Lacran: The Player’s Min

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Lacran: The Player’s Min

Post by Lacran » #741925

Who am I?:

I’ve been an on and off player on Manuel for about 4 years now, I’ve been teaching silicon and navigating old silpol for 2 on the Manuelcord. My most notable static is Mary Megablade. A few of you have likely seen me arguing about things that don’t matter on the forums.

Why I’m running:

I think we’re in a pretty rough patch right now. What I think player’s need is a playermin who isn’t afraid to buttheads with people in authority if it can bring about a constructive change. There are many excellent admins and coders in this community, but I think there’s a lot of pressure to not stir the pot while headmin, because once your term is over, you still have to work in close proximity with those same people. Playing nice is generally prioritized over conflict, sometimes that conflict is avoided long enough that you get an inevitable clusterfuck and the people that suffer from it the most are the players.

People are passionate about this game and how it ought to be, genuinely some of the best headmins we’ve had are people willing to seek resolutions through conflict. One of the most promising signs for me that Keith4 was the right choice for our first player headmin, is when there was drama in his feedback thread.

My Goals:

First and foremost I want to advocate on behalf of players regarding changes, I don’t care if I have authority over a particular issue or not. A part of a player vote headmin’s role, in my mind, is to represent the community and their interests, this extends to code changes.

Regarding the Wallening: I have no ability to influence this beyond any other player, but just like any other player I’m going to say my piece on the matter:
It needs to be outright reverted. My opinion is that the most important thing is the trust between the community and the people in authority. This change and its implementation, as well as the conduct of the maintainers, has been appalling. The right step here is to revert the merge, and take a long break from this project. People on both sides are far too angry and upset to deal with this particular matter, and until maintainer’s have re-earned the trust of the playerbase, it should remain off the table as a show of good will. If not, forking should be seriously considered.

Potential Silpol tweaks: I’d personally like to see some of the older rulings from silpol readded, like metaprotecting silicons from clearly obnoxious orders, this prevents silicons from having to constantly get rule 1 (don’t be a dick) rulings from admins to avoid clearly terrible orders.

Pushing against “coin-toss” rulings: Situations where an admin could just as easily interpret a situation as within the rules as without, should always default to within the rules. Not doing so creates a domino effect of notes for behaviour that was initially, completely fine. As headmin I'll be opposing any negative 50/50 rulings.

Bagil as a player’s event workshop: I’ve blatantly stolen this from Dendy, because I love it.



What do I offer?:

I’ve spent my time here as an extremely rules minded player, I enjoy interpreting rules (hence silicon training) and arguing how the rules are, vs how they ought to be.This allows me to reasonably engage with admins while still remaining a fully player-aligned playermin.

My contributions to appeals as a player: (limited examples of policy interpretation)


To Policy (how I interpret and wish policy to be): My own appeals: (how I handle rule based conflict in a professional setting)
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Post by iansdoor » #741943

howdy there.

I will speak to you like I have with Dax. One big issue is that you kept a bad vibe and double, triple, quadruple down on such. I do appreciate that you haven't deflected anything in your opinions, with the information you have at hand. I will tell you, Headmin are the say-all in regards of culture and what to promote from admins and players. Understandably, you do need two others to agree with you to not be sandbagged in an important policy change or administrative action. As potential headmin, are you going to go the lengths to set the tone and the standard of that term or like Dax, once their wall issue is uncleared, regress back out of the light?

I also will give you the clear example of what I mean by the bad vibe. You are aware of two manuel headmin candidate that are helping wallstation and I am pretty sure you are aware of how their actions are. Dramazing has taken the leap to make sure that place wasn't a dumpsterfire without protection and how to public relations as an TG admin. she is there for the community that she has cares for. I haven't seen her spread negativity, doompost, or lord forbid, push around misinformation. I can only assume she disappointed on both sides like the rest. Right, my second question, so what would be your positive qualities that I missing from where I may be biased?
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Post by Lacran » #741963

iansdoor wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:28 am howdy there.

