[Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
- yalanamalanas
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[Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
BYOND account:YavuzKaganY
Ban/note type; Role ban
Ban/note duration:Permamently
Ban/note reason:Banned from Roles: command, Captain, Head of Personnel, Bridge Assistant, Chief Engineer, Quartermaster, Chief Medical Officer, Research Director permanently - Taking over from dataxpunged - As the HoS, arrested and demoted the HoP to an assistant for not taking the acting captain role when the HoP offered it to the HoS at the start of the round. Kept insisting it was under "space law" in the ahelp. Disconnected in during the ticket.
Time ban was placed2024-12-22 14:33:42
Server you were playing on when banned:Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed:Round 246325
Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
(x) - The ban/note is factually incorrect
(x) - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
(x) - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance
Why should this appeal be accepted?:
taking the role of Head of Personnel in a lowpop round requires the foresight to take on the necessary responsibilities of the acting captain, setting up the SM and securing the disk for example.
Arrest and demotion was made for, Dereliction of Duty "To willfully abandon an obligation that is critical to the station's continued operation." not "for not taking the acting captain role " just the disk.
in this case nuclear disk's safety is cruel for stations continued operation, hereby, not securing the nuclear disk is something "critical". Plus, he was the only command until I arrived. Just because he can refuse the acting captainship, doesn't make him immune to space law. Game announces "Acting captain X on the desk" so It requires for me to see him as acting captain UNTIL he refuses. Which he refused after I have arrived and didn't secured the disk between that time. "I've already told you that it is NOT their duty because they are not the captain, mate" I didn't even forced him to accept acting captainship. I only said him to secure the disk as it is the only thing I cared, arrest was rightful after he flee'd the scene and attacked me with his baton during the course of actions, that is solely enough for demotion. Even if he's not the captain at the moment like you said, it doesn't change the fact that Head of Personnel is the second in command after captain and he is obliged to do necessary work.
Also I have followed this along with the space law for demotion;
"So if one of your guys isn't acting like an appropriate team player, don't hesitate to show them who's boss." -Wiki.
Roleplaywise, you can consider that a mutiny because he put the station into a massive risk by not taking the disk.
Ban/note type; Role ban
Ban/note duration:Permamently
Ban/note reason:Banned from Roles: command, Captain, Head of Personnel, Bridge Assistant, Chief Engineer, Quartermaster, Chief Medical Officer, Research Director permanently - Taking over from dataxpunged - As the HoS, arrested and demoted the HoP to an assistant for not taking the acting captain role when the HoP offered it to the HoS at the start of the round. Kept insisting it was under "space law" in the ahelp. Disconnected in during the ticket.
Time ban was placed2024-12-22 14:33:42
Server you were playing on when banned:Manuel
Round ID in which ban was placed:Round 246325
Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
(x) - The ban/note is factually incorrect
(x) - The ban/note is not against the rules
() - The ban/note needs modification
(x) - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance
Why should this appeal be accepted?:
taking the role of Head of Personnel in a lowpop round requires the foresight to take on the necessary responsibilities of the acting captain, setting up the SM and securing the disk for example.
Arrest and demotion was made for, Dereliction of Duty "To willfully abandon an obligation that is critical to the station's continued operation." not "for not taking the acting captain role " just the disk.
in this case nuclear disk's safety is cruel for stations continued operation, hereby, not securing the nuclear disk is something "critical". Plus, he was the only command until I arrived. Just because he can refuse the acting captainship, doesn't make him immune to space law. Game announces "Acting captain X on the desk" so It requires for me to see him as acting captain UNTIL he refuses. Which he refused after I have arrived and didn't secured the disk between that time. "I've already told you that it is NOT their duty because they are not the captain, mate" I didn't even forced him to accept acting captainship. I only said him to secure the disk as it is the only thing I cared, arrest was rightful after he flee'd the scene and attacked me with his baton during the course of actions, that is solely enough for demotion. Even if he's not the captain at the moment like you said, it doesn't change the fact that Head of Personnel is the second in command after captain and he is obliged to do necessary work.
