Planetside 2: Zerg Simulator

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Mon May 09, 2016 6:26 am #175037

Bottom post of the previous page:

Played with the Drunken Division NC outfit on Friday which ended up being hilariously awesome. We had a massive Vanguard convoy going, most of whom were wasted and just steam rolled over a few enemy outposts. Then we went on to Hossin while everyone was on Amerish and pissed off the few VS and TR faggots who were there by capturing basically everything, made even more satisfying by the fact that the few defenders were incompetent as fuck.
> be engineer
> camping capture point on MG turret, kind of bored
> VS heavy gunner runs right into my line of sight and starts shooting at me
> pump him full of lead as he tries strafing with his overshield thing up
> look down
> he barely even scratched my shield

gg

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon May 09, 2016 7:09 am #175047

Engineer's anti-infantry turret is stronk. Worth throwing a couple cert points at. Doesn't fair too well against maxes but can be surprisingly effective against light vehicles and ESF's. It has a neato energy shield which basically limits you to being headshotted or having someone sneak/sprint around and shoot/stab you in the ass.

Engineer's anti-vehicle turret is...not so good. It's an infinite ammo anti-vehicle weapon with fly-by-wire so it kinda makes some sense that it needs to be balanced pretty harshly. Unfortunately the projectile is way too fucking slow to be useful against anything beyond medium range...and it's got absolutely no defenses / low enough damage output that anything you're shooting it at at medium range can easily just explode the shit out of you before you can explode the shit out of it. Useful for blowing up all these newfangled structures though, and if you can find some other engineers who have it massing fire with them can annihilate armor lines. It's the old IG flashlights vs Space Marine armor doctrine. The Mana AV turret is a cheap piece of junk but if you get enough cheap junk together in one place it works out okay.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Mon May 09, 2016 7:17 am #175053

I remember getting with a platoon and getting like 60 AV turrets on a big stone archway and firing at reapers and scythes. We only hit like 20 times out of 500 shots but we killed most of what we hit.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon May 09, 2016 7:21 am #175057

I've done that too. Watching a gigantic stream of fireballs all curve and fly around mid-trajectory to chase a target is mesmerizing.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 8:19 am #175080

Currently learning to infilninja.

Sitting in one spot for ages practically invisible might not be much fun, but shanking their medics without anyone ever figuring out what the fuck happened certainly is.

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Mon May 09, 2016 8:30 am #175083

An0n3 wrote:Engineer's anti-infantry turret is stronk. Worth throwing a couple cert points at. Doesn't fair too well against maxes but can be surprisingly effective against light vehicles and ESF's. It has a neato energy shield which basically limits you to being headshotted or having someone sneak/sprint around and shoot/stab you in the ass.

Engineer's anti-vehicle turret is...not so good. It's an infinite ammo anti-vehicle weapon with fly-by-wire so it kinda makes some sense that it needs to be balanced pretty harshly. Unfortunately the projectile is way too fucking slow to be useful against anything beyond medium range...and it's got absolutely no defenses / low enough damage output that anything you're shooting it at at medium range can easily just explode the shit out of you before you can explode the shit out of it. Useful for blowing up all these newfangled structures though, and if you can find some other engineers who have it massing fire with them can annihilate armor lines. It's the old IG flashlights vs Space Marine armor doctrine. The Mana AV turret is a cheap piece of junk but if you get enough cheap junk together in one place it works out okay.

The anti vehicle turret it's great for base turrets and slow moving vehicles as long as you set it up right. Set it up right out in the open and you're gonna get fucked up real quick. Set it up in a kind of hidden area like the doorway of a building overlooking a base or a shadowy rocky outcrop and you'll be able to get off a good amount of hits before they even know you're there. The lack of a shield works both ways. You may not have a barrier protecting most of your body but you also don't have a huge glowing shield giving away your position.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon May 09, 2016 10:07 am #175105

Huh? I was always picking off long distance vehicles... and softies with the mana turret.

Just because its fly by wire doesn't mean you shouldn't lead your target first, use the guidance to make fine corrections.
Also, fire it upwards first then bring it down on target like a javelin, that way the smoke isn't in your face, seems to track better too that way.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 10:46 am #175110

I'm pretty sure it's for victory points.

I need to drive Ants more often, just let me read up on what resources show as on the map.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:35 am #175120

DemonFiren wrote:Currently learning to infilninja.

Sitting in one spot for ages practically invisible might not be much fun, but shanking their medics without anyone ever figuring out what the fuck happened certainly is.

Make sure to unlock both the Commissioner and the crossbow and swap between them depending on the situation- it'll do wonders.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 12:11 pm #175124

Drynwyn wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:Currently learning to infilninja.

Sitting in one spot for ages practically invisible might not be much fun, but shanking their medics without anyone ever figuring out what the fuck happened certainly is.
Make sure to unlock both the Commissioner and the crossbow and swap between them depending on the situation- it'll do wonders.

That's long-term planning, for now I'm saving up for the Rebel plus suppressor.

