/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 3:15 pm**

Bottom post of the previous page:

J_Madison wrote:
Qbopper wrote:so what's the plan operatives

their current legal defense is a hilariously stupid misinterpretation of the license that they could have read the FAQ and realized was wrong, so I'm curious if this will actually escalate
We're waiting for the lawsuit to go through which means lots of motions to dismiss and back and forth.
It's out of our hands technically speaking.

Technically its still negotiations. There hasn't been a filing yet.

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 4:26 pm**

Then it's out of our hands unless someone wishes to take direct action.

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 5:22 pm**

whats the difference between fallout13 and goonstation ? or is goon coded from scratch ? while fallout13 is based of tg/ the old goon release ?

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 6:02 pm**

IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 6:05 pm**

Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13

all SS13 does.

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 6:08 pm**

I mean, without branching. Are there even still surviving branches that forked before the first goonstation public release?

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 6:16 pm**

Goon isn't in violation because we're technically a fork of THEM. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their code since it's MIT, and not (A)GPLv3.

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 6:31 pm**

iamgoofball wrote:Goon isn't in violation because we're technically a fork of THEM. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their code since it's MIT, and not (A)GPLv3.

oh ok. I thought that goon and tg were based on the old build.

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 8:21 pm**

Grazyn wrote:I mean, without branching. Are there even still surviving branches that forked before the first goonstation public release?

OpenSS13

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 10:54 pm**

this is too hype for me

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 10:59 pm**

also isn't it DMCA not DCMA?

Posted: **Mon May 08, 2017 11:09 pm**

Bawhoppennn wrote:also isn't it DMCA not DCMA?

they already know
they just don't give a fuck

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 1:32 am**

Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13

stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

paging icepacks the ancient one

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 2:20 am**

Whats the status of the icons/art though? How much of it is totally original?

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 2:26 am**

Ask d4no for how many sprites are original, I know he sprites some stuff like metal armor and leather jackets.

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 2:28 am**

four pages on a oxford shitpost

i've reached a new record

edit: false alarm gunsmithing had 8 pages

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 3:05 am**

Oldman Robustin wrote:Whats the status of the icons/art though? How much of it is totally original?

extreme ballpark number, wjohnston would be able to answer more accurately: about 85% is original (aka: made by the coders, or me/WJ/nienhaus)
we still have turbo old sprites in there somewhere, walls come to mind

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 6:46 am**

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 6:58 am**

Oldman Robustin wrote:Whats the status of the icons/art though? How much of it is totally original?

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation#license I'm not sure the art assets will be material when they are licensed under a different, and seemingly more lax, license that permits Fallout13's use of them.

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 7:03 am**

Danowar wrote:

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.

Why don't you want people to use your sprites?

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 7:41 am**

smugdog wrote:
Danowar wrote:

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?

Would anyone on /tg/ actually use them, though? Or would they just dump all of the clothing into the costume vending machine and promptly forget about them? The only thing I made with /tg/ in mind were the e-sword sprites, but it didn't seem like anyone on the coderbus wanted them.

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 1:57 pm**

Danowar wrote:
smugdog wrote:
Danowar wrote:

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?
Would anyone on /tg/ actually use them, though? Or would they just dump all of the clothing into the costume vending machine and promptly forget about them? The only thing I made with /tg/ in mind were the e-sword sprites, but it didn't seem like anyone on the coderbus wanted them.

its more of no maintainer is going to accept my PR if i make it

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 2:25 pm**

I believe the bearded man will win for justice

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 6:21 pm**

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

paging icepacks the ancient one

there was no stolen USB, an angry dev named AZA got pissy with another dev named Murrawhip and posted everything on the forums, AZA was banned and a month later the powers that were had a vote for an open source ss13, titled openss13, which saw numerous iterations before a goon recoded the game and it was hosted by a guy named persh

where did you get a USB drive?

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 7:47 pm**

IcePacks wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

paging icepacks the ancient one
there was no stolen USB, an angry dev named AZA got pissy with another dev named Murrawhip and posted everything on the forums, AZA was banned and a month later the powers that we're had a vote for an open source ss13, titled openss13, which saw numerous iterations before a goon recoded the game and it was hosted by a guy named persh

where did you get a USB drive?