Also I have followed this along with the space law for demotion;
"So if one of your guys isn't acting like an appropriate team player, don't hesitate to show them who's boss." -Wiki.
Roleplaywise, you can consider that a mutiny because he put the station into a massive risk by not taking the disk.
- Archie700
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
This was supposed to be a weekban from command, reducing.
For one, I don't believe the HoP should have been demoted for "dereliction of duty" when they handed it over to you to take care of it, this is really unfair to the HoP as they at least tried to address it by handing over the responsibilities to you to take care.
It felt too "letter of the law" to the point of dickery to even be considered.
I'm not reducing it beyond that, I messed up by not applying a sec ban as well because this is technically supposed to be both.
For one, I don't believe the HoP should have been demoted for "dereliction of duty" when they handed it over to you to take care of it, this is really unfair to the HoP as they at least tried to address it by handing over the responsibilities to you to take care.
It felt too "letter of the law" to the point of dickery to even be considered.
I'm not reducing it beyond that, I messed up by not applying a sec ban as well because this is technically supposed to be both.
- yalanamalanas
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
My problem is not him doesn't want to take the acting captainship (taking HoP on lowpop and refusing acting captainship is suggesting incompetence/lack of professionalism enough to demote someone), it's him not securing the disk from the roundstart to encounter with me. Crime is still crime I even asked him to secure the disk, very before the said event happened. Appyling IC suggestions on MRP should not be a problem. And I was also wondering what rule did I broke too.
Think the scenerio where I haven't arrived as command, he would be running around and refusing to be acting captain, eventually leading something worse. Responsibilities are meant to be taken if someone willingly picks a command role especially in lowpop. This is both common sense and correct roleplay.,
Think the scenerio where I haven't arrived as command, he would be running around and refusing to be acting captain, eventually leading something worse. Responsibilities are meant to be taken if someone willingly picks a command role especially in lowpop. This is both common sense and correct roleplay.,
- Archie700
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
This would be completely reasonable if it were around 1 hour into the round.
Not around less than 10 minutes.
I am not going to reduce the ban further.
Not around less than 10 minutes.
I am not going to reduce the ban further.
- yalanamalanas
- Joined: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:51 pm
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
For one, I'm not asking for a reduce.
Second, I have asked which exact rule did I broke, you seem fail to answer.
I am not going to wait 1 hour to apply law. That just doubles the lone op spawn chance. I have asked him 2 times to take the disk
He had the enough time. He attacked me in the course of actions.
Law is law, crime is crime. No one is an exeption, he was escaping from responsiblity anyway, I took his responsiblities, it's a good thing for him.
Second, I have asked which exact rule did I broke, you seem fail to answer.
I am not going to wait 1 hour to apply law. That just doubles the lone op spawn chance. I have asked him 2 times to take the disk
He had the enough time. He attacked me in the course of actions.
Law is law, crime is crime. No one is an exeption, he was escaping from responsiblity anyway, I took his responsiblities, it's a good thing for him.
- Archie700
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
The logs showed you were the one who started firing disablers at him before he got off 1 single baton.
You were being a dick, the guy had in good faith offered you the role of acting captain and you decided to enforce "space law" so strictly that it breaches on just being a complete ass.
In fact it's not even arguable this was dereliction of duty, you just completely stole away his HoP role on lowpop in under 10 minutes.
This appeal is denied.
