but gives brain damage), produces light which is good for podmen and can be worn on your head like a hat

You can add mannitol to your plants with hydrogen, sugar, and water(from grass, grapes, and watermelons) to offset the brain damage earthsblood gives you

Swarms of killer tomatoes can kill everything you encounter and they will never try to attack you

Wheat starts with Production Speed 1
Tobacco starts with Yield 10.

If you want more specific advice then you'll have to say what you want tips on

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:08 am
by Toroic
D&B wrote:Planting kudzu is a first row ticket to megafauna in your base city
I'm pretty much against planting kudzu, it tends to mutate into dozens of evil varieties and once 2 hit delimbed me (other lifebringer planted it)
Lazengann wrote:Combustible Lemons can break rocks, it's better to keep them at a lower potency because higher potency just increases your chances of setting yourself on fire and doesn't even break more rocks

Space Tobacco gives you salbutamol so you can deal with no oxygen

Coffee Robusta gives you ephedrine which will make you run really fast and reduces stun times.

Densified Chemicals is your best friend for making super plants, comes from red beets

Ambrosia Gaia makes your trays self sufficient, has earthsblood(heals everything but gives brain damage), produces light which is good for podmen and can be worn on your head like a hat

You can add mannitol to your plants with hydrogen, sugar, and water(from grass, grapes, and watermelons) to offset the brain damage earthsblood gives you

Swarms of killer tomatoes can kill everything you encounter and they will never try to attack you

Wheat starts with Production Speed 1
Tobacco starts with Yield 10.

If you want more specific advice then you'll have to say what you want tips on
The mannitol tip is great, I knew about the killer tomatoes and gaia (I mutate some within the first minute and then blast it with the flora rays to up the yield). Someone clued me into the space tobacco salbutamol tip.

I've tested ambrosia vs pumpkin lantern for headwear/light production and it seems like high potency ambrosia is far better.

What do you think the best base plant is for chemical mixes once you've pulled the genes out? Wheat doesn't work because it grinds to flour instead of reagents. Mannitol ambrosia would be nice but I'd like to have omni/earthsblood/ephedrine/synap/mannitol in the same edible package without additional side effects. Densified Tomatoes maybe?

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 2:38 am
by Toroic
Slight bump as I've been doing more testing and found out more things.

In terms of reagent plants omega weed supposedly produces the most chemicals of any plant, which makes it a good base. A lifebringer who has built up their supplies should probably have a number of different kinds of plants before leaving their pod.

1) Explosive lemons (low potency)
2) Death nettle (high potency, can add some really nasty chems from mushrooms along with densified chemicals to make a one hit kill or just use as a library of exceptionally nasty chemicals)
3) Space tobacco (high potency, everything but salbutamol removed)
4) Omega weed with earthsblood/omnizine/mannitol (could put in bicard/kelotane too, if desired)
5) Coffee robusta with ephedrine/synaptazine
6) High potency killer tomatoes as meat shields
7) Bioluminescent high potency Ambrosia gaia on the head produces a lot of light and extra can be thrown to illuminate the area to easily find your way back to the base.

Also, lifebringers can mass produce strange reagent with holy pumpkin, deus, and mutagen components, even getting it in a single plant.

Edit: Planting glowshrooms outside the pod is a good idea, as every lavalander can benefit from your help immensely and they can check generation to be sure they're heading toward you.

Also, by sharpening a carrot it should be possible for a podperson to have a full set of ghetto surgical tools and with multiple podpeople you could potentially steal the lungs of a dead ashwalker and implant it, removing the need for the podperson to breathe. Anyone going to explore should save some blood samples and use replica pods periodically to try to revive a missing podperson who is likely to have met an untimely demise.

Lifebringers and golems working together would be able to rapidly mass-produce golem cores by welding metal rods from steelcaps as well as make cloth, wood, and iron golems. Truthfully between golem RnD and Botany they can produce a great number of things and even take down megafauna.

Also, I've never killed a plant by trying to mutate it, so just keep spamming 5u of unstable mutagen from the bluespace beaker until it changes.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:11 am
by onleavedontatme
This thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:16 am
by Armhulen
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Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:50 am
by DemonFiren
Armhulen wrote:i bookmarked
I bookmarked before it was cool.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:37 am
by Armhulen
DemonFiren wrote:
Armhulen wrote:i bookmarked
I bookmarked before it was cool.
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Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:39 am
by tacolizard
Toroic wrote: 3) Space tobacco (high potency, everything but salbutamol removed)
There is a bug (or two) right now that make rollies and pipes useless. They will never give you any chems, so that unfortunately doesn't work. You can still extract the salbutamol via grinding and then drink it.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:57 am
by Lazengann
You can eat the tobacco

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:25 pm
by tacolizard
Lazengann wrote:You can eat the tobacco
best solution is to grind and remove everything except the nicotine and salbutamol, because eating it plain will make you fat

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:30 pm
by Toroic
tacolizard wrote:
Lazengann wrote:You can eat the tobacco
best solution is to grind and remove everything except the nicotine and salbutamol, because eating it plain will make you fat
Actually, you can remove the nutriment and nicotine from the seed, add capsaicin, pierennial growth and get a plant you can mass produce that will let you space walk. Salbutamol alone is sufficient for lavaland exploration.

Also, after some code diving it appears that venus man eaters produced by flowering kudzu are part of the vine and plant faction and thus should ignore podpeople.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:26 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
You can screw, crowbar & screw the chem-master board (and fridge boards) to adjust their function between medicine & food, and then if you make a lot of salbutomol (via densified chemical plants etc) you can bottle it all up using the bluespace beakers into a full pill jar.

So you get salbutomol that'll last you a little while, without getting fat or consuming too much nutrition on having to chew leaves, and multiple pills bottles for different occasions can be stored on the medical belts. (as well as stored inside the smartfridge set to hold chemistry stuff)

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 6:41 pm
by Jacough
D&B wrote:Planting kudzu is a first row ticket to megafauna in your base city
Would life bringers get in trouble if they managed to sneak some seriously fucked up Kudzu into the mining base or is it one of those ghost roles where anything goes?

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:42 pm
by Toroic
Jacough wrote:
D&B wrote:Planting kudzu is a first row ticket to megafauna in your base city
Would life bringers get in trouble if they managed to sneak some seriously fucked up Kudzu into the mining base or is it one of those ghost roles where anything goes?
They're meant to be benevolent and bring life to the ashland.

In theory making and releasing an oxygen producing transparent space protecting kudzu would be very much appropiate RP for them, and it would take a lot of time and effort to make "seriously fucked up kudzu". The easiest way to make kudzu a nightmare is actually just making it high potency and letting it mutate. It quickly burrows into everything and will have large dangerous sections.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:59 am
by Hzb91881
Damn, Gaia nerf hurts a lot.

Re: Lifebringer tips and tricks

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:52 pm
by oranges
Kor wrote:This thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
I don't like you enjoying someone else playing the game in a way that is different from how I play