/tg/Station 13

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So ":g absorbing AI" actually happened for a while?

- what are the best all-purpose syndie items

like, say you got 20TC and some generic objective... what do you buy

- alcoholic drinks from the bar, which is the strongest

- how many pairs of cuffs should sec carry at once

I carry three cuffs, the bare minimum of two plus one spare.

Malkevin wrote:I carry three cuffs, the bare minimum of two plus one spare.

I generally carry 3 as well. Though only 1 real set of cuffs (in internals box) and 2 zipties (one on belt one in pocket or backpack)

I dont know why anyone would use zip ties.

They're shit.

Same cuff time as normal cuffs (or if there is a difference its negligible)
They can resist out of them in only 30 seconds compared to two minutes (this by the way made beepsky useless, sure he tells you where he arrested someone but its quite possible for them to resist out of the zip cuffs before you get there), this is especially annoying when you're questioning someone and they resist out whilst you're typing.
And you can't reuse them.

Because of points two and three I pretty much don't bother unbuckle cuffing people because they can do it themselves in just as much of a time frame.


I don't care if they look more tactitool, rl SWAT uses them because they can carry a bundle of a dozen without suffering any encumperance. AFAIK zip cuffs can't be stacked.

Zipties aren't reusable and are easy to take off so you can cuff a minor nuisance with them when you have bigger fish to fry without worrying about uncuffing said nuisance later/worrying about those same cuffs being applied to you.

Whoisthere wrote:Zipties aren't reusable and are easy to take off so you can cuff a minor nuisance with them when you have bigger fish to fry without worrying about uncuffing said nuisance later/worrying about those same cuffs being applied to you.

Pretty much this. Or if its a group and Im worried about them disarming me or uncuffing their friend and then trying to re-cuff me with the then "free" pair of cuffs. Plus zip tying perma prisoners is really usefull. Can just let them resist out and dont have to retrieve a pair of cuffs, giving them no chance to dunk you.

Buckle to bed > start uncuffing > count to 2 > apply stun baton > ctrl-click cuffs > run out of cell > laugh at them calling you shit

When I'm throwing them in perma I buckle them to the bed, run out, activate the flasher, go back in, uncuff them and run out. That works for me.

Always found the stun would wear off just as I'd uncuffed them with the wall flasher

Is there a way to make a burn chamber that doesn't start cooling down as soon as the fire dies? Even sealing this in space doesn't seem to help.

Do stuff to make your burn mix in your canisters combust.

What do you mean? I'm very stoopud when it comes to atmospherics.

1. What does the experimentor do?
2. What does it take to reproduce real chem machines?

1. magic
2. you don't, you make portable chem machines and upgrade them with an RPED for more chemicals

Three miners sit around a table and eat warm donk pockets. One of them suffers mild poisoning - one of them suffers severe poisoning, from something the sleeper calls "Bad Food".

What exactly is "Bad Food", and where does it come from?

Is it maybe a reagent found in the failed meals that come out of the microwave?

Wyzack wrote:Is it maybe a reagent found in the failed meals that come out of the microwave?

This is exactly what it is.

It shouldn't be in donk pockets. Report the bug.


...We can warm donk pockets again? Hooray

Cipher3 wrote:

Wyzack wrote:Is it maybe a reagent found in the failed meals that come out of the microwave?

This is exactly what it is.

It shouldn't be in donk pockets. Report the bug.


...We can warm donk pockets again? Hooray

I'm going to try to replicate it first. The circumstances were a little more complicated, in that I was perfectly fine with my donk pocket, but the last lot of food cooked by the microwave was two donk pockets (and turned into a pile of burnt muck which nobody ate).

Also I used the smoke spell around that time...

How is the shoulder holster supposed to work? The Cowboy gun doesn't even fit in it.

How can I make my own anesthetic mix that won't kill someone? I like using it as HoS to control prisoners and for... special punishments. I tried making a 1/2 O2 1/2 N2O mix and it killed a cultist. I'd like to avoid that.

Pretty sure shoulder holster is bugged. Mostly because it looks like the bandolier and can only hold one shotgun shell

Luke Cox wrote:How can I make my own anesthetic mix that won't kill someone? I like using it as HoS to control prisoners and for... special punishments. I tried making a 1/2 O2 1/2 N2O mix and it killed a cultist. I'd like to avoid that.

internals are weird, they need to have 100% oxygen at 16kPa; 50% oxygen at 32kPa; 25% oxygen at 64kPa.. etc etc
it's a really bad idea to give someone 50% oxygen internals unless you set the tank output pressure to over 32kPa, otherwise they'll die of suffocation

if you really need anaesthetic, medbay has some in the surgery room that they never use (because surgery doesn't hurt unless your M.D sucks)
failing that, 15u chloral hydrate in a syringe gun will sedate - and 30u will kill

anaesthetic tanks are hard to mix, but if you can, 1/2 O2 and 1/2 N2O does work, so long as you set the O2 tank (the one you put in the big canister, the one that gets filled up) to ~32kPa

when they start sleeping, it's probably a good idea to take it off though
(pester RnD for a rapid syringe gun, and chem for sleep toxin or chloral; it's a lot easier)