Speaking of which, weapon attachments do not transfer between compatible guns, yes?
Oh, yes. Of course not, that would discourage spending money.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Mon May 09, 2016 12:48 pm #175129

Don't get the Rebel, I have it and am NOT a fan.

It can be suppressed, but like most suppressed weapons, it's still somewhat audible when fired- it just doesn't generate a minimap blip. It also has muzzle flash. Basically, it has all the disadvantages of the Commissioner and Crossbow without really having the good points of either. The poor hip accuracy is the biggest problem, since when going for the old shoot-and-shank, you want to hip fire (There's a small delay while you un-scope if you melee directly out of ironsight aiming.)

Personally I'm a fan of the crossbow- unlike a merely suppressed weapon, it makes almost no firing noise and has no muzzle flash. Plus, it has very low range falloff and can one-shot wounded enemies (or unwounded infiltrators) on a headshot.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 1:09 pm #175131

Yes, but it's also hella expensive. Rebel at least is something I can afford, and I do most of my kills at medium-short, anyway.
Crossbow causes problems leading targets because I have issues with depth perception.

Besides, I'm thinking about sinking those 1000 certs into a Carver - 1000 points of melee damage sounds pretty sweet.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:10 pm #175153

Don't buy the carver. It'll do 1000 damage but you have to rev it up first, during which time you're visible and everyone can hear that shit. If you want to shank people as infiltrator you just two-shot them with the regular knife.

peoplearestrange · Mon May 09, 2016 2:20 pm

Anyone want to do some airwolfing?

Used to sit in a liberator with a buddy plus two support fighters. Literally own the air and support the ground like... something good in the air? I dunno Ill work on that.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:24 pm #175161

An0n3 wrote:Don't buy the carver. It'll do 1000 damage but you have to rev it up first, during which time you're visible and everyone can hear that shit. If you want to shank people as infiltrator you just two-shot them with the regular knife.

Actually, I just hopped into VR to test it.
You can literally hit F-B-LMB-B-F in rapid succession and be able to strike with 1k damage before the spin up noise even starts playing.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:29 pm #175163

I've got too much I need to do today preparing for Stellaris in the evening, otherwise I would.

I've got a pimped out Liberator for us to roll in. I've got both a couple good configurations for different targets. It's a nice cert farm.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:30 pm #175164

Now that i am back home in the great white north and more or less sobered up i can remove kebab again

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:32 pm #175166

Well, I've got work. Maybe tomorrow night we can remove - if my shitty connection permits it - but not today.
Or weekend, as usual.

Oh, and, yeah - hold on a second. Are suppressors ever worth it?

IrishWristWatch0 · Mon May 09, 2016 2:43 pm

Tuesday night ops?

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:56 pm #175173

DemonFiren wrote:Well, I've got work. Maybe tomorrow night we can remove - if my shitty connection permits it - but not today.
Or weekend, as usual.

Oh, and, yeah - hold on a second. Are suppressors ever worth it?

I can't speak for other classes, but I never use one as an Infiltrator.

Suppressors do three good things: Reduce audio volume of gunshots by a usually (though not always) inconsequential amount, prevent minimap blips, and prevent people with the Awareness implant from spotting you when you take damage.

All the megatryhardimplantusers are running Battle Hardened, so you will very rarely run afoul of the awareness implant, and even if you do, cloaking de-spots you.

The blip removal is nice, but it's not worth the muzzle velocity drop for sniper rifles, and for Stalker play, if you're in a situation where the blip would be a problem, you're almost certainly better off using the crossbow than a silenced pistol- not only is it quieter, but the longer effective range means you can strike from a safer position. And it has no muzzle flash.

I hear suppressors can be handy as a light assault, or for smg-using Hunter-cloaking infiltrators, but at least for Stalkers, the crossbow is preferable.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:05 pm #175174

Yeah, I've seen what suppressors do to sniper rifles, especially MUH RAILJACK. Ugly.

So I guess for sniping it's no suppressors, unless it's a flash suppressor once I'm done learning how to into scout rifles.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:08 pm #175175

I didn't even know you COULD suppress the railjack.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:09 pm #175176

You can, but it takes a 50.5% hit to muzzle velocity.
Fuck that noise.

Side note: isn't it pitiful how the highest-velocity rifle the NC has is outclassed by a fucking Barret M82?

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:11 pm #175177

...Why would you EVER take a muzzle velocity hit on a gun whose ENTIRE POINT is a muzzle velocity of Fuck You?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:14 pm #175179

Drynwyn wrote:...Why would you EVER take a muzzle velocity hit on a gun whose ENTIRE POINT is a muzzle velocity of Fuck You?

I wouldn't.

Unless it's the auto scout rifle and I'm operating from close to medium range. The other one, flash hider seems better.

srifenbyxp · Post by **srifenbyxp** » Tue May 10, 2016 3:30 am #175338

Whens our next pow-wow? I know stellaris just came out but I always like to give somebody a dicking personally.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Tue May 10, 2016 4:26 am #175342

Which NC AR is better than the default?

