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Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:22 pm
by Luke Cox

Bottom post of the previous page:

Saegrimr wrote:Luke is really salty about having a thread closed.

This is probably the angriest i've seen someone that wasn't even banned.
You're completely missing the point. This is about him banning people just because he doesn't like them, and locking threads because he disagrees with them.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:26 pm
by iamgoofball
iamgoofball wrote:okay

what are those rules, where are they written, and are you going to report me to GARRY???

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:28 pm
by Luke Cox
I'm pretty sure that insulting an admin doesn't call for an instant permaban.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:32 pm
by iamgoofball
Would you like to cite the rule that says a headmin cannot permanent ban someone for insulting them?

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:51 pm
by Saegrimr
Here you go faggots I pulled logs since i'm pretty sure these were posted nowhere, at least not that I could find.

[05:33:32]ADMIN: HELP: Frettyban: captain just blew me up for literally no reason I wasn't an antag and I hadn't broken any laws - heard by 2 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[05:33:36]ADMIN: NikNakflak checked antagonists.
[05:33:57]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: looking into it
[05:34:25]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I'll let you know the AI was infact an antag, but I was NOT slaved to the AI.
[05:34:40]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: why wern't you slaved
[05:34:47]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Roboticist hacked me
[05:35:21]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I even told that to the captain but he just killed me anyways

[Cue PMs to two other players to get the full story, tl;dr valid salad]

[05:37:11]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: Captain is loud about their antag status and the captian assumed you were still slaved and didn't trust your word, I can't really punish him for that
[05:37:34]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Alright, but could I be brought back to life? I was killed unfairly
[05:38:05]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I even took steps to avoid being an antag (getting unslaved)
[05:38:21]ADMIN: ASAY: Hornygranny : dindu nuffin
[05:38:28]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Just wanted to play a quiet engieborg round
[05:39:03]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: I can't bring you back into the round for being taken out this way. You can be a drone when the spawn though, it's almost the same thing
[05:39:25]ADMIN: NikNakflak spawned /obj/item/drone_shell at (89,95,1)
[05:39:27]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: wow fuck you asshole and that faggot captain. Fucking niggers
[05:39:28]ACCESS: Logout: Frettyban[DC]
[05:39:37]ADMIN: ASAY: NikNakflak : lol
[05:39:59]ADMIN: hornygranny has banned frettyban.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:12 pm
by VincVsVincent
Spoiler:
Saegrimr wrote:Here you go faggots I pulled logs since i'm pretty sure these were posted nowhere, at least not that I could find.

[05:33:32]ADMIN: HELP: Frettyban: captain just blew me up for literally no reason I wasn't an antag and I hadn't broken any laws - heard by 2 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[05:33:36]ADMIN: NikNakflak checked antagonists.
[05:33:57]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: looking into it
[05:34:25]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I'll let you know the AI was infact an antag, but I was NOT slaved to the AI.
[05:34:40]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: why wern't you slaved
[05:34:47]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Roboticist hacked me
[05:35:21]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I even told that to the captain but he just killed me anyways

[Cue PMs to two other players to get the full story, tl;dr valid salad]

[05:37:11]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: Captain is loud about their antag status and the captian assumed you were still slaved and didn't trust your word, I can't really punish him for that
[05:37:34]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Alright, but could I be brought back to life? I was killed unfairly
[05:38:05]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I even took steps to avoid being an antag (getting unslaved)
[05:38:21]ADMIN: ASAY: Hornygranny : dindu nuffin
[05:38:28]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Just wanted to play a quiet engieborg round
[05:39:03]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: I can't bring you back into the round for being taken out this way. You can be a drone when the spawn though, it's almost the same thing
[05:39:25]ADMIN: NikNakflak spawned /obj/item/drone_shell at (89,95,1)
[05:39:27]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: wow fuck you asshole and that faggot captain. Fucking niggers
[05:39:28]ACCESS: Logout: Frettyban[DC]
[05:39:37]ADMIN: ASAY: NikNakflak : lol
[05:39:59]ADMIN: hornygranny has banned frettyban.
There's nothing wrong with this ban imo.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:30 pm
by Luke Cox
Day or week ban would have been justified, instant permaban was way over the top

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:31 pm
by iamgoofball
iamgoofball wrote:Would you like to cite the rule that says a headmin cannot permanent ban someone for insulting them?

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:43 pm
by Alex Crimson
VincVsVincent wrote:
Spoiler:
Saegrimr wrote:Here you go faggots I pulled logs since i'm pretty sure these were posted nowhere, at least not that I could find.