Vigilare wrote:internals are weird, they need to have 100% oxygen at 16kPa; 50% oxygen at 32kPa; 25% oxygen at 64kPa.. etc etc

The idea is that, regardless of gas mix and the pressure you inhale it at, there has to be 16kPa oxygen in it or you suffocate. I'm not sure if that would work in real life, but it's how the math works in the game.

in real life, if you breathe in 95% N2O and 5% O2 at 320kPa (= 16kPa oxygen, 304kPa N2O), you're gonna have a bad time

filling a tank to 1014kPa pure O2 and having it output at 16kPa will make it last a loooong time

Is there any way to deconstruct firelocks? I tired every tool, even RCD doesn't work! D:

Why would you need to decon a firelock? A simple crowbar, or shift click as a silicon opens them if they're closed.
I don't think you can decon them anyway, much like shutters and blastdoors.

Apply singulo

is there any way to counter residual radiation in SS13? like, say you have 3 PAs firing at each other in a chamber as a sort of execution device, how do you keep that radiation from spreading and killing the rest of the crew?

i got 6 PAs to make one this one round but admins said 'no' and it was all for naught

PAs only irradiate you if the projectile travels over your mob, they're basically radiation guns.
Funfact: PAs have a weird bug that causes the projectile to spawn +2 tiles away from the front of the gun, meaning that the tiles directly under the Box-station PA are completely safe to move over

If I remember rightly uranium walls and the singulo are irradiate based on LoS.


Radiation is pretty snowflakey so it really depends on what you're doing.

How to ride on a Mule as a AI? Heard it was possible but not quite sure how to do it.

Unbolt yourself, get an engineering borg to drag you to the mule and then hack its loading ramp

Malkevin wrote:If I remember rightly uranium walls and the singulo are irradiate based on LoS.

It's the range of LoS, but they do irradiate through everything, including rwalls. Uranium walls hidden behind regular walls can be a real killer.

peoplearestrange wrote:Why would you need to decon a firelock? A simple crowbar, or shift click as a silicon opens them if they're closed.
I don't think you can decon them anyway, much like shutters and blastdoors.

They're fucking pugly and break my immulshions when i build best Cargo ever, just because of that one firelock in mail office.
Add a way to decon firelocks, shutters and blastdoors 2015.

Kot wrote:

peoplearestrange wrote:Why would you need to decon a firelock? A simple crowbar, or shift click as a silicon opens them if they're closed.
I don't think you can decon them anyway, much like shutters and blastdoors.

They're fucking pugly and break my immulshions when i build best Cargo ever, just because of that one firelock in mail office.
Add a way to decon firelocks, shutters and blastdoors 2015.

Because that wouldn't be abused at all... Seriouesly blastdoors and shutters need not to be breakable as part of what then need to do (90% stopping greytide). If shutters were able to be deconed there would be no way to prevent anyone breaking into the HoP's office or the bridge etc. Plus firelocks are pretty damn useful for stopping the spread of fire. If they could be deconned, most would be, because assitants will break everything they can.

Let me re-purpose a hashtag that some may know well:

#assistantsruineverything

Do stun turrets still fire tasers or disabler beams now?

Can porta turrets be built to fire disablers?

Stun turrets fire tasers afaik.
Portable turrets? Just build them with a disabler.

I'm pretty sure it targets the one activated first.

I always figured they went by proximity.

This is a question that requires a practical test.

What foods contain xeno-microbes? Like the shit that mutates people.

Anything with xeno meat used to contain it, but not anymore.

What all can you implant in yourself? Sec-lights are obvious, but I want to experiment a little. Specifically, can you implant pAIs?

Luke Cox wrote:What all can you implant in yourself? Sec-lights are obvious, but I want to experiment a little. Specifically, can you implant pAIs?

When you say implant do you be via surgery in your chest cavity? I think you can put anything that will fit in your pocket, and yes that includes pAI's.

And yes, that includes large chemnades. Because fuck explosive implants.

Also bluespace-beaker potassium-water grenades can set to trigger by prox and then hidden in a backpack. or set with moustraps and put on the floor in a box or something

How do you reach the DJ station and the white ship with telescience gone?

Do the different colored names in the vending machine menu mean anything? They can be blue, green, red or i think maybe yellow?

I always assumed it was for flavour.

Luke Cox wrote:How do you reach the DJ station and the white ship with telescience gone?

There's two possible ways:
1. Jump into space and drift until you find something, then compare it with the rest of the z-level
2. Jump into space and drift until you find what you are looking for

Luke Cox wrote:How do you reach the DJ station and the white ship with telescience gone?

If you download a copy of the source code you can open it up and see all the maps. Pretty easy to tell where you are while space drifting when you do it.

How does the gas chamber in the prisoner transfer center work? I wrench the tanks in place, set the gas pump on to maximum pressure, but the air injector does nothing. Is there something I'm not doing?