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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Scott » #102294

Bottom post of the previous page:

Steelpoint wrote:The reasons are two fold.

Firstly its a aesthetic, cat people are usually just stereotypical, unimaginative, slough that is the cornerstone of anyone without a shred of creativity.

Secondly the Space Station 13 community has a very bad history, current and past, with non-humans that resemble typical furries, and these changes will invite them into our community and, while it might sound elitist for me to say, I do not want those kind of players on /tg/station.
It's not elitist.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Cheridan » #102298

mosquitoman wrote:There's a lesson here.

First it starts as a regular PR. It's rejected after most people are opposed to it. Then it gets reactivated as an "admin-only" thing. Then an "unfortunate bug" not only causes the whole "admin-only" restriction to be null and void, it also puts cat ears on your character after every round and you have to get rid of them manually. So a change that nobody wanted somehow ended up in the game and is actually enforced against the wishes of the majority of players. As sneaky as USA politics and their "freedom" and "patriot" acts.
also lmao i'm sorry but if you seriously think there was some grand conspiracy to intentionally turn the whole playerbase into yiffy catbois then you need to flip your tinfoil hat's brainwave modulator off the 'stupid' setting.
Steelpoint wrote:Firstly its a aesthetic, cat people are usually just stereotypical, unimaginative, slough that is the cornerstone of anyone without a shred of creativity.

Secondly the Space Station 13 community has a very bad history, current and past, with non-humans that resemble typical furries, and these changes will invite them into our community and, while it might sound elitist for me to say, I do not want those kind of players on /tg/station.
(Well you're completely right which is why I had Ricotez make the cat options unavailable, but christ people act like its the end of the world)
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Steelpoint » #102299

I think the reason why people are being very vocal and somewhat aggressive is that its not uncommon for these kind of issues to drag along and never be resolved until the next crisis that involves it.

Being loud tends to get people's attention far easier than being polite.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Cheridan » #102311

No it doesn't. It's the internet. You don't have to shout over people. That's just a meme excuse put up by people who want to justify acting like a shit. I had to block someone from github because he spammed the PR comments with vulgarities and images of decapitated human heads. HAHA YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HIS VOICE WAS HEARD
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Steelpoint » #102313

Cheridan wrote:No it doesn't. It's the internet. You don't have to shout over people. That's just a meme excuse put up by people who want to justify acting like a shit. I had to block someone from github because he spammed the PR comments with vulgarities and images of decapitated human heads. HAHA YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HIS VOICE WAS HEARD
Your just proving my point that its easier to act and communicate in a aggressive manner than otherwise.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Cheridan » #102314

Steelpoint wrote: Your just proving my point that its easier to act and communicate in a aggressive manner than otherwise.
OR you're interpreting aggression where there was none directed to you so you can be snooty and take the high ground and 'prove' your point. Me using caps is apparently as aggressive as posting decapitated heads and death threats!
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Steelpoint » #102315

Intent translates poorly across the internet, irrespective I've said this before in similar circumstances but we have a history of pushing through changes that more people don't want than those that do. Hence why people can be aggressive in these very circumstances.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #102320

Cheridan wrote:
Steelpoint wrote: Your just proving my point that its easier to act and communicate in a aggressive manner than otherwise.
OR you're interpreting aggression where there was none directed to you so you can be snooty and take the high ground and 'prove' your point. Me using caps is apparently as aggressive as posting decapitated heads and death threats!
He didn't say that, but yes, your last two posts in this thread are extremely agressive. They just don't go up to "Fuck That Guy(tm)"-level like whatever-the-fuck-his-name-was who posted the ISIS atrocities. Agression is a sliding scale, not 'Zenlikecalm -> War Criminal'
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by peoplearestrange » #102325

Steelpoint wrote:The reasons are two fold.

Firstly its a aesthetic, cat people are usually just stereotypical, unimaginative, slough that is the cornerstone of anyone without a shred of creativity.

Secondly the Space Station 13 community has a very bad history, current and past, with non-humans that resemble typical furries, and these changes will invite them into our community and, while it might sound elitist for me to say, I do not want those kind of players on /tg/station.
Yeah imagine if they ended up putting in stupid job roles, like I dunno? A clown or a mime or something, that be stupid :V
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Ricotez » #102350

Of course I don't give in to death threats and other underhanded tactics like that, but that doesn't mean I enjoy receiving them. That also wasn't the problem, it was an isolated incident from someone who is pretty infamous among the administration for being an irredeemable twat, and I reported them to Github who suspended their account. It wasn't a great experience but it's not something that keeps me awake at night.

