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Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:57 am
by Armhulen

Bottom post of the previous page:

staff of sentience when

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:16 pm
by Weepo
Add the wiring diagram for borgs to the cyborgs for dummies book available in most robotics by default so there's some reason for it to exist, alternatively add a limited version of the wiring schematics to R&D's locker which includes borg wires and some other stuff around the station.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:18 pm
by Swindly
Display the changelings' powers at the ends of rounds.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:32 pm
by Anonmare
Make airlocks fixable with metal or metal rods. My autism is getting triggered by a bunch of sparking airlocks all over the place and no way to fix them.

Increase janitor mopping speed to be faster, soap should be slower than a mop, considering mops are bigger and require water to work.

Make flashes buildable in the exofab without needing research again, it's silly that robotics can't make them roundstart despite the fact that cyborgs need them to function.

Make APCs fireproof, plasma fires are a lot more unmanageable now that they can break APCs and disable the air alarms.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:43 pm
by DemonFiren
Given that it's the panels that are sparking, make 'em fixable with cable.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:30 am
by Weepo
I agree with faster mopping and fixable airlocks

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:03 pm
by PKPenguin321
not sure how minor but
Screemonster wrote:
Davidchan wrote:[/img]

Putting a bible in a toilet's cistern should grant the ability to deconvert Cults (and maybe sling thralls) through repeated swirlies.
wrong thread holy shit

edit: fuck it, add the ability to dump beakers of stuff in there, imagine giving someone a swirlie in sulphuric acid or some shit

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:14 pm
by Armhulen
PKPenguin321 wrote:not sure how minor but
Screemonster wrote:
Davidchan wrote:[/img]

Putting a bible in a toilet's cistern should grant the ability to deconvert Cults (and maybe sling thralls) through repeated swirlies.
wrong thread holy shit

edit: fuck it, add the ability to dump beakers of stuff in there, imagine giving someone a swirlie in sulphuric acid or some shit
JESUS THAT'S AMAZING

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:45 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
Urgh, i can see the clowns putting in liquid color reagent and recolouring people's hair & faces this way. Goddamn griefing shitters.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:04 am
by DemonFiren
Just add centralised water piping to all sinks, toilets and showers.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:07 am
by Armhulen
DemonFiren wrote:Just add centralised water piping to all sinks, toilets and showers.
>atmos tech breaks the water piping

>>atmos adds romeral to the water supply, chef makes some dough

>>>atmos floods a room full of greyshits for breaking into the foyer

>>>>lizards swim through water faster than in skyrim

>>>>>endless possibilities

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:16 am
by DemonFiren
Speaking of which, also add centralised plasma piping to power ovens, the crematorium and reagent dispensers drawing from energy.

Wait, wrong thread.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:14 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
DemonFiren wrote:Speaking of which, also add centralised plasma piping to power ovens, the crematorium and reagent dispensers drawing from energy.

Wait, wrong thread.
Isn't the oven just electric? And its pretty well founded that reagent dispensers use energy via star-trek replicator science to make shit out of pure energy.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:25 pm
by DemonFiren
Yes, and they obtain that energy via miniature built-in plasma turbines because a) the engine can't output this much juice and b) shut up.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:46 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
DemonFiren wrote:Yes, and they obtain that energy via miniature built-in plasma turbines because a) the engine can't output this much juice and b) shut up.
Plasma is magic, i aint gotta explain shit. Muh pleesma turbines, literally dumber than solar panel powered coffee makers.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:55 pm
by DemonFiren
Exactly.

So, plasma piping now.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:44 pm
by Gun Hog
Add :honk: :honk: golden bike horns :honk: :honk: to the protolathe at the cost of a little gold and some bananium! :honkman: :honkman: :honkman: The horn is harmless, it just makes mobs flip. It is a good compliment to the joke items, along with trombone implant and air horn!

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:05 am
by DemonFiren
Except golden bike horns can already be made with bananium and ordinary horns.
5 sheets per horn.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:17 pm
by Gun Hog
DemonFiren wrote:Except golden bike horns can already be made with bananium and ordinary horns.
5 sheets per horn.
Oh, I did not know this. Disregard my post then!

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:49 pm
by Iatots
Let cameras take 1x1 pictures.


