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Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:22 pm #225814

Bottom post of the previous page:

Well most (if not all) of those racist quotes by Trump aren't actually racist. He wasn't racist against Mexicans: he only said mean things about illegal immigrants, and even recognized that some are good people. He wasn't racist against Muslims: Islam isn't a race, and even if you want to call it racism anyway, he was only talking about immigrants (again) from some unspecified middle east country. He wasn't an antisemite: his daughter is jewish, and his grandchildren are too. He wasn't racist against asians: he only attacked the Chinese on economic issues. And I don't recall him saying anything bad about black people.

ShadowDimentio · Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:46 pm

Ricotez wrote:There has been an increase in hate crimes against minorities fuelled by racists who voted Trump for his foreign policies, but Clinton voters have also attacked Trump voters, and several of the #notmypresident protests turned violent. Let's all stop being bloody daft idiots for a second.

>Trump hate crimes

Tangibly untrue. Every one I've seen so far has been debunked by the police as falsified reports and lies. And as anyone can tell you, Shillary supporters are absolutely assblasted and not above lying and violence to try desperately to get what they want, like toddlers.

ShadowDimentio · Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:49 pm

bandit wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

>trump isn't repealing obamacare anymore

>trump isn't prosecuting hillary

>trump isn't building the wall

WHERE IS YOUR MAKING YOUR AMERICA GREAT AGAIN NOW

I wouldn't trust anything anyone from the media tells you.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:10 pm #225823

People like ShadowDimentio are the reason why I have trouble trusting Trump and his supporters, unfortunately.

ShadowDimentio · Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:11 pm

Why tho, I'm a good boy

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:09 pm #225838

anyone got woody's got wood ready https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:15 pm #225840

I get that several have been faked but shadow you are being willfully fucking retarded if you seriously think that not a single one has happened

ShadowDimentio · Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:33 pm

Well no shit a few have probably happened. But in a country of 320 million people all of like four incidents happening or something is absolutely minuscule.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:56 pm #225905

bandit wrote:anyone got woody's got wood ready https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Woody%27s_Got_Wood

Spoiler:

Or the German version, shortened sadly

Spoiler:

Do it.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:26 pm #225911

ShadowDimentio wrote:I wouldn't trust anything anyone from the media tells you.

fam these are trump's own words, it's an interview

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:32 pm #225964

trust nobody, not even yourself

ShadowDimentio · Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:08 am

We have blindfolds but there's only like two on the whole map.

TheColdTurtle · Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:27 am

What did he mean by this

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:08 pm #226130

truly pepe is the next great philosopher

ShadowDimentio · Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:46 pm

[youtube]Q8TE_QMa3fw[/youtube]

I didn't realize that Russia's situation was so desperate. If Trump plays his cards right, Russia could owe the US a huge debt of gratitude-- a Russian-American alliance could be very real.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:41 am #226402

Maybe not an alliance, but a coalition would probably happen in Syria. Like Russians going boots on the ground against ISIS while the USA helps provide air support. Of course any action against Assad will have to stop, and they'll better pull out those special forces attached to "moderate rebels" because Putin won't tolerate any more meddling from the USA except total cooperation. I can even picture him asking the Americans to bomb the same rebels they were supporting just as proof of their serious commitment.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:59 am #226411

wake up sheeple

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:04 am #226414

>>>>dykes

InsaneHyena · Post by **InsaneHyena** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:15 pm #226457

Trump will make Russia great again

Post by **oranges** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:10 am #226665

CosmicScientist wrote:Mate, we still have a dyke.

Got to keep those Powys raiders out of the greatest of lands; Mercia.

plus there's always your mum too

/me drops mic

Super Aggro Crag · Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:43 pm

oranges wrote:
CosmicScientist wrote:Mate, we still have a dyke.

Got to keep those Powys raiders out of the greatest of lands; Mercia.
plus there's always your mum too

/me drops mic

/me picks up mic

hey nerd you dropped something

here come take it back

/me holds it up out of your reach while my fellow bullies set you up for a wedgie.

