people that always play the same character

Space Panda · Post by **Space Panda** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:42 pm #568130

how do you feel about people that play the same character every round?
do you feel most of your experiences with these people have been positive or do you feel they have been negative?

i believe that specially in mrp servers like manuel it might influence your perception and relationship with those characters in a meta way
and depending on the character it may get kinda annoying to hear the same stuff and same story over and over again

also fuck jack anton

SkeletalElite · Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:08 pm

statics are no different to random character players, some statics are just more memorable than others.

Post by **Armhulen** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:10 pm #568132

I know i'm always gonna be grouchy and salty about it buuut

Yet another round, Hanna Tireman, Mike Murdock, Brick Carr, all assistants, immediately fucking with security trying to fight people. Metafriends are annoying but whatever i'm over it it's really just an attribution to the fact that player vs player conflict is the best part of the game and the rest of the game falls flat, so starting conflict is fun no matter how reasonable it is

Mickyan · Post by **Mickyan** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:30 pm #568135

Making friends and foes you recognize will enrich your experience far more than treating every round as a competition in a vacuum

It does become a problem when it's repeatedly used to get an edge over others or overtakes the normal flow of the round, even with behaviors that aren't necessarily against the rules (i.e. friends helping each other regardless of antagonist status, giving special treatment to your friends over others)

Post by **Armhulen** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:33 pm #568136

Mickyan wrote:Making friends and foes you recognize will enrich your experience far more than treating every round as a competition in a vacuum

(giving special treatment to your friends over others)

this is the issue when the assistants are trying to fuck with security and arresting one means fighting the entire group, and they're then going to have a reason to fight security for the rest of the round

AGAIN IT'S A ME PROBLEM

remanseptim · Post by **remanseptim** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:34 pm #568137

i'm zachary chester, the amazing static-naming cat

Nabski · Post by **Nabski** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:49 pm #568140

remanseptim wrote:i'm zachary chester, the amazing static-naming cat

Still not amazing, still forced. It's as bad as when Janice Lean tried to put 'foxy' in the middle of their name.

Mickyan · Post by **Mickyan** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:50 pm #568141

Armhulen wrote:AGAIN IT'S A ME PROBLEM

I don't think it's a you problem, I always found it very frustrating that most admins will demand such high standards from security but assistants can get away with greytiding in groups on a daily basis

I would hazard a guess that's part of the reason why barely anyone wants to play security and half the server mains assistant

Eskjjlj · Post by **Eskjjlj** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:01 pm #568143

You're free to slug the tide if it proves to be violent.

Shadowflame909 · Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:08 pm

Statics just tell me that someones robust, and gives me more of a bond with said player

Except all those that change the last name of my static. They should not do that.

wesoda25 · Post by **wesoda25** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:14 pm #568147

If you have ever static named even just for two rounds I hate you and hope you get hit by a garbage truck

Post by **RaveRadbury** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:22 pm #568151

saprasam · Post by **saprasam** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:18 pm #568160

Armhulen wrote:I know i'm always gonna be grouchy and salty about it buuut

Yet another round, Hanna Tireman, Mike Murdock, Brick Carr, all assistants, immediately fucking with security trying to fight people. Metafriends are annoying but whatever i'm over it it's really just an attribution to the fact that player vs player conflict is the best part of the game and the rest of the game falls flat, so starting conflict is fun no matter how reasonable it is

wow i dont get recognized i see how it is

bobbahbrown · Post by **bobbahbrown** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 pm #568165

Mickyan wrote:
Armhulen wrote:AGAIN IT'S A ME PROBLEM
I don't think it's a you problem, I always found it very frustrating that most admins will demand such high standards from security but assistants can get away with greytiding in groups on a daily basis

I would hazard a guess that's part of the reason why barely anyone wants to play security and half the server mains assistant

as a player who plays security a lot i would say that the admins don't really go through all your actions as security with a fine-toothed comb; i feel we are (appropriately) given quite a bit of leeway when it comes to dealing with greytides and other related dummies

though this could just be the result of my playstyle, and my personal experiences.

best wishes,
bobbah

Malkraz · Post by **Malkraz** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am #568176

rock steel is eternal

confused rock · Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:07 am

Mickyan wrote:Making friends and foes you recognize will enrich your experience far more than treating every round as a competition in a vacuum

I've almost never seen someone start a rivalry with another player that didn't involve one of them waiting for the day the other is permabanned.

