Introducing the Space Station 13 Demake you've all been waiting for.

[Eskjjlj]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Blue bananas are tier 3 but sell for only 27 coins which is worse than any tier 2 plant... hmmmm

[oranges]

mso is a simp

[BONERMASTER]

This is fine, as long as I can hit him with a baseball bat and get exp for it.

[nianjiilical]

im already a fan of dark purple slime + shotgun since dark purples seem like they throw out the balance of strong and slow vs fast and weak

chemistry feels like the most annoying thing to train atm but i havent pushed for it much, cooking on the other hand is going to be my first lv50 just because pasta is so easy to grind

greytiding + tinkering to sell flammable junk feels like the best money maker i found early on, after one night of afk mining iron i had enough money to last a good while and enough mining exp to afk mine higher level stuff and at that point money was solved

in general combat trains way way slower than everything else and ive had loads of equipment way before ive had the evasion stat needed to wear them and i think thats my only real complaint, i dunno how exactly it needs to be tweaked but it feels like combat stats level way slower than everything else, maybe lower the evasion stat requirement but add other stat requirements? something like needing 5 evasion 5 power instead of 10 evasion, i dont know

either way im greatly enjoying this and you did a fantastic job on it

[Eskjjlj]

You don't have to grind chemistry, you can just tide a volatile catalyst then make more of them as you need them.

[nianjiilical]

You don't have to grind chemistry, you can just tide a volatile catalyst then make more of them as you need them.

yeah as soon as i made that post i unlocked volatile catalysts and wow that sure is a thing im now using to grind space lube

also a lot of the ways to make electricity seem kind of redundant mechanically, but im glad theyre in for the *deep lore*

[Nabski]

Do you have any idea how jarring it is to browse through a game only to have your real actual name come up as one of the characters

Also I made a pr moving Glover back to chem and adding my best friend as botany. Don't at me.

I at'd you before I saw this post whoops.

Also throwback to the time as an admin a player took my real life name and claimed it was randomized, causing me and three other admins to look through code to figure out if that was even possible (spoiler it was not).

Blue bananas are tier 3 but sell for only 27 coins which is worse than any tier 2 plant... hmmmm

I'll fix it in the next big bug batch. Minor fixes are on hold while we are working on a new feature. If anyone could quickly explain how hats and hair are supposed to work that would be useful. We're assuming everything over a certain point gets cut off currently.

Feedback

Your overall DPS remains constant regardless of attackspeed, it's a balance about ammo and how much you want to overkill the enemy since overkills don't grant extra XP. Combat and Non-combat are supposed to take equal amounts of time to level.

Regarding power I wanted to make it a requirement for every job but tinkering and greytiding but that was NOT fun with the current set up. Don't trash your power too carelessly I promise it has further purposes.

[wesoda25]

it's too hard to level up your combat skills, way more timely than other jobs and stuff

[Space Panda]

it's too hard to level up your combat skills, way more timely than other jobs and stuff

just like in the original game

[cacogen]

I'm so glad I got in on the ground floor of this thing. The new customisation option you just updated with needs eye colour and more hairs but you know that

[cacogen]

the portable generator uses power to create even more power and not uranium or plasma

[PKPenguin321]

the portable generator uses power to create even more power and not uranium or plasma

seems deliberate seeing as it's in the renewable energy section

[nianjiilical]

bananium being edible and better than so much of the food, combined with the fact that mining can be afk'd overnight, kind of makes it the best way to trivialize the food system imo

not that it really needs a nerf but unless its top tier stuff it doesnt feel worth fucking with botany seeds and multiple plants once mining is maxed

[PKPenguin321]

bananium being edible and better than so much of the food, combined with the fact that mining can be afk'd overnight, kind of makes it the best way to trivialize the food system imo

not that it really needs a nerf but unless its top tier stuff it doesnt feel worth fucking with botany seeds and multiple plants once mining is maxed

the stat hits are pretty notable though, i run bluespace tomatos because damage is kind of a dump stat (you can just roll 1s even if you have high damage so not much point to it) and precision seems to be very very important so that you don't roll 0s by missing all the time + 30 HP healing seems to be enough

[Screemonster]

bananium being edible and better than so much of the food, combined with the fact that mining can be afk'd overnight, kind of makes it the best way to trivialize the food system imo

not that it really needs a nerf but unless its top tier stuff it doesnt feel worth fucking with botany seeds and multiple plants once mining is maxed

the stat hits are pretty notable though, i run bluespace tomatos because damage is kind of a dump stat (you can just roll 1s even if you have high damage so not much point to it) and precision seems to be very very important so that you don't roll 0s by missing all the time + 30 HP healing seems to be enough

shitty food with awful stat effects but decent healing is great for greytiding though

[wesoda25]

I completely skipped greytiding and tinkering, neither are efficient or worthwhile

[Screemonster]

tiding in botany is a decent way to get your first batches of seeds when you're not earning enough to just buy them

tinkering is good when you're going back to beat up weaker enemies to grind stats since you don't have to worry about the huge movement slowdown that comes with using a mech

[wesoda25]

If your inventory is full and you try and make something, upon completion the ingredients are used up, but you don't get the item.

