/tg/Station 13

Bottom post of the previous page:

why would you include assistants in that....

NikNakFlak wrote: People who pretend to be an antagonists like "absorbing" people or yelling out "nuke ops"

fake ic in ooc will never not be funny.

As AI:
- Wizards, Nuke Ops, and Wraiths that kill me in a manner I have zero defense or warning it is coming. Any antag that chooses to kill me instead of sharing the fun and subverting me instead, really.
- Cyborgs that behave like Greytiders and do not even bother to talk to me on binary.
- Law 1 and Security. I hate having to do the whole 'stop Sec beating and executing people' thing. I feel as if ignoring harm or executions on Sec's part would get me banned, yet putting up a fuss to stop valid-hunting Security gets my borgs locked and me lasered or carded. I cannot win there.
- People who whine and cry when I refuse them access to the Captain's office as an assistant or something similar.
- Anyone who gets angry with me for not opening doors while I am trying to deal with a Law 1 concern (I am sorry, but I do not care about letting you trespass into the Law Office to steal a suit while I am trying to bolt down a traitor with an e-sword!).
- Roboticists that prevent the automatic slaving of newly built cyborgs to me, without me giving any indication of being rogue, 'just in case'.
- People who give me horrid Law 2 orders. Stupid things such as telling me to shut up or to bolt down the Chef for stealing Pun Pun.

As Research Director
- Being ignored on the radio, requiring me to find someone and talk directly to get anything done.
- The HoP giving people access to my department without telling me.
- Virtually anyone who breaks in to steal gear and resources without a very good reason.

As Virologist
- Dealing with Cargo. It is not always well staffed, and when it is, the staff put me through so many loops to get a virus crate that I would be better off getting Liver Enhancer on my own.
- CMOs that ask me to cure the flu and cold before I am approved a virus crate.
- The limited plasma supply on the Box map.
- People declining an injection of my purely beneficial virus, usually with no negative symptoms whatsoever.
- Being blamed for random event virus outbreaks.

"Cyborgs that behave like Greytiders and do not even bother to talk to me on binary."

Lock it down then, that should get it's attention. If it still refuses to acknowledge you but will scream over radio that it's been locked down, have someone go check it's shit.

I always assume if a borg won't acknowledge it's AI that it's rogue.

Bad wrong meta, the meta that won't even find an antag and can potentially be round ruining.

I mean once had a member of command staff who would beat people on the basis that lings regenerate so obviously they need to do it right after you hurt them, right sure good job injuring everyone I brought in now I feel terrible.

Incomptinence wrote:Bad wrong meta, the meta that won't even find an antag and can potentially be round ruining.

I mean once had a member of command staff who would beat people on the basis that lings regenerate so obviously they need to do it right after you hurt them, right sure good job injuring everyone I brought in now I feel terrible.

A long time ago, back on Uterus-station, I remember a security guard who murdered the chef because someone found human gibs in space.
Why? Well, because the chef has a cleaver that can gib people! (Except that's on gooncode)

People who suicide at the start of the round as anything other than Assistants. You picked the fucking job, so stick with it!
Antags running around in plain sight with Security doing nothing about them.
The Captain and/or HoP fucking off into space at round start.
Security arresting me for being in a place I am authorized to be.
People blocking off Escape as non-antags.
Metafriends.
Being arrested and the arrester going braindead in the middle of the brig.
Cult/revs killing other cult/revs.
People with non-Help intent running around (unless the station is currently under attack).
Security looting prisoners.
Chemists giving you acid/toxins instead of medicine. Even if they are traitors, that's just bad form.
Bartenders who think they're Security and never step foot in the bar.
Security calling me a greytider when I'm just trying to be a helpful assistant with a full tool belt.
People throwing toolboxes at me in the hallway for no raisins.
People who break into Robotics/Xenobiology/Genetics/Virology and expect to be treated as anything other than a volunteer test subject.

>People who suicide at the start of the round as anything other than Assistants. You picked the fucking job, so stick with it!
>You picked the fucking job
>You picked

oh nonono

that's the rng that handles assigning jobs to players. It's entirely possible for people to get jobs no where related to what their preferences were. Furthermore, it is very likely that the rng chooses a job the player specifically didn't want when it chooses a job that wasn't a preference.

imblyings wrote:>People who suicide at the start of the round as anything other than Assistants. You picked the fucking job, so stick with it!
>You picked the fucking job
>You picked

oh nonono

that's the rng that handles assigning jobs to players. It's entirely possible for people to get jobs no where related to what their preferences were. Furthermore, it is very likely that the rng chooses a job the player specifically didn't want when it chooses a job that wasn't a preference.

