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Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:04 pm
by FantasticFwoosh

Bottom post of the previous page:

Steelpoint wrote:Boy do I love hidden features with no reference to them.

If a power cell is damaged from a explosion there should be a visual tell that its damage and a way to repair it.

I don't mind plasma sabotage, but dying because you did not know of a obscure feature with no warning is shitty.
Besides the point that its a trap, applied onto the plasma batteries and anything else it touches.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:10 pm
by Screemonster
FantasticFwoosh wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:Boy do I love hidden features with no reference to them.

If a power cell is damaged from a explosion there should be a visual tell that its damage and a way to repair it.

I don't mind plasma sabotage, but dying because you did not know of a obscure feature with no warning is shitty.
Besides the point that its a trap, applied onto the plasma batteries and anything else it touches.
he's talking about random explosion damage, not deliberate traps

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:11 pm
by Steelpoint
Yeah I'm talking about this chance where power cells exposed to damage from explosions will blow up when used.

I'm perfectly fine with sabotage being undetectable or at least being really hard to notice unless you're aware of it prior.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 4:59 pm
by XDTM
If you said the SM exploded it might've been a rogue tesla bolt

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 12:20 pm
by Remie Richards
CosmicScientist wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:Boy do I love hidden features with no reference to them.

If a power cell is damaged from a explosion there should be a visual tell that its damage and a way to repair it.

I don't mind plasma sabotage, but dying because you did not know of a obscure feature with no warning is shitty.
I don't remember if there is anything you can examine on a battery to find out either. Players don't tend to examine things anyway. But besides that, yeah I feel you but that's pretty much the game entirely and the response is always GITGUD no matter how frustrating and one off the adversity was. Technically clone damage falls under this but it's only because it has frequent exposure or at least a practiced solution (cryo) that it isn't a real problem. The battery thing just never comes up (and we don't even know if you died because of it or malicious intent) and that either makes it an interesting feature or a frustration causing crap one.

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/obj/item/weapon/stock_parts/cell/examine(mob/user)
	..()
	if(rigged)
		to_chat(user, "<span class='danger'>This power cell seems to be faulty!</span>")
	else
		to_chat(user, "The charge meter reads [round(src.percent() )]%.")

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/obj/item/weapon/stock_parts/cell/proc/corrupt()
	charge /= 2
	maxcharge = max(maxcharge/2, chargerate)
	if (prob(10))
		rigged = 1 //broken batterys are dangerous

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/obj/item/weapon/stock_parts/cell/ex_act(severity, target)
	..()
	if(!QDELETED(src))
		switch(severity)
			if(2)
				if(prob(50))
					corrupt()
			if(3)
				if(prob(25))
					corrupt()
I'll say no more.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:33 pm
by D&B
>batterys

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:34 pm
by tacolizard
Steelpoint wrote:Firstly, what can cause a APC to blow up in your face? I encountered this during a round where I was placing a new Power Cell into a APC only for the APC to explode and take my leg with it.

it could be a malf ai using Overload Machine.

Fun fact: using Overload Machine on a holopad while someone is on that holopad can crit them and can take several limbs as well.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:06 pm
by MrEousTranger
Can you remove someones heart and force feed it to them?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:20 pm
by Anonmare
MrEousTranger wrote:Can you remove someones heart and force feed it to them?
Yep, it's a good way to dispose of excess hearts as an abductor

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 6:04 pm
by Armhulen
MrEousTranger wrote:Can you remove someones heart and force feed it to them?
yes

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:36 am
by Remie Richards
MrEousTranger wrote:Can you remove someones heart and force feed it to them?
All organs are edible by default.
Just be aware, once they've been bitten once they've turned into a food object, and no longer work as an organ (ie: they lose their effects and stop working)

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:28 pm
by Limey
How many units of chemicals can I fit inside foodstuffs?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:51 pm
by darkpaladin109
So I've had this question on my mind for a while now:
How exactly do you do special moves with martial arts? Do you just have to switch between intents or do you have to also use them on something or someone?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:51 pm
by Remie Richards
darkpaladin109 wrote:So I've had this question on my mind for a while now:
How exactly do you do special moves with martial arts? Do you just have to switch between intents or do you have to also use them on something or someone?
use each intent in order on your victim.
For example, if you have plasma fist:
HARM, DISARM, DISARM, DISARM, HARM on the same person will gib them instantly.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:53 pm
by darkpaladin109
Remie Richards wrote:
darkpaladin109 wrote:So I've had this question on my mind for a while now:
How exactly do you do special moves with martial arts? Do you just have to switch between intents or do you have to also use them on something or someone?
use each intent in order on your victim.
For example, if you have plasma fist:
HARM, DISARM, DISARM, DISARM, HARM on the same person will gib them instantly.
That was fast; Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:43 pm
by Anonmare
What's everyone's favourite SM gas mixes?