I almost wanted to say I had one with eileen "moron" voron but then I remembered the reason we hate each other is for a conflict we had when I was playing a different character, I thought what she did was wrong on an ooc level in that round, and that when I considered the idea of us hating each other could be a fun thing she got personally insulted by THAT too.

DrPillzRedux · Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:10 am

Still remember years back when people thought the ligger gang were all on metacomms because they hung out at the same spot every round. Also because they'd find each other in lockers, but when you play the same map for 4+ years, you know where to look for bodies.

OhChildflayer · Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:10 am

Jayson Gibson. You have an actual, literal fucking dent in your skull. I was on station for literally one minute, and just got into my office (HoP) before you came in and arrested me for being in the HoP office. I asked you to check the manifest, but you decided we should stand there for ten minutes before you left me naked and handcuffed in a hallway that had no air. You have no business playing a head role, because you have genuine, real-life brain damage, you unbelievable retard.

Jack7D1 · Post by **Jack7D1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am #568183

I like having friends. Community is my main reason of playing this game.

Post by **oranges** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:31 am #568186

I have played the same character since 2011

confused rock · Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:31 am

what, a ghost?

Post by **oranges** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:44 am #568192

no a cunt

confused rock · Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:46 am

I considered that possibility can we compromise and say cunt ghost

Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:49 am

On the opposite end there are some people who randomname but it's unclear why, because they clearly enjoy being able to recognize people from previous rounds. Met this fella who had a static appearance but changed his name between shifts and it was always a bit odd when he'd wave to me like I was supposed to recognize him (which I did OOCly, but refrained from doing ICly).

Post by **TWATICUS** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:50 am #568198

arm you best not be talking about the actual rp filled purple gang takeover, trying to paint it as "just assistants fucking with sec ecks dee" because you know damn well that wasnt just tiding and trying to fight people

cybersaber101 · Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:58 am

Space Panda wrote:how do you feel about people that play the same character every round?
do you feel most of your experiences with these people have been positive or do you feel they have been negative?

i believe that specially in mrp servers like manuel it might influence your perception and relationship with those characters in a meta way
and depending on the character it may get kinda annoying to hear the same stuff and same story over and over again

also fuck jack anton

Who the fuck actually are you, you uncanny bastard.

Post by **Armhulen** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:58 am #568211

TWATICUS wrote:arm you best not be talking about the actual rp filled purple gang takeover, trying to paint it as "just assistants fucking with sec ecks dee" because you know damn well that wasnt just tiding and trying to fight people

the fact that you think it was that round and not the round before or after that round demonstrates my point perfectly

Kendrickorium · Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:58 am

if you're trying to fight against Hanna Tireman, Mike Murdock, or Brick Carr, you might be doing things wrong.

Post by **TWATICUS** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:58 am #568229

why would it be about the round before or after? the round after every person you mentioned was part of a team antag so it would be really dumb on your part to try and use that as an example. the round before, one(1) person you mentioned was an assistant. infact, mike was a fucking sec officer for that round. and the round before that? mike wasnt even playing. you are absolutely referring to the round i mentioned before.

dont get me wrong, i agree with the problem of the 'fucking with sec as assistant' trend since ive done a shitload of it over the years. but ill be damned if you take this round which involved a makeshift purple gang, random crew members offering to be our hostages, hop and sec(y'know the ones you said we were just fucking with) delivering us donuts, and disregard all the RP inbetween and fun had on both sides just so you can strip it down to have a vague example to go along with your salt post. if you want to namedrop me and complain about how i play, then do it about a round thats actually worth complaining about because im sure theres been plenty.

Post by **TWATICUS** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:13 am #568231

ok sorry if my post sounds too angry lov u arm
please take this photo of cat and frog(its us)

ArcaneDefence · Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:31 am

Post by **Armhulen** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:56 am #568234

Spoiler:

well your really big frogge cat picture was cute so i'm gonna stop wasting time on my post trying to prove that consistently a swarm of people in assorted colors with no job attack security before the 10 minute mark

Spoiler:

Post by **Armhulen** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:58 am #568235

also from the round the hos mike arrested you, this is hilarious
[2020-07-03 05:56:27.422] SAY: 05:56:27.422] SAY: Twaticus/(Hanna Tireman) "wow i forgot how insufferable you can be mike" (Brig (200,133,2))

Post by **Naloac** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:10 am #568240

All my homies hate youtubers or players with a red panda as their avatar

Post by **Armhulen** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:15 am #568241

yo this is some good shit

Flatulent · Post by **Flatulent** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:13 pm #568266

British youtuber wrote:All my homies hate youtubers

?