I will speak to you like I have with Dax. One big issue is that you kept a bad vibe and double, triple, quadruple down on such. I do appreciate that you haven't deflected anything in your opinions, with the information you have at hand. I will tell you, Headmin are the say-all in regards of culture and what to promote from admins and players. Understandably, you do need two others to agree with you to not be sandbagged in an important policy change or administrative action. As potential headmin, are you going to go the lengths to set the tone and the standard of that term or like Dax, once their wall issue is uncleared, regress back out of the light?

I also will give you the clear example of what I mean by the bad vibe. You are aware of two manuel headmin candidate that are helping wallstation and I am pretty sure you are aware of how their actions are. Dramazing has taken the leap to make sure that place wasn't a dumpsterfire without protection and how to public relations as an TG admin. she is there for the community that she has cares for. I haven't seen her spread negativity, doompost, or lord forbid, push around misinformation. I can only assume she disappointed on both sides like the rest. Right, my second question, so what would be your positive qualities that I missing from where I may be biased?
I'm sorry I'm struggling to understand your phrasing, I'm going to respond to the parts I think I do and if I'm wrong or miss anything please correct me.

Will I just dip after the wallening matter is addressed:

No, I've always been a player invested in policy and how it should/shouldn't be used, as headmin that gives me much more opportunities to interact with and influence policy, which I enjoy.

What are my positive qualities you might be missing:

Tbh, that's a really good question. I think something that's difficult to notice for people that don't know me well, is that I am a very conscientious and contemplative person. I've had run ins with multiple players and admins, but my goals in those disagreements and what I value is being transparent and showing a genuine desire to improve. I make a conscious and consistent effort to reward that kind of behaviour, which is usually reflected when I give an admin positive feedback.

I genuinely want to be fair to others, there's plenty of times as a player where I get really frustrated with a situation and take it out on someone else. I'm not trying to model my platform as someone who thinks being a bully is a good thing, especially not from a position of authority. Anger is an issue for me, and as a headmin I'd have a responsibility to treat everyone with more respect than I do as a player, that doesn't mean I cannot challenge them, it just means the line I draw in what I consider generally acceptable needs to change.

Avoiding conflict doesn't inherently make a person better, conflict is generally the most meaningful way to learn and gain a synthesis of ideas. The key there is knowing which battles to pick.

I think in the case of the issues we're facing now, a big contributor was not having that conflict sooner, and instead letting it fester.
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Post by iansdoor » #741985

Lacran wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:57 am
iansdoor wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:28 am -snip-
I'm sorry I'm struggling to understand your phrasing, I'm going to respond to the parts I think I do and if I'm wrong or miss anything please correct me.
I will be very clear, based on what you have said, you don't seem to be coming from a place of desperate intentions, which is good thing. But, when misinformation is passed around and you funnel that energy to keep fire going. This is why I have told you that you have bad vibes. If you are genuinely interested to turn opinions around, do more research and ask more questions to find out if something is true. A Headmin is ment to be calm, grounded and collect their thoughts. I know you reflect on dendy on their opinion to attach. So going forward, can you reduce this recent unconstructive negativity and be the bridge between everyone or is this just part of those run-ins that you cannot escape? You can give truths, but your bias has to go for the sake of the community.
Will I just dip after the wallening matter is addressed:

No, I've always been a player invested in policy and how it should/shouldn't be used, as headmin that gives me much more opportunities to interact with an influence policy, which I enjoy.
So this is similar to Lukas, though I'll admit he is on played considerably less probably 30 hours from what I saw this 6 months. So I expect more of the tone and standard to be set by you.

You should ask xemo on what they did as they were really pushing the meter. I would hope he could answer questions about player to headminning during his AAAAA time. I'll mention as all I did during their term was admin observer for 3 months. Biblemelts had alot to say and didn't take too much time to say what he ment. what I am saying is latch on xemo's leadership role, but not his actions during that time, I believe that would be very beneficial for you to know and understand going forward.
What are my positive qualities you might be missing:

Tbh, that's a really good question. I think something that's difficult to notice for people that don't know me well, is that I am a very conscientious and contemplative person. I've had run ins with multiple players and admins, but my goals in those disagreements and what I value is being transparent and showing a genuine desire to improve. I make a conscious and consistent effort to reward that kind of behaviour, which is usually reflected when I give an admin positive feedback.