I personally use 66% N2O and 33% O2 as I've found it a good compromise between power and stability. I know there are more power efficient mixes though, there was one guy who made this complicated mix but I don't remember what the percentages were but it had CO2, plasma, O2 and N2O and he got some really incredible power outage with full room temp plasma tanks.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:44 pm
by Septavius
Malkevin wrote:When I'm running through the hall, and I try to fire my taser it seems the clicks only have around a 30% chance of actually registering, does anyone else get this?
anything that uses electrodes seem to stutter.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 2:33 am
by Swindly
Limey wrote:How many units of chemicals can I fit inside foodstuffs?
That's highly variable. Each food has a different capacity.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:43 pm
by tacolizard
Septavius wrote:
Malkevin wrote:When I'm running through the hall, and I try to fire my taser it seems the clicks only have around a 30% chance of actually registering, does anyone else get this?
anything that uses electrodes seem to stutter.
It's not related to electrodes, it's all click-related actions. The default game FPS is 20 and input (afaik) is tied to client side FPS. This would mean that holding down a movement key is 'using frames' and blocking the click action so you are only firing when your click is timed on a frame that isn't being 'used'.

tl;dr it's because of the game's low framerate. If you go into game preferences and increase the framerate to like 40, 60 or 100 it will register your clicks much better. The trade off is that higher FPS's are kinda janky.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:48 pm
by SpaceInaba
is it even worth it to screwdriver the detective's revolver

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:34 pm
by D&B
If Lady luck is in your side, yeah

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:16 pm
by Anonmare
SpaceInaba wrote:is it even worth it to screwdriver the detective's revolver
That depends. Do you feel lucky? Well? Do ya punk?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:26 am
by Remie Richards
tacolizard wrote:
Septavius wrote:
Malkevin wrote:When I'm running through the hall, and I try to fire my taser it seems the clicks only have around a 30% chance of actually registering, does anyone else get this?
anything that uses electrodes seem to stutter.
It's not related to electrodes, it's all click-related actions. The default game FPS is 20 and input (afaik) is tied to client side FPS. This would mean that holding down a movement key is 'using frames' and blocking the click action so you are only firing when your click is timed on a frame that isn't being 'used'.

tl;dr it's because of the game's low framerate. If you go into game preferences and increase the framerate to like 40, 60 or 100 it will register your clicks much better. The trade off is that higher FPS's are kinda janky.
Clicks aren't dropped for moving, clicks are only dropped if you manage to do them between frames.
This is why higher framerate games feel more fluid and responsive, there's far less chance for them to miss your input.

Regardless, upping your client fps should help, yes.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 4:55 am
by MrEousTranger
What actually is "tabling" and how would one "table" another?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:57 am
by DemonFiren
>being this new

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:03 am
by nsos
answer the question or shut the fuck up you pussy bitch
MrEousTranger wrote:What actually is "tabling" and how would one "table" another?
the process of, most frequently through quickgrabbing someone, grabbing someone aggressively/by the neck and placing them on a table to quickly disarm them in combat.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:47 am
by Anonmare
I miss quick-tabling and tactical tables

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:11 pm
by Armhulen
MrEousTranger wrote:What actually is "tabling" and how would one "table" another?
Holy fuck

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:23 pm
by MrEousTranger
Ikr been here a year and doesn't know what tabling is.

Fag

Oh wait

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:05 am
by Qbopper
nsos wrote:answer the question or shut the fuck up you pussy bitch
it's "simple questions" not "ask a question and get judged"

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:42 am
by oranges
DemonFiren wrote:>being this new
you fucking dumb ligger

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:18 am
by DemonFiren
oranges wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:>being this new
you fucking dumb ligger
i'm right, though
you literal fruit

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:55 pm
by calzilla1
Is plasma fist still in the game?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:41 pm
by Nilons
calzilla1 wrote:Is plasma fist still in the game?
unfortunately

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:37 pm
by calzilla1
Can you disarm flashbangs with a screw driver?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:46 pm
by Armhulen
Nilons wrote:
calzilla1 wrote:Is plasma fist still in the game?
unfortunately
Not op!

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:00 pm
by Swindly
calzilla1 wrote:Can you disarm flashbangs with a screw driver?
No.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:30 pm
by Limski
are traps gay?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:36 pm
by Armhulen
Limski wrote:are traps gay?
y

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:07 am
by Anonmare
This isn't a question but rather, an answer in anticipation of a question. The difference between the various pumps:-
  • Gas Pump - Bog-standard pump. Great for precise levels and can pump up to a maximum pressure of 4500 kPA. Doesn't handle high pressures well and is slower than the other pump.
  • Volume Pump - Like its name suggests, pumps via volume rather than going for pressure with its maximum output of 200l/s being equivalent to 9000kPA. A volume pump is great for anything where precision is not needed (like the waste pipes).
  • Passive Gate - This isn't really a pump but most people don't understand it very well. A passive gate doesn't pump like the other examples, but rather, it only lets a certain amount of pressure through. So if you set it to 1500kPA, only that amount of pressure will be able to pass through it. You can think of it as a digital valve that only works one way. Maximum pressure of 4500 kPA.
Also a side note on heat exchangers. Heat exchangers equalize the temperature between two pipe networks without actually mixing the gasses, so set two up to face each other and they'll do their best to equalise pressure. As an example of how you can use them, you can use them to make a cold, isolated space loop filled with gas and have them exchange heat with the waste line to make the waste loop cold without actually making it go through space.