[Nabski]

Ugh I could have sworn we fixed that one. What job was this on and when did you last refresh the page.

In other news, PLEASE CLOSE YOUR PAGE OR REFRESH FROM TIME TO TIME SO YOU CAN GET UPDATES.

[wesoda25]

I was making a mech, but i just refreshed and got the update message so I assume its fixed now

[Kel]

Ugh I could have sworn we fixed that one. What job was this on and when did you last refresh the page.

In other news, PLEASE CLOSE YOUR PAGE OR REFRESH FROM TIME TO TIME SO YOU CAN GET UPDATES.

refreshing is how my mechs mysteriously all went up in evasion requirements though, why would i ever subject myself to such a penalty ever again

[Sheodir]

The nwe update made the game eye searingly white and dark mode only makes random boxes black how do I make it go back fuck go back

edit: look at this garbage "dark mode"

[youtube]0MjpOZT6W9w[/youtube]

[Nabski]

Sheodir what browser are you useing?

WHERE IS THE BACKGROUND?!

[Sheodir]

Sheodir what browser are you useing?

WHERE IS THE BACKGROUND?!

I'm using Brave which iirc uses a Chromium base
Idk man it's missing

EDIT: it's fixed now for some reason go figure

EDIT 2x combo: also supermatter anomalies take way too long to kill even like 40 robustness levels above this is a pain

[Nabski]

Please look at the type of weapon you are using, then the resistance it has. Let me know when you figure it out.

[Sheodir]

I am a fucking moron

[PKPenguin321]

The nwe update made the game eye searingly white and dark mode only makes random boxes black how do I make it go back fuck go back

edit: look at this garbage "dark mode"

Spoiler:

[youtube]0MjpOZT6W9w[/youtube]

>he doesnt have dark reader installed

Spoiler:

[PKPenguin321]

bananium being edible and better than so much of the food, combined with the fact that mining can be afk'd overnight, kind of makes it the best way to trivialize the food system imo

not that it really needs a nerf but unless its top tier stuff it doesnt feel worth fucking with botany seeds and multiple plants once mining is maxed

the stat hits are pretty notable though, i run bluespace tomatos because damage is kind of a dump stat (you can just roll 1s even if you have high damage so not much point to it) and precision seems to be very very important so that you don't roll 0s by missing all the time + 30 HP healing seems to be enough

shitty food with awful stat effects but decent healing is great for greytiding though

ANYTHING is good for greytiding if you just buy the upgrades/use the chem so you dont fail so much, i run plain tomatoes for it and it's full afk at 39% fail chance (24% with thermite) and 400~ max HP

[Farquaar]

It's pretty cool to see some of the sprites I made in a fun project like this one.

[Nabski]

Oh neat, what did you make that I used?

Is there anything else you're particularly proud of I should use?

[Farquaar]

So far I've seen the Robes of the Honkmother on the funny clown.
I made a mouse-pocket sprite (donk-pocket made from a dead mouse) that might be a fun addition. The PR was made by Coconutwarrior to add them to the game, but I think it got closed for some reason or other.

[Nabski]

I'm about to be adding more characters. If you want to get in the game then either go to the discord and read the stuff in sprite requests, or you can do it here in the spoiler. PM me after that or put it in discord.

Spoiler:

It's time for me to start gearing up some additional enemies and bosses.
An easy to clean up sprite can and will make the difference between me using it, and not, so here's how to get good pictures of your character.
1. Set your scaling to 1x1 in the preferences menu. 2x2 or 3x3 works but don't use stretch to fit as it causes some WEIRDNESS that is a hassle to remove.
2. Go to the holodeck and set it to picture gallery.
3. Face forward.
4. Be clean of blood and item damage.
5. Don't have those pink belts caused by icon issues.
6. If you are on a custom server or don't care about your character, ghost then turn off shadows and huds.
7. Post it in submissions
Now in no real order I need the following
Boss zone one: Revolution
No required specifics here, just look like a rev in a normal rev round. Things that let me use fun titles help. There will be at least one quartermaster
Boss zone 4: Nuke Ops
Turtleneck+some gear
hardsuit+some gear
elite hardsuit+some gear
boss zone 5: Cult
I'm looking for either clock or bloodcult.
For bloodcult I'll want one with only the hand/blindfold active
red eyes+some more cult gear
full on cult. If you manage to get a gif with the halo you're my hero.
For clockcult
No-one has this sprites anymore, but the basic starter outfit, and maybe some midgame stuff like the glasses
Boss zone six: Wiz Biz
Skeletons
Stand
Wizard stuff
Wizard stuff
Wizard stuff
Just look cool
Non boss zones wants. Look like an average person of this job.
Bartender
Assistant running a shop (don't make this too busy/cluttered/meta)
More Cargo
Curator
Prisoner
Lawyer
More Science
More head of staff