I tried to listen to the majority vote, and because it's impossible for me to magically know the opinions of everyone in the community, I used the PR to gauge that vote.

I have explained this time and time again. I feel like I'm screaming at a wall.

It's why I originally closed the PR and then opened it again. It's also why, in the end, we went with a config option that would be set to off by default. We didn't want to lose the code but the change was just too controversial to allow at round start.

Now it's something admins are only supposed to use as a joke or for special events, that is why I keep saying I think cat people should be valid. But the admins should listen to the community to decide upon a policy.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by invisty » #102359

Steelpoint wrote:Secondly the Space Station 13 community has a very bad history, current and past, with non-humans that resemble typical furries, and these changes will invite them into our community and, while it might sound elitist for me to say, I do not want those kind of players on /tg/station.
This sounds like borderline bigotry to me, but perhaps you can better elaborate by telling me why I might be a kind of player you don't want on /tg/station?
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by PKPenguin321 » #102538

Cheridan wrote:but even if it was, why is that such a big deal?
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Sunturner Shadowbloom says, "X3 tee hee nyaa nyaa desu desu kawaii nyaaa~!! silly scientist, we're here to be kitty cats, not fight monsters! oh no! monsters are scary, nyaaa~!!"
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Sunturner Shadowbloom makes an exasperated face, sticking out her tongue and squinting her eyes tightly. she gets u pfrom her locker and does there paces around it before wagging her tail at u! :3
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by peoplearestrange » #102564

There's some fitting idiom for this... something about moles or mountains? maybe something about hills?
Whatever
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oranges wrote:singulo.io is the center point of rational and calm debate, where much of tg's issues are worked out in a fun and family friendly environment
miggles wrote:it must have been quite the accomplishment, killing a dead butterfly
WeeYakk wrote:If you take a step back from everything watching the community argue janitor related changes is one of the most surreal and hilarious things about this game. Four pages of discussing the merits of there being too much or too little dirt in a video game.
Operative wrote:Vote PAS for headmin! Get cucked and feel good getting cucked.
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NikNakFlak wrote:Excuse you, I was doing intentional bug testing for the well being of the server. I do not make mistakes.
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This is my moment, what are you doing?!
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callanrockslol wrote:all you have to do is ban shitters until the playbase improves/ceases to exist, whichever comes first.
IM TRYING
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Kor wrote:
confused rock wrote:...its like if we made fire extinguishers spawn in emergency boxes and have them heal you when you put out fires rather than them being in wall storages...
Are you having a stroke
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by TheNightingale » #102582

How about this?:
-You can only play a catperson if you can make cat puns catpun. I mean, happen. It's fur the purrposes of ameowsment, beclaws who doesn't like cat puns?
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by DemonFiren » #102587

Most of those were pussy-tier, though.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by TheNightingale » #102604

They weren't furnny on purrpose, just to demeownstrate some sub-purr cat puns.
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Post by Remie Richards » #102699

peoplearestrange wrote:There's some fitting idiom for this... something about moles or mountains? maybe something about hills?
I think it's "Don't make big rocks out of small mounds of dirt"
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Gun Hog » #102705

Remie Richards wrote:
peoplearestrange wrote:There's some fitting idiom for this... something about moles or mountains? maybe something about hills?
I think it's "Don't make big rocks out of small mounds of dirt"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mo ... a_molehill yay for Google!
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Remie Richards » #102707

Gun Hog wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:
peoplearestrange wrote:There's some fitting idiom for this... something about moles or mountains? maybe something about hills?
I think it's "Don't make big rocks out of small mounds of dirt"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mo ... a_molehill yay for Google!
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by WJohnston » #102708

I personally agree with the others in that cat ears are really terribly uncreative, and it only gets worse if people actually do go "nyah~".

Granted, lizard people are also terribly generic, and I accept that even though I did lots of sprites for em. I'd just as happily go for something significantly less human or humanoid as an alien, but there's real technical limitations there that likely won't receive support.

I also think that the basically completely negative response from everyone in this thread, even coming from those who began neutral and gave it the benefit of the doubt, speaks volumes of how little support there is for this.

