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Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:48 pm
by Ricotez
Bottom post of the previous page:
Well, one early decision that you will have to make is whether you'll keep human sprites static like they're now, or animate them. Currently, animating human sprites in /tg/station13 would be too much of an effort because you'd also have to animate
every piece of clothing that already exists. But if you agree on animated sprites from the start in SS14, you will raise your workload but not run into this problem further down the line.
You'll have to settle for a general style for the game too. I made these little sprites a while ago:
But although the saturated colour palette and dark (not black) outlines might work, I don't really think these proportions are suitable for SS13/14.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:02 pm
by Malkevin
Theres a 3D remake already in the works called Centrition, its going about as well as you'd expect a SS13 remake to be
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:37 pm
by Antimattercarp
Wasn't they working on taking the sprites from existing 3D model rigs so they only have to make a texture instead of animate every little bit?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:43 pm
by danno
Centration doesn't even qualify as a remake tbh, it doesn't really qualify as anything at all.
A 3d remake would work if it was on the same top-down 2d plane the game is on now. A full 3d remake wouldn't even be the same game at all.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:51 pm
by Prophoem
Allready asked about graphics on there forum. Well see how it goes from here.
I sorta wish that Supernorn would have left the graphics in because now the allready small teams are all going to have to make there own art and it will take even longer to get a decent game out for people to play.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:21 pm
by paprika
We should just use our current assets from /tg/ and baystation, and if people offer to remake them, let them
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:37 pm
by Bombadil
Phalanx300 wrote:
They also said their art guy wanted to use them for other projects. Its a shame though.
HE IS THE ART GUY
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:53 am
by DanielRatherman
In my opinion, the art of a remake should be 64x64 high-res remakes in the classical style of the current assets. retooled for more consistency and better quality/unified color schemes, perspectives, etc.
Something like this?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:59 am
by Ricotez
that doesn't look half bad actually, where did you get that?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:22 am
by DanielRatherman
my ass, I do some spritan
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:36 am
by Ikarrus
I think #spaceart is always looking for more help if you want to pitch in.
I think they already decided to go for 64x64
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:39 am
by DanielRatherman
Where does one find that? I have the template for that guy and wouldn't mind putting out the base and a few simple outfits for a start.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:41 am
by Ikarrus
irc://irc.rizon.net/spaceart
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:58 pm
by Prophoem
For anyone still courious we are using 3D that will look 2D there is a explanation for it on #Spacebus that Ikarrus pointed out.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:04 pm
by Remie Richards
Prophoem wrote:For anyone still courious we are using 3D that will look 2D there is a explanation for it on #Spacebus that Ikarrus pointed out.
3D models converted to 2D sprites right, or has this changed?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:06 pm
by Steelpoint
Whatever the case is I look forward to seeing what becomes of this, I hope there is a good communications channel for updates and whatnot.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:33 pm
by Prophoem
Remie Richards wrote:Prophoem wrote:For anyone still courious we are using 3D that will look 2D there is a explanation for it on #Spacebus that Ikarrus pointed out.
3D models converted to 2D sprites right, or has this changed?
Yep that is the correct term. Sorry for any confusion i may have caused.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:48 pm
by Remie Richards
Steelpoint wrote:Whatever the case is I look forward to seeing what becomes of this, I hope there is a good communications channel for updates and whatnot.
Specific to SS14 we have: 2 IRC Channels, Forums, Phabricator and a Github.
All of these (perhaps besides Github) promote communication. The SS14 IRC #spacebus has had 80 people in it on one day, no idea about #spaceart
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:35 pm
by Phalanx300
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:03 am
by callanrockslol
Its going to end up being a bastardized SS13 lite with a couple of cool things but never have mules.
NEVER.
What happened to the remake that was actually going places?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:10 am
by Ikarrus
callanrockslol wrote:What happened to the remake that was actually going places?
Folded after they failed to meet their crowdfunding goals, IIRC.
This is the next best thing we have, especially now that it's open source.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 am
by callanrockslol
> $40,000
well that explains that
Ikarrus wrote:This is the next best thing we have, especially now that it's open source.
What about the one we already have.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:41 pm
by Prophoem
callanrockslol wrote:Its going to end up being a bastardized SS13 lite with a couple of cool things but never have mules.
NEVER.
What happened to the remake that was actually going places?
Well it will take a while for the remake to get the level of content we have today, but it also took about a decade for classic SS13 to get to the level of content we have today. Even then it will be better with all the freedom making our own engine gives us allowing us to do all sorts of new stuff and do them better then BYOND could ever dream of doing it. And on top of that we will be able to do all this much faster then we would with BYOND as we aren't working around the limitations of the system that is BYOND.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:39 pm
by ColonicAcid
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Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:53 am
by Jalleo
callanrockslol wrote:> $40,000
well that explains that
Ikarrus wrote:This is the next best thing we have, especially now that it's open source.