EDIT:
Also, if it had focus options like "ignore turf" for portrait pictures to upload on sec records that would be swell. The background being also printed on wanted posters can sometimes be unsightly.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:46 pm
by Jacough
Build-an-animal Autolathes: Lets you make stuffed animals. You can also record a message in a universal recorder then put it in the stuffed animal to make it play the message when you hug it. Emagging the stuffed animal when there's a recorder in it turns it into a grenade. Using it after it's been emagged causes its eyes to flash red three times, and then play its message before exploding. The explosion would be kind of small (maybe 3x3) but would also send burning stuffing, fabric, and shrapnel flying randomly dealing a decent mix of burn and brute damage to anything it hits.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:24 am
by FantasticFwoosh
Jacough wrote:Build-an-animal Autolathes: Lets you make stuffed animals. You can also record a message in a universal recorder then put it in the stuffed animal to make it play the message when you hug it. Emagging the stuffed animal when there's a recorder in it turns it into a grenade. Using it after it's been emagged causes its eyes to flash red three times, and then play its message before exploding. The explosion would be kind of small (maybe 3x3) but would also send burning stuffing, fabric, and shrapnel flying randomly dealing a decent mix of burn and brute damage to anything it hits.
> Exact same suggestion except its a xenobio machine and takes slabs of meat for biomatter, taking samples from mobs lets you print off new creatures as a sort of generic replacement for gold slimes which are too spammy and not fun when 5 randomly generated possibly OP mobs spawn.

Has a few generic creatures already loaded in, including 1 basic slime (to replace the grey slime core plasma reaction)

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:21 am
by AnonymousNow
Apparently cryo doesn't extinguish burning people. It should: they're being immersed in a cold liquid.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:17 pm
by kevinz000
Iatots wrote:Let cameras take 1x1 pictures.


EDIT:
Also, if it had focus options like "ignore turf" for portrait pictures to upload on sec records that would be swell. The background being also printed on wanted posters can sometimes be unsightly.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/23339

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:31 pm
by Digdugxx
When you're a ghost, you should have a verb for 'tunnel vision' mode where you only see the emotes / speech of the people if they're on your screen. I know there are individual controls for this but a general one to toggle all of it would help too.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:34 pm
by TribeOfBeavers
Digdugxx wrote:When you're a ghost, you should have a verb for 'tunnel vision' mode where you only see the emotes / speech of the people if they're on your screen. I know there are individual controls for this but a general one to toggle all of it would help too.
You can use observe to only see and hear what the person you're observing can see/hear.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:10 pm
by imblyings
reinforced lights

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:12 pm
by Weepo
imblyings wrote:reinforced lights

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:04 pm
by DemonFiren
would that make them heavies?

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:10 pm
by Weepo
DemonFiren wrote:would that make them heavies?
Carlos you FUCKER

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:13 am
by Gun Hog
Allow Traitor/Combat upgraded AIs to purchase a 'wireless cryptographic processor' to remotely emag machines as a click action (similar to how the camera mode works). I am thinking maybe ~75 CPU. Examples for usage include: Emagging the cargo console and ordering a surplus crate to drive Cargonia into chaos, emag the gravigen for the chaos thing (if it is merged), directly hacking air alarms for a more surgical flooding approach, etc.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:47 pm
by InsaneHyena
OOC: Hzb91881: fridge in kitchen should protect from nuke

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:10 am
by PKPenguin321
InsaneHyena wrote:OOC: Hzb91881: fridge in kitchen should protect from nuke
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/16112
it got turned down

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:34 am
by InsaneHyena
Nobody said anything about regular bombs, just the syndicate nuke.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:41 pm
by Steelpoint
I would suggest that if you are holding a box, such as the Shotgun Shell boxes in the armoury, and you click the ground where spare shells/bullets are lying around, that you will automatically scoop up as many shells/bullets as you can fit into the box. Similar to other servers.

Its a nice feature.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:26 pm
by imblyings
DemonFiren wrote:would that make them heavies?
REMOVE THIS LIZARD

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:32 pm
by Wyzack
Steelpoint wrote:I would suggest that if you are holding a box, such as the Shotgun Shell boxes in the armoury, and you click the ground where spare shells/bullets are lying around, that you will automatically scoop up as many shells/bullets as you can fit into the box. Similar to other servers.

Its a nice feature.

Please this

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:32 pm
by Anonmare
Fire extinguisher grenades in atmospherics, just fill them up with a large amount of nanofrost so they can be used as a way of combatting the out of control plasma fires

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:28 pm
by AnonymousNow
Not sure if they do something like this already, but if they don't: make items that have been used to commit suicide (or unique items for the purpose, like the medical wrench) have some sort of power attached to them.

Won't be abused (past the honeymoon phase like everything else) because it's not something you can empower yourself, just empower for someone else, and no-one can make you.

EDIT: Also, give RIPLEY armour a snowflake resistance (not full, but high) to xenomorph attacks. Because muh references.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:31 am
by cedarbridge
AnonymousNow wrote:Not sure if they do something like this already, but if they don't: make items that have been used to commit suicide (or unique items for the purpose, like the medical wrench) have some sort of power attached to them.

Won't be abused (past the honeymoon phase like everything else) because it's not something you can empower yourself, just empower for someone else, and no-one can make you.

EDIT: Also, give RIPLEY armour a snowflake resistance (not full, but high) to xenomorph attacks. Because muh references.
Or make them at least passably capable of combating them.


