[That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Appeals which have been closed.
Locked
Chimpston

[That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by Chimpston » #776765

BYOND account: Chimpston

Ban/note type (Server Ban/Discord Ban/Forum Ban/Note): Server Ban

Ban/note duration: 7 Days
Ban/note reason: Image
"As a non-antag, was completely LRP by renaming themselves to "Cracker Balls" before starting several fights with random people, calling them "sluts" or "whores" before eventually being killed. When questioned in the ticket, they informed exactly that before calling it all silly and leaving right after."

"This is Manuel, where it's held up to higher standards. And you got more than a couple thousand hours in this game to know better."

Time ban was placed: 4/16/2025
Server you were playing on when banned: /TG/ Station 🌈 Manuel 🌈
Round ID in which ban was placed: 251299

Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
(🌟) - The ban/note is factually incorrect
() - The ban/note is not against the rules
(🌟) - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?:

Dear "That Engineer",

During this Manuel ("Medium Roleplay") round on the /TG/ Station server, I had gone through a series of dreams and visions. A rather goofy scuffle with a single (1) ((one)) (((singular))) atmospheric technician. I am rather curious to understand what is your definition of "LRP" vs. "MRP" (What does it mean...?) is as well. I believe that the /TG/ Station community has been overly ✨ "hellbent" ✨ and hyper-focused on this idea, despite how incredibly unproductive it is and leads to nowhere. From my observations of Manuel rounds, apparently this so called "medium-roleplay" lifestyle is slapping "Space-" in front of everything you say that could be considered OOC. (or don't, it doesn't matter...!) I understand your frustrations, however I do not believe that masking your day to day internet conversations in a setting where "standards" apparently exist as a form of "In Character" gossip, etc. Moving on, the wife of Joseph, and the holy mother of 🌟 Jesus. 🌟 Mary, had granted me the title of Krakaahsje "Cracker Balls" Vitche, the II. (Or in simpler terms, the maintenance in CatWalk contains a piece of paper with the Virgin Mary on it, when you burn it, you are granted a title. Typically found in those Mafia kits you can purchase from Cargo.)

Had you not approached me with such an aggressive manner, I would have been a lot more lenient in talking things out with you. "What the fuck are you doing?" is the easiest way to sour things up. You have no right opening a ticket in such a manner, refer to this:
Image

Also worth noting, you had spoken in a manner seeming rather unaware of my lovely misadventures. It seemed as if you were basing your rash assumptions completely on the flippant complaints of the other side. Everything I had said in my ticket was pure honesty, I prefer to be quick and precise.

Image
In this round, an admin spawned in copious amounts of plasma in the main hallways which had ignited. My first response was to immediately seek out the source of the plasma to safely scrub it out from the atmosphere, I had wandered from hall to hall seeking the source as I am not familiar with this map. Otherwise from as long as I was in the round, there had been zero issues regarding the atmosphere. There were zero instances of "tiding basically" given that I had not "tided" anything. I have 850+ hours in atmospherics, I am not "wasting"(?) this role, I know what I am doing. I have spent plentiful of rounds teaching, repairing, and experimenting with atmospherics. Regardless of my hours, I believe that anyone should have the right to play other roles and learn them no matter how much playtime they have. I was not "stepping out of line", nor have I referred to "multiple people" but rather the only other tech I had scuffles by the holodeck as a "whore" and a "slut", who had not seemed bothered by my playful remarks whatsoever. My execution was then smoothly ordered by the AI and I was rightfully put down like the glowing beast I was in character. I hope you understand.


The Ticket in particular:
► Show Spoiler
Thank you for your time.

From, Shrimpleton.


Image
User avatar
Timberpoes
Site Admin
Joined: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:54 pm
Byond Username: Timberpoes

Re: [That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by Timberpoes » #776786

Just a polite reminder on the rules of this subforum and what is at stake when people go out of their way to personalise their appeals to the extent that perhaps they're taking the piss a little.

viewtopic.php?t=44
6. No image macros, reaction images, memes or videos anywhere in FNR. Any media posted should be screenshots or other evidence directly related to the thread.

...

10. This forum is for ban appeals made in good faith only. Major actions of bad faith in your ban appeal will be punished. Your ability to appeal bans can be revoked, leaving you fucked if you are perma banned ...
Making appeals obnoxious to read can fall under this umbrella and may lead to summary dismissal; a request to make a new appeal without the visual garbage; post approval in the appeals subforum; or worse.

The ability to appeal bans is a privilege, and privileges can be revoked. It's exercised rarely, but it can still be done. Please be mindful of this going forward with your appeal.