If you want some custom human features like lizards have, then scars, jewlery(?), and tattoos will make a lot more sense and be much less intrusive.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by rdght91 » #107792

Stickymayhem wrote:Too late I already poured petrol on the server I'm ready to drop the match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by peoplearestrange » #107800

Way to bring back a dead thread...

Whatever
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oranges wrote:singulo.io is the center point of rational and calm debate, where much of tg's issues are worked out in a fun and family friendly environment
miggles wrote:it must have been quite the accomplishment, killing a dead butterfly
WeeYakk wrote:If you take a step back from everything watching the community argue janitor related changes is one of the most surreal and hilarious things about this game. Four pages of discussing the merits of there being too much or too little dirt in a video game.
Operative wrote:Vote PAS for headmin! Get cucked and feel good getting cucked.
TheNightingale wrote:I want to get off Mr. Scones's Wild Ride...
NikNakFlak wrote:Excuse you, I was doing intentional bug testing for the well being of the server. I do not make mistakes.
Fragnostic wrote:stop cucking the first shitshow ever that revolved around me.
This is my moment, what are you doing?!
Anonmare wrote:Oranges gestures at the thread, it shudders and begins to move!
Saegrimr wrote:
callanrockslol wrote:all you have to do is ban shitters until the playbase improves/ceases to exist, whichever comes first.
IM TRYING
Screemonster wrote:hellmoo is the mud for grown adults who main reaper in overwatch
Kor wrote:
confused rock wrote:...its like if we made fire extinguishers spawn in emergency boxes and have them heal you when you put out fires rather than them being in wall storages...
Are you having a stroke
bandit wrote:you are now manually GLORFing
MrStonedOne wrote:The best part about the election is when I announce my pick because I'm just as surprised as everybody else.
PM:[USER]->IrishWristWatch0: Yeah, im make it on but how im make the station to to sun and not go to sun

OOC: Francinum: Five Rounds at PAS's
"You are destinied to defeat Dr. Uguu and his 5 Robot Masters
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by rdght91 » #107808

Youtube poop thread? Youtube poop thread.

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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Ricotez » #107810

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MimicFaux wrote:I remember my first time, full of wonderment and excitement playing this game I had heard so many stories about.
on the arrival shuttle, I saw the iconic toolbox on the ground. I clubbed myself in the head with it trying to figure out the controls.
Setting the tool box, now bloodied, back on the table; I went to heal myself with a medkit. I clubbed myself in the head with that too.
I've come a long ways from asking how to switch hands.
Spoiler:
#coderbus wrote:<MrPerson> How many coders does it take to make a lightbulb? Three, one to make it, one to pull the pull request, and one to fix the bugs
Kor wrote:The lifeweb playerbase is primarily old server 2 players so technically its our cancer that invaded them
peoplearestrange wrote:Scared of shadows whispers in their final breath, "/tg/station... goes on the tabl..."
DemonFiren wrote:Please, an Engineer's first response to a problem is "throw it into the singulo".
tedward1337 wrote:Donald Trump is literally what /pol/ would look like as a person
CrunchyCHEEZIT wrote:why does everything on this server have to be a federal fucking issue.
Saegrimr wrote:One guy was running around popping hand tele portals down in the halls before OPs even showed up and got several stranded out on lavaland.
The HoP just toolboxes someone to death out of nowhere, then gets speared by a chemist who saw him murder a guy, then the chemist gets beaten to death because someone else saw him kill the HoP.
Tele-man somehow dies and gets its looted by an atmos tech who managed to use it to send two nuke ops to lavaland, who were then surrounded by several very angry people from earlier and some extra golems on top of it.
Captain dies, gets cloned/revived, lasers the guy holding the disk into crit to take it back.
Some idiot tries to welderbomb the AI hiding out at mining for no discernible reason.
Two permabans and a dayban, i'm expecting a snarky appeal from one of them soon. What the fuck.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Cheimon » #107815

Speaking of catpeople, it turns out Bothans are furry mutants, albeit a bit more lion-ish.

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Maybe it's not as un sci-fi as I thought, though I'd still rather have Mon Calamari on the station.
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Re: Cat Ears/Tails

Post by Cheridan » #107861

Cheimon wrote:Speaking of catpeople, it turns out Bothans are furry mutants, albeit a bit more lion-ish.

http://i.imgur.com/75U30bH.jpg

Maybe it's not as un sci-fi as I thought, though I'd still rather have Mon Calamari on the station.
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