Real suggestion (I'd do it myself if I knew how): Make mechanical toolboxes printable from autolathes. Not the tools in the box, just the box. I need a ready collection of toolboxes for floorbot spam memes.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:12 am
by Gun Hog
Toolboxes already are printable in an autolathe!

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:57 am
by cedarbridge
Gun Hog wrote:Toolboxes already are printable in an autolathe!
Yes, but for whatever reason they don't work for making floorbots. Same with the yellow electrical toolboxes. If you try to add tiles to them to make floorbots you get "the toolbox is the wrong size."

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result = /mob/living/simple_animal/bot/floorbot
reqs = list(/obj/item/weapon/storage/toolbox/mechanical = 1,
The autolathe produces "Toolboxes" but the floorbot plans require specifically "mechanical" toolboxes which only spawn in certain places and cannot be produced in the lathe. Its barely a single line change to allow autolathes to produce the required toolbox, but its also just as easy to merely require any toolbox to make floorbots instead. Though doing down a step in the tree makes it possible to make floorbots out of everything classified as a toolbox and that has its own problems.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:23 pm
by XDTM
I don't think there are non-toolbox items classified as such, so that wouldn't be a problem unless you somehow use a His Grace to make a floorbot. My guess is that since floorbots are blue it was made to require blue toolboxes, but i doubt that's important.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:35 pm
by Gun Hog
XDTM wrote:I don't think there are non-toolbox items classified as such, so that wouldn't be a problem unless you somehow use a His Grace to make a floorbot. My guess is that since floorbots are blue it was made to require blue toolboxes, but i doubt that's important.
I do not think it is too immersion breaking for :toolbox: toolboxes to magically change color when used in a floorbot :tile:, you should not recode floorbots to take any toolbox until https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/23951 is merged, which changes the type path of His Grace to no longer be an actual toolbox in the code.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:56 pm
by Iatots
the yellow and red floorbot sprites already exist, someone probably just forgot to implement them 4-5 years ago or something.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:28 pm
by cedarbridge
Gun Hog wrote:
XDTM wrote:I don't think there are non-toolbox items classified as such, so that wouldn't be a problem unless you somehow use a His Grace to make a floorbot. My guess is that since floorbots are blue it was made to require blue toolboxes, but i doubt that's important.
I do not think it is too immersion breaking for :toolbox: toolboxes to magically change color when used in a floorbot :tile:, you should not recode floorbots to take any toolbox until https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/23951 is merged, which changes the type path of His Grace to no longer be an actual toolbox in the code.
Syndie toolboxes are also included in the toolbox tree. If anyone feels that terribly important as well. And now the artistics

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:22 pm
by Weepo
If you really cared about immersion you could just do a quick pallet swap for the few main toolbox types and be done with it, like with medbots.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:57 pm
by cedarbridge
Weepo wrote:If you really cared about immersion you could just do a quick pallet swap for the few main toolbox types and be done with it, like with medbots.
I think the only reason the types are even sorted the way they are is because of the way their contents are spawned. Should be easy enough to impliment the medkit method.

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:54 am
by Anonmare
Remove silicon inability to use vending machines, it's somewhat annoying to be asked to retrieve an object that can only be found in a vending machine (life spare flashes from the sec-vend for the roboticist). Plus it's not like cyborgs or AIs can use anything from the vendors and they can get rid of them pretty easy if they wanted to if there's concerns about them emptying the machines dry.

Service cyborgs should also get hydroponics tools and a manipulator that lets them interact with plants. Service cyborg needs some love

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:42 am
by Swagbringer
Change the formula requirements for skewium to not need plasma. As it currently stands this makes it difficult for chemists to make and impossible for botanists (good luck getting cargo to give up points so you can make a toxin). Make it require another chemical that botanists can grow, from a mutated plant so they cant get it so easily eg Space lube from bluespace tomatoes or mushroom hallucinogen. The botanists still need help from chemists in order to make it and the chemists still have to make about 12 reactions in order to get it, so its not like it will appear every other round with this change.

As an aside, how often do these recommendations get added to the game? Do coders/admins regularly look through these threads?

Re: Minor Suggestions

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:46 am
by cedarbridge
Swagbringer wrote:Change the formula requirements for skewium to not need plasma. As it currently stands this makes it difficult for chemists to make and impossible for botanists (good luck getting cargo to give up points so you can make a toxin). Make it require another chemical that botanists can grow, from a mutated plant so they cant get it so easily eg Space lube from bluespace tomatoes or mushroom hallucinogen. The botanists still need help from chemists in order to make it and the chemists still have to make about 12 reactions in order to get it, so its not like it will appear every other round with this change.

As an aside, how often do these recommendations get added to the game? Do coders/admins regularly look through these threads?
Skewium is already retardedly potent. I don't think making it easier to get and make will do anyone any favors.