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:18 pm #568330

i don't know why i'd care unless that character is a cunt

Huebone · Post by **Huebone** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:56 am #568454

Space Panda wrote:how do you feel about people that play the same character every round?
do you feel most of your experiences with these people have been positive or do you feel they have been negative?

Usually positive, I don’t notice people unless I’ve seen them repeatedly. I am one of those static characters, why? Because

NSFW:

I like making friends. Eventually you can team up and shit on lavaland to fight megafauna. You can’t just do that with a stranger.

wesoda25 · Post by **wesoda25** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:11 am #568455

I thought about it a bit and static naming isn't inherently bad, but people can (and do) make it so. Space friends is great and all until you have the same group of people hooking up every round doing the same thing - this goes for shitters tiding, "cutesy" players sitting in the bar or whatever, so on and so forth. I think in a sense it goes against the nature of the game - what with paranoia and all - but no one would play if you couldn't static name. If anything, I greatly prefer players with numerous static characters with certain gimmicks and personalities than those who mesh whatever they want into one character. I say this with a certain amount hypocrisy having played so much time on one character (and many of the above grievances applying to me), but then I barely do such things anymore, and enjoyed myself with other characters, so maybe I'm in a position to speak a little.

Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:51 am

I basically do what wesoda just said. Rotate characters and roles and keep them vaguely the same consistency unless I forget which character I picked. Hell, one of them I adamantly wish I didn't have to ever play antag on since he is explicitly a character I play as a staunch good fella. Unfortunately dynamic has other ideas and there aren't always admins.

confused rock · Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:42 pm

The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

Space Panda · Post by **Space Panda** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:50 pm #568487

confused rock wrote:The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

you are not forced to use a randomized name when playing as an antag

confused rock · Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:09 pm

nobody should be allowed to do it

Jack7D1 · Post by **Jack7D1** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:14 pm #568497

That is considered metagaming on everyone else's part.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:19 pm #568498

confused rock wrote:The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.

wasn't this to help people like sec mains who only ever play sec unless they happen to roll antag, meaning people instantly knew they were antag if they happened to not be sec in a given round

i don't actually know if this is the case but i remember hearing something about it once

confused rock · Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:12 pm

I don't think so.

I'm someone who plays sec a TON but this isn't an issue for me since I could either turn syndicate off entirely or do what I do which is play other jobs occasionally so it isn't a logical thing to think. Hell the guy I know who plays HoS almost exclusively doesn't do either of these things, if he's an assistant it's safe to assume he's an antagonist since he doesn't use the random thing.
And yeah it's metagaming but saying that won't fucking stop people from trusting those they know physically can't be antags. You can't prove they're not just a trusting person or anything like that. Hell nobody is going to take extra precautions when they know someone can't be an antag.

Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:20 pm

It was made by Naloac because quite literally people wouldn't stop targeting their static endlessly regardless of whether they were antag or not because they were a notable antag player. And they play mostly assistant I'm pretty sure. Only thing is that they should have implemented random body random name in a way that you couldn't lock features for it.

Either way, being a random body random name is dreadful and seeing them about really takes me out of the game just because of how dreadful they look. With no limitations on body combinations they stick out worse than statics do, and are some of my prime suspects because they chose to look like a mulligan. This is why Mulligan toxin also doesn't work, it makes you way too obvious.

cacogen · Post by **cacogen** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:37 pm #568510

Space Panda wrote:
confused rock wrote:The change I despise most out of any chance to the game, ever, is the one that makes your name randomised when you get antag which also means you can say someone definitely ISN'T an antag since they have their static name. This is fucking disgusting. It should never reach the point where your friends 300% wholeheartedly trust you. You can always stab them in the back, and you usually should.
you are not forced to use a randomized name when playing as an antag

this ui is so cluttered and ugly it needs a symbol or something

confused rock · Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:13 am

I disagree cacogen. you have to edit those settings only rarely.

cybersaber101 · Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:40 am

NecromancerAnne wrote:It was made by Naloac because quite literally people wouldn't stop targeting their static endlessly regardless of whether they were antag or not because they were a notable antag player. And they play mostly assistant I'm pretty sure. Only thing is that they should have implemented random body random name in a way that you couldn't lock features for it.

Either way, being a random body random name is dreadful and seeing them about really takes me out of the game just because of how dreadful they look. With no limitations on body combinations they stick out worse than statics do, and are some of my prime suspects because they chose to look like a mulligan. This is why Mulligan toxin also doesn't work, it makes you way too obvious.

Seems about right, but it doesnt stop you from just using the mirror