Toronto88 · Post by **Toronto88** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:09 pm #226763

Bandit is consistently wrong. I'd make jambalaya out of his face.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:13 pm #227251

https://www.rt.com/usa/367050-kill-donald-trump-threat/

"It's just a joke!"
Sometimes people are idiots

ShadowDimentio · Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:20 pm

Stupid angry democrats are going to get slam fucking dunked by that law if they don't stop, the government doesn't take that shit as jokes and will kick your door down over it.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:54 pm #227475

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ailymailus

'There have been a few times this past week when all I wanted to do is just to curl up with a good book or our dogs and never leave the house again.'

Yeah, sure she had the moral strength to be president of the free world

InsaneHyena · Post by **InsaneHyena** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:26 pm #227502

She looks so old and weak. Pathetic.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:43 pm #227603

Everyone knew Clinton didn't have what it takes to be president.

It was mostly people going "Holy shit Trump is the worst" that voted for her. I guess they were hoping she would die in the first year or something

ShadowDimentio · Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:10 pm

She must be under a lot of stress after all her special interests turned on her after she failed to win as promised. I wouldn't have been surprised if someone had assassinated her over it, she didn't exactly affiliate with the best sorts.

Sidon · Post by **Sidon** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:40 am #227821

You should be more worried that she was (thankfully) thrown under the bus so soon. She'll only be brought up in regards to the record popular vote gain on Trump, as the "what could have been" once Trump destroys his promises and the trust given to him. This will keep the current dem base as they reorganize around Bernie and the like minded who understand how to court the working white middle class vote in America. The dems are going to turn into the boogeyman the republicans painted them as for the last 8 years. It's going to go in reverse and I don't even care anymore, that shit works.

Maybe this was the plan all along?

TheColdTurtle · Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:01 am

CRASHING THIS COUNTRY

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:20 am #227848

if you lost an election to a racism-inflated pumpkin with a wig you'd want to curl up on the couch too

Incomptinence · Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:27 am

the non president is just chillin'

"HRRRGHHHDRRRR WEAKNESS REEEEE" ~a couch potato

ShadowDimentio · Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:00 am

Trump settled the Trump University case with a 25m concession in spite of how much he hates giving up. Makes sense to me, he's gonna be president, he doesn't have time to be fucking around in the courts.

Limey · Post by **Limey** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:22 am #228107

what if mike pence was gay

Toronto88 · Post by **Toronto88** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:26 am #228109

Ricotez wrote:if you lost an election to a racism-inflated pumpkin with a wig you'd want to curl up on the couch too

The main problem for trendy academics is the belief that race is not biological but there is at least one other problem. They are confused by the fact that old-stock Americans disliked the new immigrants. Anti-racists ... do not seem to realize that there is an infinity of reasons for looking down on people even of one’s own race. The old stock disliked the people coming down the gangways because they were illiterate, badly-dressed, spoke no English, stank of garlic, and professed strange religions — not because anyone thought they were not white. An Englishman who behaved like a Dago was not welcome in boardrooms or even living rooms either. Anti-racists are so obsessed with “racism” they can think of no other reason to make Italians bunk with Mexicans in mining camps.

In the end, it was entirely as Henry Fairchild had suggested: once the Sheenies and Bohunks made a little money, dressed properly, learned English and acquired good manners, they could go anywhere. It might take a generation or two, but the outcome was essentially preordained. New immigrants were not “working towards whiteness.” They were leaving behind their European peasant origins and becoming middle-class Americans. Only Ph.Ds stuffed with fashionable nonsense could be blind to the obvious.

Screemonster · Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:36 am

Limey wrote:what if mike pence was gay

given the track record of strident anti-gay campaigners being caught "peeing with a wide stance" it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:21 am

ShadowDimentio wrote:She must be under a lot of stress after all her special interests turned on her after she failed to win as promised. I wouldn't have been surprised if someone had assassinated her over it, she didn't exactly affiliate with the best sorts.

She's had so many people assassinated that she didn't even notice she was signing her own death warrant.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:12 pm #228203

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Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:32 pm #228300

I recently came to a depressing yet insightful realization that, to my mind, explains much of the 2016 election.