Only if you choose to get a random job if your preferences are unavailable.

Choose 'be assistant' and then suicide if you don't get any of the jobs you want, don't fuck up someone else's department man.

People who steal the Clown/Mimes mask.

You only get one. Ever. Sec never listens to clowns/mimes, its even worse if someone from there takes it.

Likewise, people who sign up for Mime to play dress up

When was the last time cargo willingly accepted anyone's request, let alone the clown or mime?

bandit wrote:When was the last time cargo willingly accepted anyone's request, let alone the clown or mime?

"Yeah, whaddya want?" -JW

Robotics being allowed to name-grief borgs / borgs* not being allowed to simply name themselves.

(*= I know the borg that spawns at roundstart has that special snowflake privilege over all other)

I just HATE it, it is without a doubt THE.SINGLE.WORST.FEATURE in the game.

People flip their shit if some update randomizes all characters and many try to have a consistent name for whatever role they play. But Borgs are completly at the mercy and competence of the Roboticist when it comes to their names.

Yes I realize that pretty often the Roboticist is both willing and able to just give you your goddamn name, but very often they just forget it and stuff your MMI in or they give you some stupid insulting name or they just screw up your regular name.

And I fucking hate how almost nobody seems to understand how frustrating this is. Many people say "Just pray, most admins will change/correct your name." well that's simply not true because it has only worked twice for me so far during the 2 1/2 years I've played so far.

And then there're the people who say that it's a good thing, because borgs are supposed to be "punishment" jobs, completly ignoring that the vast majority of all borg players are volunteers who more often then not rush to Robotics to be borged at the start of the round.

There's literally no good reason as to why a borg cannot simply customize his own name when the MMI is inserted into the body.

It just doesn't even make sense on any level at all. You can name the robots whatever you want, but why would you ever give the power to name a player to another player?

Really the only reason this stupid rule exist is that it is valid and legit, coder and admin approved grief.

And I also know that many people are just like "Durrrr it's just a name you autistic faggit, duurrrr" and that may be true and if you don't care that's your deal, don't force others who do care to suffer for it.

But I've been ranting about this stupid rule for nearly 2 1/2 years now...

dionysus24779 wrote:-snip!-

*whistles*

Engineers who take the hardsuits before the emitters are even on and just leave
Engineers who aren't planning on doing solars/a space project yet still leave engineering with the suit in general
Engineers who pick engineer literally only to play assistant with free gloves and toolbelt
Engineers who won't fucking fix breaches in high traffic areas and instead want to sit in the bar in full hardsuit doing nothing.
Engineers who don't lock the lockers, especially the glove one.

When folks steal/don't return surgery tools. SERIOUSLY YOU FUCKS IF YOU NEED A WEAPON TAKE THE DRILL IT'S JUST AS GNARLY AS THE SAW AND SCALPEL.

How much damage does the drill do, actually? Though I don't steal surgery tools.

Not as much as the circular saw.
That is the most robust 1h non antag weapon.

ColonicAcid wrote:Not as much as the circular saw.
That is the most robust 1h non antag weapon.

Not on NT Code, thanks gang weapons update.

The circular saw does 15 brute, the same as the null rod and butcher's knife, and you can get a butcher's knife from a hacked silverware vendor, and that fits in your pocket IIRC where the circ saw does not.

Most people who steal from surgery are changelings who need to debrain, though, right?

but you can easily use ghetto tools
the armblade works as a saw in the debraining process

Psyentific wrote:

ColonicAcid wrote:Not as much as the circular saw.
That is the most robust 1h non antag weapon.

Not on NT Code, thanks gang weapons update.

which is amazingly stupid that you can literally get a 16 brute weapon by taking a wrench to the tables in primary tool storage.

miggles wrote:but you can easily use ghetto tools
the armblade works as a saw in the debraining process

True but if someone stumbles upon your little debraining nook GG LING, and ghetto surgery just takes longer.

Yeah so, it shouldn't be without risk.