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[2024-12-22 13:22:05.757] ATTACK: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) has thrown Lorlor Rakustdath's ID Card (Acting Captain) . (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:57.679] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [catwalk] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (72,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:58.145] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (73,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:58.571] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (74,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:58.808] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (74,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:59.024] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (74,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:59.162] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (75,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:59.449] ATTACK: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) stun attacked YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) with the telescopic baton (NEWHP: 92.5) (Port Tram Underpass (74,119,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:59.451] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (75,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:22:59.873] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (75,121,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:00.266] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (75,121,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:00.451] ATTACK: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) shaken YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Port Tram Underpass (75,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:00.509] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 20) (Port Tram Underpass (75,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:00.706] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (75,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:01.157] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (76,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:01.158] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (76,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:01.562] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (76,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:01.610] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (76,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:02.023] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [catwalk] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (78,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:02.206] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (78,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:03.984] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (73,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:04.388] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [catwalk] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (71,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:04.837] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (70,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:05.360] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (72,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:05.367] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 20) (Port Tram Underpass (72,122,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:05.760] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 20) (Port Tram Underpass (73,121,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:05.937] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Port Tram Underpass (Port Tram Underpass (74,120,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:06.508] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) shot BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (75,119,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:07.683] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) stun attacked BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 85) (Port Tram Underpass (80,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:09.707] ATTACK: *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) (mob_4) tended the wounds of BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with internal tools (NEWHP: 86.9) (Port Tram Underpass (80,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:11.260] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) attempted to handcuff BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (NEWHP: 86.9) (Port Tram Underpass (81,119,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:11.707] ATTACK: *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) (mob_4) tended the wounds of BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with internal tools (NEWHP: 88.8) (Port Tram Underpass (80,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:13.780] ATTACK: Bazooka_boy901/(Lorlor Rakustdath) (mob_3431) stun attacked BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with the police baton (NEWHP: 88.8) (Port Tram Underpass (81,117,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:13.801] ATTACK: *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) (mob_4) tended the wounds of BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with internal tools (NEWHP: 90.6) (Port Tram Underpass (80,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:14.354] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) successfully handcuffed BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (NEWHP: 90.6) (Port Tram Underpass (81,119,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:15.146] ATTACK: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) grabbed BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) passive grab (NEWHP: 90.6) (Port Tram Underpass (81,119,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:15.811] ATTACK: *no key*/(T.R.A.M Unit) (mob_4) tended the wounds of BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) with internal tools (NEWHP: 92.5) (Port Tram Underpass (80,118,2))
In fact it's not even arguable this was dereliction of duty, you just completely stole away his HoP role on lowpop in under 10 minutes.
This appeal is denied.
- Archie700
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
Say logs:
You may raise this up to headmin appeal if you still feel this is unfair.
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[2024-12-22 13:21:37.925] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "captain" (Command Hallway (80,138,3))
[2024-12-22 13:21:40.659] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "GET BACK HERE AND BE THE CAPTAIN" (Central Tram Underpass (117,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:21:52.747] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "who's acting?" (Head of Personnel's Office (61,121,3))