This is a preventative Forum Admin message to try and stop a perceived issue escalating before it ever really starts, and does not prevent the headmins from taking a different opinion and deleting my post. No formal action is being taken. No reply to this post is necessary. If you want to discuss the matter further, use forum PMs with me, but I have nothing else to say so I wouldn't waste the time.
/tg/station Codebase Maintainer
/tg/station Game Master/Discord Jannie/Forum Admin: Feed me back in my thread.
/tg/station Admin Trainer: Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?
Feb 2022-Sep 2022 Host Vote Headmin
Mar 2023-Sep 2023 Admin Vote Headmin
Sep 2024-April 2025 Player and Admin Vote Headmin
Chimpston

Re: [That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by Chimpston » #776823

ThatEngineer
In-Game Admin
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:34 pm
Byond Username: That Engineer

Re: [That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by ThatEngineer » #776885

After overviewing the situation of this appeal and ticket, I must admit this was a less than acceptable display of my admin conduct in handling an ahelp. This is because of multiple factors, particularly me being rather displeased in the moment from external problems, but is neither acceptable or excusable in what was shown. As a consequence, it can be assumed that the result of a seven day ban is in excess compared to the severity of the actions undertaken, and ought be reduced. This won't be argued against.

However, something that should be questioned in this appeal is the fact that I never mentioned any issue with tiding, or even brought it up within the ban because that was not the problem at hand. It's a particularly hard case to stick and would have been dubious to press on in that moment. More pressing was the matter of that brawl in medbay and fight with the other atmos tech that you started, eventually necessitating the AI to order a timely execution.

Disruptive fighting in public or important locations is strictly against Rule 3, Precedent 2 "chicken fights". If you had IC reasoning for bludgeoning the fellow atmos tech there, and brawling with the crew until being killed then I would love to hear your side of the story. This doesn't even go into Rule 3, Precedent 3 "names and nicknames" being arguably broken or close to it by picking the nickname of "cracker balls". Which, honestly, could be possible on perhaps a clown since they have more leeway in these convections, but no it was the chosen name for a mafia nickname via an obscure item that applies it.

This part of the ticket I can't see a reasonable IC logic behind choosing that besides for the sake of absurdity, which would be more befitting of Terry or Sybil. Thought I will not say it's impossible that there isn't a piece of information or context I am missing out on that would make it acceptable.
Chimpston

Re: [That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by Chimpston » #776948

Dear "That Engineer",

Thank you for your response. However, I believe you should stop using this inappropriate opening altogether considering this is not the first time you have began tickets in such a manner (with multiple players), regardless of your reasonings, it's very counterproductive and tends to sour the conversations that are to be had between an admin and a player.

I had chosen my nickname of "Cracker Balls" because I was called such during that round, in-character reasoning if you will, I wouldn't have chosen it out of the blue otherwise because there would not have been a reason to do so. I sincerely doubt this name would pass on both Terry and Sybil without a reason behind it, you seem to hold a rather NRP perspective on them both.

Anyways, this conflict I had with the other tech started because of the gimmick of this map and my sheer curiosity. I thought it would be silly to cut the catwalk he was standing on and thus started our nonlethal encounters that I initiated. The situation would have easily been handled by security as they did actually come to the holodeck to detain me, however silicon (the cyborgs were just following their orders which I understand, I believe the AI ordered such) tend to be very blood thirsty (especially on Manuel) given that I was a nonhuman. We were not interfering with other players, the "brawl" in medical was swiftly escorted, the other technician did not seem to mind it either. It seemed it only have disgruntled the observers if anything. It started in a secluded area and eventually escalated in somewhat populated areas that was not intended, eventually becoming secluded once more.

From yours truly, Chingleston.
Last edited by Chimpston on Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Timberpoes
Site Admin
Joined: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:54 pm
Byond Username: Timberpoes

Re: [That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by Timberpoes » #776983

Chimpston requested deletion of their forum account via forum PMs.

I asked scriptis if I was allowed to accomodate this request, it was formerly something our previous host exercised executive control over. He gave me permission to. Thus it has been done.

How their account deletion request being granted impacts this appeal is a matter for the headmins.
/tg/station Codebase Maintainer
/tg/station Game Master/Discord Jannie/Forum Admin: Feed me back in my thread.
/tg/station Admin Trainer: Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?
Feb 2022-Sep 2022 Host Vote Headmin
Mar 2023-Sep 2023 Admin Vote Headmin
Sep 2024-April 2025 Player and Admin Vote Headmin
iain0
In-Game Head Admin
Joined: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:23 pm
Byond Username: Iain0

Re: [That Engineer] - Cracked My Balls Too Hard 💔

Post by iain0 » #777033

This appeal is unable to progress, partly due to chimpston being placed on permaban due to repeatedly and knowingly breaking the rules, and partly due to chimpstons decision to remove their own forum account thus removing their ability to respond. With the hanging perma the conclusion here no longer matters.

We are glad to see ThatEngineer's reflection on their own conduct in this appeal, and checked to ensure this is an isolated incident not a pattern.

This appeal will now earn its resting place in the archives.
Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users