[saprasam]

I'm about to be adding more characters. If you want to get in the game then either go to the discord and read the stuff in sprite requests, or you can do it here in the spoiler. PM me after that or put it in discord.

Spoiler:

It's time for me to start gearing up some additional enemies and bosses.
An easy to clean up sprite can and will make the difference between me using it, and not, so here's how to get good pictures of your character.
1. Set your scaling to 1x1 in the preferences menu. 2x2 or 3x3 works but don't use stretch to fit as it causes some WEIRDNESS that is a hassle to remove.
2. Go to the holodeck and set it to picture gallery.
3. Face forward.
4. Be clean of blood and item damage.
5. Don't have those pink belts caused by icon issues.
6. If you are on a custom server or don't care about your character, ghost then turn off shadows and huds.
7. Post it in submissions
Now in no real order I need the following
Boss zone one: Revolution
No required specifics here, just look like a rev in a normal rev round. Things that let me use fun titles help. There will be at least one quartermaster
Boss zone 4: Nuke Ops
Turtleneck+some gear
hardsuit+some gear
elite hardsuit+some gear
boss zone 5: Cult
I'm looking for either clock or bloodcult.
For bloodcult I'll want one with only the hand/blindfold active
red eyes+some more cult gear
full on cult. If you manage to get a gif with the halo you're my hero.
For clockcult
No-one has this sprites anymore, but the basic starter outfit, and maybe some midgame stuff like the glasses
Boss zone six: Wiz Biz
Skeletons
Stand
Wizard stuff
Wizard stuff
Wizard stuff
Just look cool
Non boss zones wants. Look like an average person of this job.
Bartender
Assistant running a shop (don't make this too busy/cluttered/meta)
More Cargo
Curator
Prisoner
Lawyer
More Science
More head of staff

dibs on revolutionary

[Tarchonvaagh]

Good job dude

[cacogen]

You could make it so each character has multiple names the game could choose from. More people would get to be in it. I would like to be an HoP if/when it's added

[delaron]

Having a blast Kudos on the idea execution!

[teepeepee]

I'm loving it, favourite skill by far is graytiding, although they're all very similar, since you mostly just click and wait for everything, but graytiding has this lootbox mechanic of maybe getting a cool item, maybe getting trash (tinkering takes so fucking long to level holy shit) or maybe getting hit.
Thanks for making this, nabski and tabski!

[Sheodir]

A few pieces of feedback from what I believe to be solid midgame material.

Far too many enemies have resistance to energy weapons, making kinetic kinda the default for everything but the supermatter anomaly for this stage of the game. Most resistance items (gloves, pets, etc) are too minor to have noticeable effects and going for power/precision boosts is always always worth more, specially just direct health boost.

Tinkering is absolutely useless and there is little reason to use it past the first few tiers. The movement penalty really isn't enough to discourage just using whatever heavy mech is available at any one time, specially given how bosses work. There is no real reason statistically speaking to use melee weapons over ranged ones because making ammo is absurdly fast and easy to stock up on like 3000 shells and not worry about anything. Cooking is mathematically not that viable because power levelling botany and just eating the ingredients directly will get you through most of the midgame just fine.

The jump between low tier and high tier graytide gear is a bit sudden and massive and there are clearly superior items amidst the bunch (like insuls on the first half tier).

EDIT: Also, farming for code green passes is a pain. More enemies should have a low chance to drop a single one on low tiers, because farming Braindead Assistants for em gets pretty dull.