It works great at pretty much every non-sniper range if you just manually burst it, so I dunno if any of the others are a direct upgrade

peoplearestrange · Tue May 10, 2016 11:04 am

Tonight?

srifenbyxp · Post by **srifenbyxp** » Tue May 10, 2016 11:45 am #175396

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue May 10, 2016 12:15 pm #175399

Time matters none, I'll be there unless my 'net craps itself again.

Nocturnal connection seems to be awful, curiously enough.

IrishWristWatch0 · Tue May 10, 2016 12:55 pm

Takeguru wrote:Which NC AR is better than the default?

THe Carnage AR rips through people, i love it. Works great at medium range.

peoplearestrange · Tue May 10, 2016 2:19 pm

srifenbyxp wrote:at?

I'll be on around 20:00-21:00 Britfag time.
Though I think I need anon3 or someone to add me to the squad, I haven't actually booted it up in... well since it first was released (though I have updated it recently).

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue May 10, 2016 2:54 pm #175419

Well, now I'm in a crisis of faith.

Saving up for that sweet FUCK YOU rifle, and not sure if Longshot or Railjack. I mean, sure, the Longshot doesn't have a charging delay and packs more ammunition, but the Railjack deals way more damage and requires less leading and drop compensation. HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT DAYBREAK SUCKS COCKS. Seems the Railjack has the exact same drop as the Longshot, for 200m/s greater muzzle velocity and 50 extra points of damage. Fuck that.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue May 10, 2016 9:08 pm #175536

All right, so, we removing today, and when?

peoplearestrange · Tue May 10, 2016 10:01 pm

I ended up watching a documentary and didn't realise the time... now my games still updating but tbh I gotta be up at 6am so I doubt I can play tonight :/ Sorry.

EDIT: Ok so logged on... apparently I have 5000 certs... spent a bunch now I have 2500 and a bad ass liberator for max airfreedom.

Also add me: Peoplerstrange
Also shit I have done nothing on my US East NC account... everything seems to be in my EU vanu, oh well.
Also apparently I'm loyal or something.
Also I'm going to bed, die another day.

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Tue May 10, 2016 11:37 pm #175576

>5000 certs
fuck I can't even
like all of my certs/spent combined would be like 1500 and that's from like 4 years ago

peoplearestrange · Wed May 11, 2016 5:29 pm

Would also seem I have another NC soilder with around 4100 certs, so might make them a specialist in something else I guess.

IrishWristWatch0 · Wed May 11, 2016 5:55 pm

The fuck you getting all these certs from? Jesus man.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed May 11, 2016 6:05 pm #175746

IrishWristWatch0 wrote:The fuck you getting all these certs from? Jesus man.

What the fuck happened to the Railjack? I took it out in VR training and it has no charge-up time now but it has bullet drop.
Huh?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed May 11, 2016 6:53 pm #175762

An0n3 wrote:
IrishWristWatch0 wrote:The fuck you getting all these certs from? Jesus man.
What the fuck happened to the Railjack? I took it out in VR training and it has no charge-up time now but it has bullet drop.
Huh?

Just tested it, yes, very sneaky update, now reading up on it.

Nope, nothing, nada, niente, nichts. No changelog, no patch notes.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed May 11, 2016 7:48 pm #175784

I bet the Vanu did this.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed May 11, 2016 8:01 pm #175789

Well, update info sure did pull a vanushing act.

peoplearestrange · Wed May 11, 2016 9:14 pm

IrishWristWatch0 wrote:The fuck you getting all these certs from? Jesus man.

I made/had accounts from when it was first relased. I guess I been getting certs for "loyalty" or when they moved from SEO? Im not really sure, but I aint complaing

Wed May 11, 2016 10:04 pm

If you had certs in certain shit that got removed/reworked I'm pretty sure they refunded them

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:43 am #175913

Patch notes here.
No word of the Railjack, literally coderbus-tier.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:53 am #175915

DemonFiren wrote:Patch notes here.
No word of the Railjack, literally coderbus-tier.

Maybe it's been changed for a while?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:59 am #175916

Nope, tested it the night before you posted it's been changed, and it still worked like advertised.

peoplearestrange · Thu May 12, 2016 8:32 am

Shaps wrote:If you had certs in certain shit that got removed/reworked I'm pretty sure they refunded them

Ah probably that then!

srifenbyxp · Post by **srifenbyxp** » Thu May 12, 2016 8:45 am #175925

So anyone good for a zerging tonight 5/12/2016 around 5pm EST? I figure we all just huddle around in the TS server then when we zerged at each other long enough take it out on normies.

peoplearestrange · Thu May 12, 2016 9:07 am

I probably wont be on till the weekend :/

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu May 12, 2016 10:01 am #175934

1) Can't play today, got work tomorrow. Let's try weekend.

2) Yes, teamwork is OP, but not for NC.