[05:33:32]ADMIN: HELP: Frettyban: captain just blew me up for literally no reason I wasn't an antag and I hadn't broken any laws - heard by 2 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
[05:33:36]ADMIN: NikNakflak checked antagonists.
[05:33:57]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: looking into it
[05:34:25]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I'll let you know the AI was infact an antag, but I was NOT slaved to the AI.
[05:34:40]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: why wern't you slaved
[05:34:47]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Roboticist hacked me
[05:35:21]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I even told that to the captain but he just killed me anyways

[Cue PMs to two other players to get the full story, tl;dr valid salad]

[05:37:11]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: Captain is loud about their antag status and the captian assumed you were still slaved and didn't trust your word, I can't really punish him for that
[05:37:34]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Alright, but could I be brought back to life? I was killed unfairly
[05:38:05]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: I even took steps to avoid being an antag (getting unslaved)
[05:38:21]ADMIN: ASAY: Hornygranny : dindu nuffin
[05:38:28]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: Just wanted to play a quiet engieborg round
[05:39:03]ADMIN: PM: NikNakflak->Frettyban: I can't bring you back into the round for being taken out this way. You can be a drone when the spawn though, it's almost the same thing
[05:39:25]ADMIN: NikNakflak spawned /obj/item/drone_shell at (89,95,1)
[05:39:27]ADMIN: PM: Frettyban->NikNakflak: wow fuck you asshole and that faggot captain. Fucking niggers
[05:39:28]ACCESS: Logout: Frettyban[DC]
[05:39:37]ADMIN: ASAY: NikNakflak : lol
[05:39:59]ADMIN: hornygranny has banned frettyban.
There's nothing wrong with this ban imo.
Indeed there isnt. Being a dick isnt cool. The issue is that a permaban from the server for such an insignificant thing is ridiculous. He even waited 2 weeks before appealing. This ban wouldve been removed already if it was placed by a normal admin, or if we had headmins with a shred of integrity. But nope, HG banned someone so they must deserve it.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:45 pm
by Saegrimr
The joke here is he didn't even talk shit to HG, so all of this bitchfest about MUH PRIDE MUH ABUSE is completely misdirected.

Good fucking job Luke.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:47 pm
by Alex Crimson
Saegrimr wrote:The joke here is he didn't even talk shit to HG, so all of this bitchfest about MUH PRIDE MUH ABUSE is completely misdirected.

Good fucking job Luke.
A small detail. He still permabanned the guy and instantly locked the appeal. For a fucking insult.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:48 pm
by Saegrimr
Alex Crimson wrote:This ban wouldve been removed already if it was placed by a normal admin, or if we had headmins with a shred of integrity. But nope, HG banned someone so they must deserve it.
OOPS

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YA'LL BEEN SCREAMING FOR 6 DAYS

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:49 pm
by VincVsVincent
The guy didn't even say sorry in his appeal, ding dong permabannu

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:50 pm
by J_Madison
You could always play on a server with a written constitution that prevents this, likewise you can take your money and eat at a different restaurant.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:52 pm
by Saegrimr
J_Madison wrote:with a written constitution
Shit when did John_Oxford start hosting a server?

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:52 pm
by Alex Crimson
Saegrimr wrote:
Alex Crimson wrote:This ban wouldve been removed already if it was placed by a normal admin, or if we had headmins with a shred of integrity. But nope, HG banned someone so they must deserve it.
OOPS

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YA'LL BEEN SCREAMING FOR 6 DAYS
ITS A SHAME HG LOCKED THE THREAD SO US PEASANTS WITHOUT THOSE HANDY ADMIN TOOLS DONT KNOW THE STATUS OF THE BAN. GLAD TO SEE AT LEAST ONE OF THE HEADMINS HAS A FUCKING SPINE.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:55 pm
by Saegrimr
Or you fucking nerds could stop screaming for a literal week about something and someone not even directly related to you, fucker's even been playing on the server since the unban and hasn't come back to bitch and moan like you all have FOR A WEEK.

GO PLAY VIDEO GAMES.

CAN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES BOOGEYGRAN'S GON GET ME

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:09 am
by Shaps-cloud
this is a video game

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:25 am
by oranges
J_Madison wrote:You could always play on a server with a written constitution that prevents this, likewise you can take your money and eat at a different restaurant.
John Oxford please go


Goof:
Rule 1)Don't be a dick.
We're all here to have a good time, supposedly. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little IC justification is against the rules.