[2024-12-22 13:21:57.450] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "You" (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:21:59.629] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "hey." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:02.712] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "take the disk" (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:07.776] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "no." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:10.188] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "youre the acting." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:12.091] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "No." (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:15.566] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "I delegate you for that task." (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:17.965] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "you can't refuse your duty." (Command Hallway (78,125,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:21.435] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "Try me." (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:29.464] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "take it or I'll arrest you from neglecting duty." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:37.732] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "I didn't sign up for Captaincy!!" (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:43.300] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "WELL THEY GAVE IT" (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:44.467] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "You'll never take me alive!!" (Port Tram Dock (76,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:46.362] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "YOU HAVE TO" (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:23:08.585] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "OUGHHH" (Port Tram Underpass (81,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:15.674] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "AAAAA" (Port Tram Underpass (81,118,2))
[2024-12-22 13:23:25.699] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "SAVE MEEE" (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:23:37.001] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "SAVE ME" (Brig (79,155,3))
[2024-12-22 13:23:40.331] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "AAAA" (Brig (80,153,3))
[2024-12-22 13:23:55.387] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "you don't wanna be?" (Security Office (79,159,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:00.034] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "then youre getting demoted." (Security Office (79,159,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:03.705] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "GOOD" (Security Office (79,158,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:10.495] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "That was the entire point!!" (Security Office (80,158,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:16.705] GAME-EMOTE: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) points at Garry Romaniev's ID Card (Head of Security) (Security Office (79,159,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:17.273] GAME-EMOTE: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) points at Lorlor Rakustdath (Security Office (79,159,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:18.666] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "My job is to fix IDs!!" (Security Office (80,159,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:18.839] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "take it." (Security Office (79,159,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:28.926] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "I'm demoting his ess." (Security Office (79,157,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:28.938] GAME-EMOTE: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) laughs. (Brig (79,156,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:31.087] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "don't be HoS." (Security Office (79,157,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:32.862] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "Just take it." (Security Office (79,157,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:42.080] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "You're demoting me for delegating command!" (Command Hallway (80,139,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:47.053] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "no." (Port Tram Dock (76,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:48.033] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "That's within the right of the Captain!" (Port Tram Dock (77,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:50.021] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "neglect of duty." (Port Tram Dock (76,123,3))
[2024-12-22 13:24:57.019] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "Delegating command is not neglecting duty!" (Head of Personnel's Office (62,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:25:15.852] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "asisstant." (Head of Personnel's Office (61,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:25:23.076] GAME-EMOTE: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) laughs. (Head of Personnel's Office (61,128,3))
[2024-12-22 13:25:35.776] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "I'm the captain you stupid fuck." (Head of Personnel's Office (60,128,3))
[2024-12-22 13:25:38.281] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "Crew! I am being demoted to Assistant for delegating the HoS as Command. He immediately assumed Captaincy afterwards." (Head of Personnel's Office (61,128,3))
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
[2024-12-22 13:21:59.629] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "hey." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:02.712] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "take the disk" (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:07.776] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "no." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:10.188] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "youre the acting." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:12.091] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "No." (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
That's my whole point there. I have repeated that in comms too.
He refused to take the disk BEFORE and AFTER I've had arrived. That's willing to refuse an obligated duty, and it has been neglected. I have landed, took my gear, walked around, there was enough time to prove that he purposely didn't secured the disk, as you have said if it was reasonable at 1 hour, it's not like 10 seconds either. It's also fail rp as well.
(edit: He had the intent to not securing the disk until he tossed me the ID, you can imagine after he said "you do it", Okay, I'm the captain now, but before I was the captain, you were the captain or at least had the spare, and you had the intent to abandon the disk. İntent is clear, I, as captain, demoted him for his intent of putting the station on danger by ignoring a disk that can destroy the entire station. That was my IC reasoning along with the law logs show that I have asked/warned him, it's not like "hey have you secured the disk", "no" *batons*, nothing spontaneous here)
also you haven't reduced the ban duration as it has passed 24h. (aka. 6 days remain)
And yes, I'd like to raise this up to headmin appeal because you haven't said which rule spescifically I broke apart from calling me a dick referring to 1st rule. And I also object that, ruining someone's game is an objective judgement (say, purposely leaving the disk at the desk ruin's my and other peoples game potentially) and I also do not think I have committed anything beyond in-character.
[2024-12-22 13:22:02.712] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "take the disk" (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:07.776] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "no." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:10.188] GAME-SAY: YavuzKaganY/(Garry Romaniev) (mob_3497) "youre the acting." (Port Tram Dock (78,124,3))
[2024-12-22 13:22:12.091] GAME-SAY: BlitzArde/(Braylon Watson) (mob_3425) "No." (Port Tram Dock (79,123,3))
That's my whole point there. I have repeated that in comms too.
He refused to take the disk BEFORE and AFTER I've had arrived. That's willing to refuse an obligated duty, and it has been neglected. I have landed, took my gear, walked around, there was enough time to prove that he purposely didn't secured the disk, as you have said if it was reasonable at 1 hour, it's not like 10 seconds either. It's also fail rp as well.