What about the one we already have.
There is a lot of issues code end which would not exist if we can control the engine the game runs on. (I havent checked in a few days but I was helping to find 3D modelers before i took a bit of a short break. I believe Nienhaus is the art manager or was last I was on a lot of stuff is moving fast.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:30 am
by Prophoem
Yeah it is going suprisingly fast actually we allready have new 3D models for placeholders and the graphics engine is being changed for a multi platform release. Also we have new sprites for all the tools and they look awesome. My favorite though is definatly the new multitool.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:50 pm
by Jalleo
Prophoem wrote:Yeah it is going suprisingly fast actually we allready have new 3D models for placeholders and the graphics engine is being changed for a multi platform release. Also we have new sprites for all the tools and they look awesome. My favorite though is definatly the new multitool.
when everyone wants to work together they do
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:59 pm
by Ricotez
Prophoem wrote:a multi platform release
If you can pull off a decent mobile client it would transform SS13.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:01 pm
by Miauw
considering the amount of cooperation that is happening, i'm beginning to suspect we're actually coding a rite to summon cthulu
Ricotez wrote:Prophoem wrote:a multi platform release
If you can pull off a decent mobile client it would transform SS13.
with even more shitlers :V
(i don't think a good mobile client is ever going to happen TBH, you can't tap precisely enough, and you sure as hell cant type fast enough)
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:05 pm
by Ricotez
yeah mobile is not a good platform for a heavily text based game like ss13
but you can always try it, it's good UI design experience
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:37 pm
by Jalleo
How about tablet instead I hear the only reason to have one at the moment is to put your cup on or using it as a paperweight.
(Or playing FTL)
The UI design for it would almost certainly fail for a mobile compared to a tablet.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:38 pm
by Steelpoint
One thing at a time.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:52 pm
by DemonFiren
So, where precisely can one find these sexy new sprites I heard about?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:07 pm
by DanielRatherman
Well here's the tools and toolbox I submitted the other day.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:21 pm
by Prophoem
Oh woah i didn't know you finished the toolbox. Dang bro them sprites so sexy.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:33 pm
by DemonFiren
Yes, I find it easy to touch myself to this.
Damn pretty.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:37 pm
by Miauw
holy shit that looks amazing
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:39 pm
by TrustyGun
The future is now
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:29 pm
by Ricotez
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:11 am
by DanielRatherman
Second draft of some medical objects I took a shot at.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:29 pm
by Loonikus
I think we are all forgetting the most important questions:
1. When is Metastation going to be remapped for this?
2. Where is Ians sprite?
3. Will there be ERP verbs? (ERP animations?)
4. Is the clown going to be in 4k resolution? If no, why not?
5. Fat sprites when?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:19 pm
by Jalleo
Loonikus wrote:I think we are all forgetting the most important questions:
1. When is Metastation going to be remapped for this? TBC
2. Where is Ians sprite? In the post beta pipeline
3. Will there be ERP verbs? (ERP animations?) probably not
4. Is the clown going to be in 4k resolution? If no, why not? Impossibru
5. Fat sprites when? We dont have sprites for humans its models then flattened to 2D
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:24 pm
by Remie Richards
Loonikus wrote:I think we are all forgetting the most important questions:
1. When is Metastation going to be remapped for this?
2. Where is Ians sprite?
3. Will there be ERP verbs? (ERP animations?)
4. Is the clown going to be in 4k resolution? If no, why not?
5. Fat sprites when?
1. Never, Worst map
2. No dog yet
3. No
4. technically with 3D models --> 2D sprites any resolution could be supported
5. Not unless we have a good way of scaling up normal animations/sprites.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:29 pm
by MMMiracles
Remie Richards wrote:
1. Never, Worst map
such heresy, spouting such haram things about the glorious map, filthy infidel.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:49 pm
by DemonFiren
Once you have found a way of scaling up, does that mean we'll get lizards?
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:57 pm
by Remie Richards
DemonFiren wrote:Once you have found a way of scaling up, does that mean we'll get lizards?
that's not even funny. get out.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:17 pm
by Malkevin
Pls borgs yes but no all seeing a-eye
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:23 pm
by Remie Richards
yes borgs yes AI is what I want.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:29 pm
by DemonFiren
Remie Richards wrote:DemonFiren wrote:Once you have found a way of scaling up, does that mean we'll get lizards?
that's not even funny. get out.
Being unfunny is half my job.
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:02 pm
by Cuboos
HURRY UP WITH THE SOUND ENGINE
Re: SS13 Remake Source
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:47 am
by DanielRatherman
Tried to make an Autolathe, or Circuit Printer or somethin.