Clearly HG has violated Rule 1 by ending frettyban's round with little IC justification

Please respond soonest

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:31 am
by iamgoofball
oranges wrote:
J_Madison wrote:You could always play on a server with a written constitution that prevents this, likewise you can take your money and eat at a different restaurant.
John Oxford please go


Goof:
Rule 1)Don't be a dick.
We're all here to have a good time, supposedly. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little IC justification is against the rules.

Clearly HG has violated Rule 1 by ending frettyban's round with little IC justification

Please respond soonest
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Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:57 am
by yackemflam
iamgoofball wrote:
oranges wrote:
J_Madison wrote:You could always play on a server with a written constitution that prevents this, likewise you can take your money and eat at a different restaurant.
John Oxford please go


Goof:
Rule 1)Don't be a dick.
We're all here to have a good time, supposedly. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little IC justification is against the rules.

Clearly HG has violated Rule 1 by ending frettyban's round with little IC justification

Please respond soonest
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It's pretty easy to get revived, or jump back into the round as a ghost role.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:21 am
by Steelpoint
So let me get this straight.

Player A is killed in game by Player B due to Player B only knowing a small amount of information in game that lead him to conclude Player A was hostile.

So Player A asks for Admin A to look into it, Admin A investigates the issue and finds that Player B did did not break any rules and acted with what information he had. So Admin A however offers Player A a free Drone spawn as compensation.

Player A then insults Admin A, so Admin B intervenes and bans Player A.

So now Player A is blaming Admin B for everything.

If I'm right, then Player A needs to grow up.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:49 am
by Luke Cox
The issue isn't that player A was banned, it's that they were banned for an unreasonable amount of time for the offense. This is a recurring trend with HG. Most of his bans are personal.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:00 am
by Steelpoint
Permanent bans are rarely permanent, I'm sure if Player A tried to make amends for their shitty response to the admins that the ban would be lifted.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:10 am
by Luke Cox
Too bad he never got the chance, HG immediately locked the appeal

Edit; Oh look, NikNakFlak is deleting everybody who criticizes HG

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:17 am
by DemonFiren
Not like any of it matters, since HG pretty much never reads his feedback threads, anyway.

Or anything else that expresses the wishes and desires of the playerbase.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:01 pm
by lzimann
Luke Cox wrote:Edit; Oh look, NikNakFlak is deleting everybody who criticizes HG
You know, I'll give you the benefit of doubt since you can't see the deleted posts and won't call you stupid right now.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:07 pm
by Wyzack
No he is right. If top quality shitposts like "420 nice" and "dude weed lmao" get removed then what freedom is even left

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:39 am
by Super Aggro Crag
Steelpoint wrote:Permanent bans are rarely permanent, I'm sure if Player A tried to make amends for their shitty response to the admins that the ban would be lifted.
i've been permabanned like 3 times and im still here

you just need to spend a couple months away and then come back and not be a shithead

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:42 am
by callanrockslol
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:Permanent bans are rarely permanent, I'm sure if Player A tried to make amends for their shitty response to the admins that the ban would be lifted.
i've been permabanned like 3 times and im still here

you just need to spend a couple months away and then come back and not be a shithead
or pull a 2beard and just be unbanned 20 fucking times for reasons.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:35 pm
by Steelpoint
Yeah but he's 2beard.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:03 pm
by starmute
lzimann wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:Edit; Oh look, NikNakFlak is deleting everybody who criticizes HG
You know, I'll give you the benefit of doubt since you can't see the deleted posts and won't call you stupid right now.

Honestly thats something that annoys me. Lack of player oversight into these situations. You should be able to appeal a post being deleted. Perhaps it doesn't matter but its the feeling of being unfair.

Regardless I see a bunch of "mudslinging" and personal attacks towards players and HG. Can we focus on specific issues?

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:47 pm
by ThanatosRa
Throw HG down the well
so my server can be free
he take everybodys fun
he never give it back

Everything seems find aside from absence again. Though he's at least poking his head in.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:13 pm
by ShadowDimentio
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ead#unread

Got dunked by an AI after he was caught whacking a guy in maint, had his lackeys ban them over it.

Wonderful admin.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:44 am
by oranges
He just won't die.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:33 pm
by Haevacht
Should have died of old age by now.

Re: Hornygranny

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:45 am
by TehSteveo
Oh wow, this should have been locked.