(edit: He had the intent to not securing the disk until he tossed me the ID, you can imagine after he said "you do it", Okay, I'm the captain now, but before I was the captain, you were the captain or at least had the spare, and you had the intent to abandon the disk. İntent is clear, I, as captain, demoted him for his intent of putting the station on danger by ignoring a disk that can destroy the entire station. That was my IC reasoning along with the law logs show that I have asked/warned him, it's not like "hey have you secured the disk", "no" *batons*, nothing spontaneous here)
also you haven't reduced the ban duration as it has passed 24h. (aka. 6 days remain)
And yes, I'd like to raise this up to headmin appeal because you haven't said which rule spescifically I broke apart from calling me a dick referring to 1st rule. And I also object that, ruining someone's game is an objective judgement (say, purposely leaving the disk at the desk ruin's my and other peoples game potentially) and I also do not think I have committed anything beyond in-character.
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
I said potentially, yet, it is for the lone op to spawn, the threat.
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
Brotha did you go to lavaland and lose the disk, not go back for it which led to Nuke ops arriving and destroying the station and then still make this argument?[2024-12-22 13:35:36.085] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk attempted to be moved out of bounds from (Station Asteroid (202,106,3)) to (Mining Shuttle (148,41,14)). Moving it to (Warehouse (186,138,3)).
[2024-12-22 13:52:50.451] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 1.
[2024-12-22 14:00:21.005] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 2.
[2024-12-22 14:04:06.714] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 3.
[2024-12-22 14:06:08.844] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 4.
[2024-12-22 14:06:22.860] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 5.
[2024-12-22 14:07:39.464] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 6.
[2024-12-22 14:10:22.972] GAME: The nuclear authentication disk was left unsecured in (Warehouse (186,138,3)). Weight of the Lone Operative event increased to 7.
[2024-12-22 14:30:36.360] GAME: <span class='boldannounce'>Rebooting World. Station destroyed by Nuclear Device.</span>
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
This is one of my favourite appeals of 2024. A true Christmas gift from top to bottom.
It has everything, including the Headmin of Scroogesec Past showing how your actions actually impacted the shift and others through spooky log flashbacks.
The true A Tgstation Carol experience.
Seems the chapter where you hit self realisation hasn't been written yet, though.
So my take as the Headmin of Scroogesec Present is you gotta change courses. Try to develop even a quantum of understanding about how your actions can not only negatively impact everyone else's shifts, but also impact your own. Like, you were the architect for the events for a nuke op to spawn in and ruin the shift.
So, try not doing that again. That's a good start.
It has everything, including the Headmin of Scroogesec Past showing how your actions actually impacted the shift and others through spooky log flashbacks.
The true A Tgstation Carol experience.
Seems the chapter where you hit self realisation hasn't been written yet, though.
So my take as the Headmin of Scroogesec Present is you gotta change courses. Try to develop even a quantum of understanding about how your actions can not only negatively impact everyone else's shifts, but also impact your own. Like, you were the architect for the events for a nuke op to spawn in and ruin the shift.
So, try not doing that again. That's a good start.
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
'twas the night before Secmas, and all through Command...
For real, though, please have some empathy for your fellow player. This has been a consistent issue with you for months in which you do not consider the fact that you are playing a Video Game with other Real Life People that can have their rounds ruined by oddly sadistic decisions. Consider this warning my Christmas gift to you— alongside a hopeful prayer that you will make others happier, instead of sadder, in the future.
For real, though, please have some empathy for your fellow player. This has been a consistent issue with you for months in which you do not consider the fact that you are playing a Video Game with other Real Life People that can have their rounds ruined by oddly sadistic decisions. Consider this warning my Christmas gift to you— alongside a hopeful prayer that you will make others happier, instead of sadder, in the future.
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
I already stated I was going to reduce it to a week as it was supposed to be a week. There will be no further reduction from me.yalanamalanas wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:37 am also you haven't reduced the ban duration as it has passed 24h. (aka. 6 days remain)
This is not because you convinced me, this is because I fucked up the ban. The original ban was supposed to be a week headban and secban. I fucked up by not checking and finding out that the secban that was supposed to be placed was not there. I do not feel like applying the secban because it feels unfair for me to retroactively apply one after the ban appeal.
The headmins will decide what will happen from there.
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Re: [Archie700] YavuzKaganY - Command Ban
For visibility sake I am posting here to inform everyone I updated the ban note to fix the length on it.
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