I genuinely want to be fair to others, there's plenty of times as a player where I get really frustrated with a situation and take it out on someone else. I'm not trying to model my platform as someone who things being a bully is a good thing, especially not from a position of authority. Anger is an issue for me, and as a headmin I'd have a responsibility to treat everyone with more respect than I do as a player, that doesn't mean I cannot challenge them, it just means the line I draw in what I consider generally acceptable needs to change.
Alright, there is big issue of anger you mention. I respect honesty. If you are willing to work out the disagreements that don't end bitterness or bittersweet, I can see a good run for headmin. Just please mindful of your actions and words.

I will continue to watch your progress and I wish good luck against the others!
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Post by Lacran » #742011

Sometimes when feedback falls on deaf ears, that feedback needs to be louder. When people in positions of responsibility create large issues and treat them as small, the way to combat that is to make the issue too big to deny. That's what player backlash and the fork achieved, if you don't do those things they won't suddenly and miraculously change their mind.


I don't think I've spread misinformation, atleast not knowingly, I think I defended daxs posting player pops, which people consider misinformation because there was a DDoS. The reason I did so is the DDoS obviously did affect pops, but so did the people leaving to create a fork to play on instead of here, which was being deflected from.

Thank you for the advice Ian, I definitely agree I have alot to learn from people like Xemo.
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Lacran wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:58 am Sometimes when feedback falls on deaf ears, that feedback needs to be louder. When people in positions of responsibility create large issues and treat them as small, the way to combat that is to make the issue too big to deny. That's what player backlash and the fork achieved, if you don't do those things they won't suddenly and miraculously change their mind.


I don't think I've spread misinformation, atleast not knowingly, I think I defended daxs posting player pops, which people consider misinformation because there was a DDoS. The reason I did so is the DDoS obviously did affect pops, but so did the people leaving to create a fork to play on instead of here, which was being deflected from.

Thank you for the advice Ian, I definitely agree I have alot to learn from people like Xemo.
I do understand that feeling well from my own communities schism'ing. Thank you for your time to respond to those questions, alot of good candidates! what a surprise.
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Post by RaveRadbury » #743585

You've really put yourself out there in this election and I think it's cool to know the person behind the kiwi avatar a little better.

You are an admin over at Wallstation. How has the experience changed your views on administration?

Would you ever consider being an admin here? Do you see any barriers for yourself to adminning here?
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Post by Lacran » #743611

RaveRadbury wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:10 am You've really put yourself out there in this election and I think it's cool to know the person behind the kiwi avatar a little better.

You are an admin over at Wallstation. How has the experience changed your views on administration?

Would you ever consider being an admin here? Do you see any barriers for yourself to adminning here?
Thanks, it's not normally something I'm comfortable doing.

Wallstation staff first and foremost taught me how important giving people a chance to surprise me was. I never would've dreamed working in a team with those people, and honestly they did an Incredible job.

I've adminned in other games but never ss13. So I was really surprised how busy things could get regarding the tickets. From the player perspective I never really got why replies took so long but there's alot to log diving and juggling tickets that I never thought about.

I've considered applying. I think for someone that hasn't adminned here I have a very good eye for rules and their general application. From what I've read the priority is being able to work within the current team well. There's many admins I really like, but others I'm wary about.

I think I could add alot to the team, but generally I've seen some of my favourite players become admins and just lose all passion for playing. My favourite thing in this game is admin events and playing goofy roleplay oriented roles. Playing a prison bard with Dunham and a racist Tirizan Princess with pumpkin0 were my favourite experiences, I'm not sure how often I'd end up in those positions as an admin long term, as I wouldn't want to take up event slots for players.

If things regarding the election don't work out I might reconsider.
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