Actually, now that I've typed this out, I'm wondering if you can use freon and heat exchangers as a replacement for freezers in cryogenics.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:02 am
by Dr_bee
Anonmare wrote: Actually, now that I've typed this out, I'm wondering if you can use freon and heat exchangers as a replacement for freezers in cryogenics.
You can chug cryoxidone and stand on a space tile and get healed, it doesnt matter where the cold comes from, just that the body temp gets low enough. so yeah, heat exchanger cooling works.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:53 am
by BeeSting12
actually a fun fact, chugging cryox and then going into space allows you to survive when you're in space.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:29 am
by Tokiko2
Anonmare wrote:What's everyone's favourite SM gas mixes?

I personally use 66% N2O and 33% O2 as I've found it a good compromise between power and stability. I know there are more power efficient mixes though, there was one guy who made this complicated mix but I don't remember what the percentages were but it had CO2, plasma, O2 and N2O and he got some really incredible power outage with full room temp plasma tanks.
If the Freon dissipation is still disabled, then Freon Breeding Reactor. Freon + energy = more freon. How can you not love that?

Alternatively, I'll put some of the mixes I came up with when coding this nonsense. Keep in mind, I have not played in a month or two or three because I'm kinda busy so they might work slightly different since you guys changed the processing speed so keep that in mind.

Low pressure, pure oxygen: Low pressure mixes do stuff a bit differently, and a lot of people overlook them. Due to the very low amounts of oxygen in the chamber, the plasma waste will actually end up making up a significant percentage of the mix count as plasma. So depending on how little gas you have in the chamber and how fast you siphon it, you might end up with 10%-60% plasma in the mix, even though you're running a pure oxygen setup. And that's extremely power efficient and extremely easy to cool. However, if the vents ever get clogged or if you move the gas too slowly, this mix goes bad extremely fast.

High Pressure, warm 50% N2O and 50% Oxygen: This is a good mix to learn hot setups. You want to run this at around 3x the amount of K that room temperature is, whatever that amount is. How do you keep this setup just warm enough but not too warm and not too cold? That's for you to figure out. Get creative and start repiping stuff. It is a very good idea to run this setup at high pressures, since those lose/gain heat much slower which makes it much easier to keep a consistant temperature.

20% CO2, 80% N2: A good starting point for the charge inertia chain reactions. Why would you run this as a non traitor? I don't know, plenty of CEs ran stage 4 singulos too. It's dangerous. It's fun. It makes stupid amounts of powers and kills everyone if you make a tiny mistake. Consider turning off some emitters for this setup. If you manage to get CO2 high, you might even want to turn off all emitters, since the crystal will produce just enough from its own heat. By the way, too much power damages the crystal directly, but you can stabilize that to a certain point by cooling the crystal enough so even these setups can end up stable.

70% Plasma, 30% CO2: Probably the weirdest setup, it resembles an oversized turbine. You cannot run this with the normal chamber, you have to move stuff around and replace some walls with spacetiles and possibly add other venting methods. The idea is that you mix this in atmos and then pipe it into the supermatter chamber. It creates absurdly high amounts of waste gas so you will want to vent it straight into space.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:34 pm
by Dax Dupont
Whats the best grenade you can make that's not overly complicated?

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:37 pm
by Anonmare
Probably nitroglycerin. All you need is a lot of corn and a grinder

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:39 pm
by tacolizard
What's the point of finding a good sm setup when the beginner setup easily provides enough power for the station

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:42 pm
by Anonmare
You're not a real engineer until you construct an excessively powerful, needlessly dangerous engine that produces far more power than anyone will ever use in the history of ever.

I remember CEs of old who would make it a project of theirs to contain a stage 4 Singularity or have a dual engine. Or a dual stage 4 engine.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:48 pm
by Dax Dupont
Anonmare wrote:You're not a real engineer until you construct an excessively powerful, needlessly dangerous engine that produces far more power than anyone will ever use in the history of ever.

I remember CEs of old who would make it a project of theirs to contain a stage 4 Singularity or have a dual engine. Or a dual stage 4 engine.
I really miss the singularity engine. The SM engine is why I stopped playing engineer.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:49 pm
by Muncher21
AdAstraPerAspera wrote: I really miss the singularity engine.

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:43 am
by Qbopper
tacolizard wrote:What's the point of finding a good sm setup when the beginner setup easily provides enough power for the station
what's the point of doing anything but hiding in a locker until the shuttle arrives and then getting onto an escape pod

Re: Simple Questions Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:57 am
by tacolizard
Qbopper wrote:
tacolizard wrote:What's the point of finding a good sm setup when the beginner setup easily provides enough power for the station
what's the point of doing anything but hiding in a locker until the shuttle arrives and then getting onto an escape pod
whats the point of life