[cacogen]

this idle game shows far more understanding and appreciation of the game and its culture than most coders ever have

[terranaut]

did you wipe cookies cause i f5'd and got an update and now i'm back to zero and dont wanna play anymore

[Screemonster]

I'm loving it, favourite skill by far is graytiding, although they're all very similar, since you mostly just click and wait for everything, but graytiding has this lootbox mechanic of maybe getting a cool item, maybe getting trash (tinkering takes so fucking long to level holy shit) or maybe getting hit.
Thanks for making this, nabski and tabski!

greytiding medical is by far the best source of meat in the game once you've got some thermite and hacking tools together

the one thing I'd like to see is an option to automatically set chrono to x1 if your actions are halted for whatever reason like running out of ingredients

[teepeepee]

I don't understand the chrono thing
I clicked around the different speeds or whatever those are supposed to be and nothing changed
I also dismissed the tutorial without reading it so I'm very lost

[terranaut]

the chrono thing stores time when you're not playing (when the tab isn't open)
if you have stored time it speeds up the game and uses up the stored time so you can grind faster

[Nabski]

did you wipe cookies cause i f5'd and got an update and now i'm back to zero and dont wanna play anymore

All your data is stored locally. Did you change browsers or were playing incognito?

A few pieces of feedback from what I believe to be solid midgame material.

Far too many enemies have resistance to energy weapons, making kinetic kinda the default for everything but the supermatter anomaly for this stage of the game. Most resistance items (gloves, pets, etc) are too minor to have noticeable effects and going for power/precision boosts is always always worth more, specially just direct health boost.

Tinkering is absolutely useless and there is little reason to use it past the first few tiers. The movement penalty really isn't enough to discourage just using whatever heavy mech is available at any one time, specially given how bosses work. There is no real reason statistically speaking to use melee weapons over ranged ones because making ammo is absurdly fast and easy to stock up on like 3000 shells and not worry about anything. Cooking is mathematically not that viable because power levelling botany and just eating the ingredients directly will get you through most of the midgame just fine.

The jump between low tier and high tier graytide gear is a bit sudden and massive and there are clearly superior items amidst the bunch (like insuls on the first half tier).

EDIT: Also, farming for code green passes is a pain. More enemies should have a low chance to drop a single one on low tiers, because farming Braindead Assistants for em gets pretty dull.

Yes I'm not happy about how I ended up assigning resistances. I'm going to revist that at some point.
I still haven't done the math, but I think your effective combat xp/second between the two skills is about equal.
I'm hoping to expand more on the unique pills like happy pills which ranged are just unable to use. These bring melee up to ranged in power level and are even easier to craft.
You're still midgame on the cooking part so I'm not unhappy about that.
No comment on the tide gear I'm pretty happy with how that goes.
There's a big boss update coming today.

[terranaut]

did you wipe cookies cause i f5'd and got an update and now i'm back to zero and dont wanna play anymore

All your data is stored locally. Did you change browsers or were playing incognito?

No to both, I know it's stored locally I just thought you changed something and invalidated the cookies but since learned it's not even stored in a cookie. I haven't changed or touched anything, no clue why it was nuked. Sad!

[Nabski]

did you wipe cookies cause i f5'd and got an update and now i'm back to zero and dont wanna play anymore

All your data is stored locally. Did you change browsers or were playing incognito?

No to both, I know it's stored locally I just thought you changed something and invalidated the cookies but since learned it's not even stored in a cookie. I haven't changed or touched anything, no clue why it was nuked. Sad!

Do you have any idea of what your stats and stuff were? I can try to recreate an import file for you, or you can use my save if you want. Hollar at me on discord so I can send you files.

[terranaut]

did you wipe cookies cause i f5'd and got an update and now i'm back to zero and dont wanna play anymore

All your data is stored locally. Did you change browsers or were playing incognito?

No to both, I know it's stored locally I just thought you changed something and invalidated the cookies but since learned it's not even stored in a cookie. I haven't changed or touched anything, no clue why it was nuked. Sad!

Do you have any idea of what your stats and stuff were? I can try to recreate an import file for you, or you can use my save if you want. Hollar at me on discord so I can send you files.

I was close to done anyway, I had 50s on everything except xenobio and validhunting but getting close there. I was gonna complete those and then unlock the mystery skill to sate my curiosity, instead I just used cheats to see what it was.

Spoiler:

I was hoping it'd be AI related, I wanted to be in the game...

Thank you for the offer of making an import file for me though.

[Sheodir]

so I didn't check what the heritage (lavaland) crate could give and just fucking farmed code blue and lavaland bosses to get exotic parts to roll a box

dude this box is horseshit there's like one decent pet with an absurdly high chance and maybe the clownsuit is worth it nothing else, I got fucking flammable trash

I am livid did I get trolled

[oranges]

he bought

[trollbreeder]

he bought

Good. Crash the market with a syndicate nuclear attack when he is sleeping. We will see about it tommorow.

[Nabski]

You've got about a 25% chance of getting an item unique item to that crate, then the rest is just filler.

We basically did crash the market today.

[flash=]PATCH 1.2[/flash]
We've almost doubled the number of enemies in the game since original release.
There is now also chronoresets. We haven't figured out the name for it but reset your progress and get permanent boosts like the ability to store more hours or spend time faster.