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Timbrewolf wrote: Tanks:
You'll only get to choose between WAR and PLD. Both are very good so you can't go wrong. You might have more fun with WAR though, PLD doesn't start getting its FUN stuff until like 60+

Pretty much true, all 4 tanks preform very similarly. Main difference is in their invulns (pld has the best and drk had the worst) but they're all good overall.

Healer:
WHM is the best solo healer and good for prog. SCH is arguably better for speedruns. I prefer WHM because I fucking hate pet classes. Can't really go wrong here.

Depends what you mean by solo heal, best one for savage stuff is astro atm. But yes out of sch or whm, whm has the easier time at low levels
The main difference in the healers is their complexity and how much stuff you have to juggle and decisions you have to make. Whm is reactionary mostly. So you see someone get hit and heal them up. Sch you need to prep a bit or make decisions ahead of time as all your good heals require resources you could also use for mana/dps. So there a lot more "should I hold onto this stack to move with energy drain or does the tank need the heal to stay alive?" Ast is in between the two but with the card minigame added on.
Also Sch isnt much of a pet class anymore. You can largely park it in the middle of the fight and ignore its existance. It does have some annoying quirks stemming from the fact it's a pet though, like using skills at the wrong time cause them to go on cd with no effect. It's avoidable though. Currently in speedrun stuffs the meta is astro/whm or astro/sch. Although in non-speedrun stuff nobody cares (they often want a whm with drk though because their invuln is stupid)

Melee DPS:
MNK job satisfaction got polled as the lowest in the game across all players. So yeah avoid that? DRG is still really sought-after in end-game raiding groups because of its party-wide crit boosting ability. Prepare to die and be laughed at a lot though. FLOOR TANK. NIN makes you Naruto run and every NIN player begs for an option to turn that off while every non-NIN player laughs at you and hopes they never change a fuckin' thing.

Monk is still fine, don't be too scared off by that poll if you like the punchy monk theme. Monk basically has a bunch of positionals (has to flank the boss to the sides or back while executing certain attacks to do the most damage) so theres a lot of movement throughout the fight to optimize damage. Basically you need to put in more work for the same damage, but its worth trying out, you never know if youll really like it!
Drg is good for raid groups, as is nin (all are fine though really). Drg mostly has that reputation as a meme these dsys. They used to die to raid wides easier than everyone else (iirc) until stats were changed. That plus the animation lock on the jumps often get them killed

Non-Melee DPS:
BLM is one of the only jobs that has a lot of fun mechanics pre-50. The rotation is very simple but it SLAPS. SMN is very good too. BRD gets a spot in a lot of end-game static parties and you can toot starting at level 30. Its actual DPS output needs a buff tho.

Blm is neat, and changes a fair bit as you level. Its definitely one of the classes that gets the most love from the devs. Summoner is similar to sch in that its only kinda a pet class by the end. As you level you get stances that replace or delete the pet for a bit, so you don't have to manage it much. Although it has similar skill eating issues to sch. It's also the top dps in the current raid tier if that matters to you

Brd is actually rather unpopular these days for end game groups (you could still easily find one, i just mean bards aren't common) mostly because they got their support-y ranged dps niche stolen in 5.0 by dancer. Brd is still fine, although it has a lot of button mashing so be prepared for hurt fingers

Anyway
Some random tips to help you out:
Dont keep old gear, you can turn in dungeon gear to your gc if you really want but your inventory fills up quick if you horde things. You can put things you visually like into the glamour dresser in an inn room to use in outfits later

The npcs with blue quest markers unlock something, yellow ones are mostly just for flavour and dont really give much exp

Try legacy controls in the settings, it makes movement character based rather than camera based and lets you run backwards/turn around if you press s instead of slowly shuffling back while facing forward

If you have a fast computer getting to the Waking Sands is quicker via limsa ->arcanists guild->boat to vesper bay rather than through horizon

Crafting is fairly interesting and worth checking out

Doing the hall of the novice tutorial things gives a decent set of lvl 15 gear (that looks nice) and a ring that boosts exp gain

If you ever want to do trials/raids labeled "minstrels ballad" "Savage", "extreme" or "binding coil..." don't use the duty finder or youll wait like 36 hours to fill. People use the party finder (pf) for those sorta things as they require more coordination than randoms tend to be able to handle

If your queue times are too long as a dps try to get a healer friend or tank friend to join you, makes the queue instant usually

Don't forget to do your job quests, as there are a bunch of skills locked behind the lower level ones

^^^^^ all good advice

The crafting and gathering stuff in this game is *chef kiss*

It's a whole game unto itself and the different crafting jobs are dependent on eachother for pieces and parts.
You don't just kill a lizard for 3 pieces of leather and then click a button and watch a progress bar turn them into a pair of boots.

You gotta gather that hide, tan it to make it usable with a reagent from an Alchemist
You might need some yarn of some sort to tie it all together, which a Weaver can spin from bolls
And then finally some rubber for the sole, which your Alchemist can make from latex (or you just buy it cheap from the supply vendor fuck that)

Then you actually have to play the crafting minigame to put it all together and try to get your chance of a High-Quality craft up so it's a really good pair of boots with bonus stats.

It might sound tedious, and in some ways it kinda is, but it feels really fucking good when you're picking all these choices pieces and parts out of your dragon's horde of random mats to forge together into some cool piece of glam or bettering your gear.