10+ prayers going unanswered when there's two admins on.

dionysus24779 wrote:-snip-

ask the roboticist to set your name to what you want.
if he doesn't do that he's a butt and you can go annoy him for the rest of the round.
ask the RD to give you a namechange board.

i will never give away my privilege to name borged prisoners BUTTMEISTER 9000

Miauw wrote:

dionysus24779 wrote:-snip-

ask the roboticist to set your name to what you want.
if he doesn't do that he's a butt and you can go annoy him for the rest of the round.
ask the RD to give you a namechange board.

i will never give away my privilege to name borged prisoners BUTTMEISTER 9000

If you break in/act like an asshole about me borging you, I reserve the right to name you something horrible.

Thunder11 wrote:10+ prayers going unanswered when there's two admins on.

>expecting prayers to be answered when you spam them

Protip, if they don't answer the first or second, it's not happening, they're probably too busy setting up clown bombs to mess with you.

Traitors with Exchange objectives who dick me over when I try to set up a trade for their folders, and when the round's over it turns out it wasn't even their objective to.

>Sec officers raiding brig lockers before checking lockers in thier departments.
> Wardens that don't update records
> Officer that don't informing Warden about crimes of they guy they asking to set to arrest
> Assistants breaking into EVA/cap office/hop's office etc to take some "sweet loot"
> Assistants whining about me taking their gloves and tools after they tried to break into EVA
Read fucking Brig Procedures in Space Law: Confiscate any contraband and/or stolen items, as well as any tools that may be used for future crimes(don't tell me you're not going back to the same door)
> Assistants breaking into brig with NEW set of tools to take back the old set of tools i took from them before
> Assistants stunning me in hallways thinking i'm walking around with their toolbelt in backpack
> Assistants breaking Attacking HoP what whatever reason
> Assistants

tolstovskiy wrote: > Assistants

This. And clowns who are annoying and obnoxious.

People who see blue APCs and immediately scream OMFG MALF. Stop metagaming, you faggots.

Thunder11 wrote:10+ prayers going unanswered when there's two admins on.

I think there's a command that enables or disables whether an admin even hears prayers in the first place. Probably because most prayers are fucking stupid, like asking for antag or high power weapons or something.

Whenever the station's gone to shit and I send a Centcom message for the nukecode no one ever replies.

Roboticists that take the flashes from tech storage.

leibniz wrote:Roboticists that take the flashes from tech storage.

who knows, maybe they use them for an extra borg head

Kraso wrote:

leibniz wrote:Roboticists that take the flashes from tech storage.

who knows, maybe they use them for an extra borg head

Yeah, there are only 9000 flashes in robotics at roundstart, that is totally not enough for an average round.
And with 1 minute of RnD effort, you can print more synthetic flashes.

Question is: Why do *you* need that flash as a non-robotocist, hmm?

engineers have access to tech storage and I solemnly believe that in lieu of stunprods, engineers should be free to choose flashes as their weapon of choice against thieves or saboteurs targeting engineering.

but honestly there's not much to it apart from who gets it first wins.

What Imblyings said, the Roboticist has the "most" claim to the flashes in Tech Storage, however that claim is flimsy at best. It's a first come first serve basis, though in my opinion most people with Tech Storage access are already in a position to make a better weapon (Or already have one).

poorly done characters with retarded quirks

hardcore rp'ers

Depressed characters. It's a shitty gimmick/character arc, can't you come up with something other than "woe is me" or "I can't do anything right"

Especially considering contractual immortality - You'd think being suicidal would be entirely pointless when you pop out of a cloning tube in centcomm five minutes later.

People looting and breaking departments to extreme degrees. Nothing worse than arriving in medbay and fiding out that the entire medbay storage is gone, chemistry has multiple deconstructed walls and no beakers at all and surgery is missing all tools.

There is no way to do real teaching vids for SS13 for difficult tasks which require a lot of trial and error to learn or someone to teach you.

The wiki dosent count most newbs dont think of that.

Round trip ping-pong took 19 seconds.
Round trip ping-pong took 13 seconds.

during a nuke round
this just goddamn happened

When I put somebody at gunpoint with a lethal weapon and they trigger enough shots to kill them, then start bitching about it. Is it REALLY so hard to understand what that glowing crosshair on you means? Is the big red message so hard to read?

When people attack borgs, then yell BORGS ROGUE when they get dunked for it.

Then when the RD blows the borgs without asking "What'd they do?"

When people attack other people who are visibly armed and armored. When an assistant tries to disarmspam the QM, who is wearing Ablative, Baton, and Combat Shotgun, all three of which are highly visible on the sprite.

I mean c'mon. There's a point at which you start to cross into darwin award territory, and attacking someone wearing a giant fucking shotgun is pretty far past that.