Confirmed by oldfag. Double confirmed by 2nd oldfag. AZA was also a huge drunk. Probably still is. (USB thing is probably just urban legend crap.)

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 8:08 pm**

USB Story is just something that gained traction over the years as a story that's be reported over and over. As to why, I'd argue it generally makes a better story that someone stole this USB thumb drive from their friend who trusted them, to release the code to the community at large after some sort of disagreement that they had. It sounds better than someone got drunk and angry then released the code on forums because...drunk and angry.

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 8:46 pm**

AZA might have had a lot of awkward temper tantrums but if he hadn't had such a shitty relationship with his crotchety friends we wouldn't be here

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 9:04 pm**

Who knows, maybe they would've perfected the ultimate atmospheric simulator and solved global warming

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 10:11 pm**

Danowar wrote:
smugdog wrote:
Danowar wrote:

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?
Would anyone on /tg/ actually use them, though? Or would they just dump all of the clothing into the costume vending machine and promptly forget about them? The only thing I made with /tg/ in mind were the e-sword sprites, but it didn't seem like anyone on the coderbus wanted them.

That doesn't answer my question

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 11:36 pm**

I think the USB story is real though because the guy who created SS13 has been in coderbus a few times and talked about it?
Maybe I fabricated that memory...
if he ever joins again, we should ask

Posted: **Tue May 09, 2017 11:39 pm**

Rockdtben wrote:
IcePacks wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

paging icepacks the ancient one
there was no stolen USB, an angry dev named AZA got pissy with another dev named Murrawhip and posted everything on the forums, AZA was banned and a month later the powers that we're had a vote for an open source ss13, titled openss13, which saw numerous iterations before a goon recoded the game and it was hosted by a guy named persh

where did you get a USB drive?
Confirmed by oldfag. Double confirmed by 2nd oldfag. AZA was also a huge drunk. Probably still is. (USB thing is probably just urban legend crap.)

USB story was on the history page on the wiki for a while iirc. Just a largely perpetuated myth

Posted: **Wed May 10, 2017 12:12 am**

Grazyn wrote:Who knows, maybe they would've perfected the ultimate atmospheric simulator and solved global warming

you did not see the original devs

EDIT:

NikNakFlak wrote:I think the USB story is real though because the guy who created SS13 has been in coderbus a few times and talked about it?
Maybe I fabricated that memory...
if he ever joins again, we should ask

exadv was not a member of that development team

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2017 9:19 pm**

bump cause oxford shitpost

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 12:01 am**

>bumping a sticky.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 12:12 am**

oh wait shit what i got stickied?

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 12:19 am**

dude not only that but this thread is linked on the front page.

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Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 12:40 am**

just gonna casually edit all the content to be shilling and shitposting, publicity noted i am now top shitposter you are to regard me as such or be deported @pillz

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 12:41 am**

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 1:17 am**

Are negotiations still ongoing?

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Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 4:37 am**

Ouch.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 5:52 am**

It's for legal fees but not for tg/the GPL DMCA, or so they proclaim.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 6:10 am**

Saw something that mentioned there was a personal issue relating to custody. Can;t remember where I saw it so this is hell hearsay but sounds like Godsring is in several pickles.

One is easily solved.

(bump)

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 6:40 am**

>godsring is too busy with another lawsuit to be able to deal with a tg one

Now is the time, MSO.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 6:55 am**

Seems like the FO13 servers were getting ddos'd earlier. No clue who the perpetrator was, though.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 1:27 pm**

He's got undeniable proof in the form of a confession that we're the ones behind the attack.

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 1:52 pm**

Sligneris wrote:

He's got undeniable proof in the form of a confession that we're the ones behind the attack.

He's got some random dickhead saying it. If it was mso, an admin, or a maintainer it would have weight. Tgstation is not responsible for what random dickheads say

Posted: **Fri May 12, 2017 1:57 pm**

Local man with a shit name doesn't understand sarcasm

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