To be fair the crafting minigame is pretty simple

The high quality crafts on Ishgard stuff were the first time in a long while you've had to actually be challenged by that minigame.

Qbopper wrote:progged a savage raid for the first time

ari be like [misses the button as OT]

rude

my free sub ran out so now i got a level 30 or 31 dragoon but no playtime

terranaut wrote:my free sub ran out so now i got a level 30 or 31 dragoon but no playtime

hey at least if you resub in a month or so ARR content is going to get an overhaul

yeah i cant wati to see how good the streamlining is so I can actually recommend this game to people

been playing the fuck out of this since the patch dropped

the streamlining of ARR isn't as extreme as i'd hoped but it's a step in the right direction

the new content is amazing

Qbopper wrote:the streamlining of ARR isn't as extreme as i'd hoped but it's a step in the right direction

same

If nobody has made one yet, we should make a cross world linkshell for people, I know there's a fair amount of us who play on here

WE FALL

Ive been leveling an alt a bit and they did streamline it a good amount
Probably cut like 20-30 hours out of the base game and 2.x patches
It's still pretty long and there are a couple questionable quests left but cutting much more would require reworking the flow and plot of the story in the base game unfortunately

Flying also makes post Ultima much more bearable now, especially coerthas, where I think a lot of people quit
Instead of having to slowly ride to snowcloak and back 10 times taking several minutes each time you just fly there in like 10 seconds

Patch was nice, good story content
Did pretty much everything I cared to do and sub ran out, so I'm back to waiting
New savage tier next patch I guess. Even if I don't commit to raiding it exists and is content

On mobile so I'm too lazy to quote but yeah on second thought I think the addition of flying in ARR would help the post patch quests feel a little less tedious

I'm just glad they didn't rip my heart out again

I enjoyed the hell out of it.

Alright for anyone on the aether data center we made a cross world linkshell, I did think it could be across any world but I was sadly wrong

Just ask in here / discord if you want an invite

Invite to secret club please.

Fatal wrote:Alright for anyone on the aether data center we made a cross world linkshell, I did think it could be across any world but I was sadly wrong

Just ask in here / discord if you want an invite

hope i remember this if i decide to buy a sub again
how many people are playing

terranaut wrote:how many people are playing

a lot more than I expected

Just got back into it after not playing since the third turn of Alexander released way back. Switched from DRG to RDM and am enjoying it.

Fatal wrote:Alright for anyone on the aether data center we made a cross world linkshell, I did think it could be across any world but I was sadly wrong

Just ask in here / discord if you want an invite

invite me NOW

Teya Frost, Sargatanas.

It's a pain to invite people because I have to actually join your world server to do it whilst you are online

easiest way to get an invite is to just DM me on discord when you are on the game

desperately wish we'd get a ffxiv-2 that is the same game but not on an engine with a decade of awful technical debt

if you need a prime example of how this game is a dumpster fire on the backend, look at the social features

It's often a dumpster fire in the frontend too

The website account UI looks like logging into your modem

I'm going to beat the unending coil...

I beat the unending coil today

Congratulations
Sounds hard

Yeah, it was a 17 minute fight and you get maybe 2 mistakes before a wipe. Now that I have <<The Legend>> floating by my name I get roasted for any death.

I beat the epic of alexander today

lol really dude

do any of you play tank much
how often should i be using upheaval? i can't seem to fit it very neatly in my opener

Plapatin wrote:do any of you play tank much
how often should i be using upheaval? i can't seem to fit it very neatly in my opener

literally use it on cooldown, once you hit 70 you don't need to worry about building gauge since you can just pop inner release after getting your damage buff from your first 3 hits
t. tank main

Tank main
Not warrior though, so general advice-

Use your damage-skills essentially as soon as they get off cooldown
Use mitigation when pulling big in dungeons or to stop tankbusters from making your healer cry in raids. Don't pop it all at once either, one is usually enough. Maybe two if it's current content tankbusters and your gear is bad(Or some dungeons where you can pull everything).
Figure out what rotation works well for your class and try to get the muscle memory for it on normal mode raids, practice dummies and whatever other content you do

Tank main
Play DRK

WE WAITED SO LONG PLDBROS

I'm looking forward to the AST changes, Shadowbringers got a lot right but it got AST very very wrong. I did not enjoy the new card system and I hope they make it more interesting in Endwalker.

ive jumped off the stage in every fight i can
am i playing DRG right?

wubli wrote:i woke up from my death to say my dick is on fire i want to be sage so bad Please

same lol

why would people play final fantasy xiv over final fantasy xi private servers do people just love paying square enix money for a worse game

chesse20 wrote:why would people play final fantasy xiv over final fantasy xi private servers do people just love paying square enix money for a worse game

i can't genocide raths in XI

I solo'd PotD twice.

Keep your masochistic fetishes to yourself.

going to become a drg main for 6.0 so i can micspam whalers on the moon

Get yourself a whaling glam to go with it

moons haunted

casey anthony

ThanatosRa wrote:moons haunted

moon hub or riot

i got 3 lines in wondrous tails today

i will be starting crystal tower raids later after work
i just wanna be ready for endwalker in time....

Any other Adamantoise gamers?