Even in this election, only 55% of eligible voters voted. That means 45% of them didn't vote.

Statistically, if you are a democrat or republican political candidate, of those 45% of non-voters, a bit less than half of them nominally support you but don't give enough of a shit to actually vote. That's around 20% of the population that is on your side, but not enough to get out of bed.

So which sounds like the better option: Go after the ~22.5% of the population that supports your opponent and votes, probably more than half of which you have no chance of winning over, or try to get the 20% of the population that supports you but won't vote to get their ass to the polls?

Obviously the second one's the better strategy. But that means there's no incentive to engage with your opponent's arguments about policy or hold political discourse with them, because those things target the people who support your opponent that you're better off ignoring. Even worse, debate of this nature requires you acknowledge that your opponent is reasonable enough to engage in a proper discussion of the issues, which is directly opposed to what should be your primary goal- pretend your opponents or what they represent are so terrifying you scare your nonvoting supporters into going to the polls. Any engagement with your opponent beyond calling them a racist hatemonger or a murderous corporate shill is not only unproductive, but actively disincentivized. So we won't get a more productive political discourse until we start voting... but we won't start voting until we get a productive political discourse.

dezzmont · Post by **dezzmont** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:34 pm #228307

That is political science 101, literally one of the first things you learn: A first past the post voting system creates an inevitable two party system where moderates and the apathetic are courted by fear.

Super Aggro Crag · Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:44 pm

This.a big raisin hitlery didn't win. News reported the "voting bloc" that showed up for Obama didn't show up for her. I.e. the black people who don't usually bother to vote did for Obama but did not for hill

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:15 am #228316

Bet if Hillary was black they would've come out to vote for her, because niggas be racist yo.

MrEousTranger · Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:42 am

Just watched this thing on isis
There a bunch of dicks.
just nuke them from orbit
its the only way to be sure

MrAlphonzo · Post by **MrAlphonzo** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:56 pm #228500

Muslim immigration ban vanished off Trump's website.
KEK.
Over 50 million people just got conned at once.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:23 pm #228836

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MrAlphonzo · Post by **MrAlphonzo** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:02 pm #229116

Here's my prediction that nobody asked for.
There isn't going to be a wall.
There aren't going to be immigration bans.
He already backpedaled on those before he won.
Trumps just going to get rid of Obama care, slap his name on it, put it back, and pretend he made it better. And people will probably believe that.
Russia is going to have fun in Europe for the next four years, seeing as how in an incredibly strange turn of events, so called "patriots" want to befriend communists. Never thought I'd see the day.
If taxes really get reduced to 15%, the US is going to go flat fucking broke. Best case scenario, we go back to the pre-Obama economy, which was still terrible but I'll take what we can get. Worst case scenario, we're looking at another depression.
I doubt that the income from countries that will pay the US for protection will be able to cover the loss. Seeing as how, globally, countries are already moving to become more independent from the US. Making them pay for protection? That'll just make them try that even harder.

Hey, remember that other time we voted in a TV celebrity? I think his name was Reagan. Anywho, he was a terrible president, but because he "ended" the Cold War (It was either already over, or its still going on today.) apparently he did a good job.

TheColdTurtle · Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:08 pm

(You)

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:54 pm #229127

It's an assessment I like, therefore he's right.

TheColdTurtle · Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:14 am

It is an assessment I dislike, therefore he is wrong

MrAlphonzo · Post by **MrAlphonzo** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:09 am #229174

TheColdTurtle wrote:(You)

I don't get it.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:36 am #229200

MrAlphonzo wrote: I doubt that the income from countries that will pay the US for protection will be able to cover the loss. Seeing as how, globally, countries are already moving to become more independent from the US. Making them pay for protection? That'll just make them try that even harder.

Those countries can't be "independent", they can only be in another power's sphere of influence. And which power are they gonna run to? Russia and US will just double tag them, Russia threatens and US offers protection, for a hefty charge of course, and the other way around for middle eastern countries. It will be like the mob racketeering but on a global scale. As a European, that's the thing that scares me most about the Trump presidency