Simple Questions Thread

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:11 am #48507

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Raven776 wrote:The gibbed bits will be poisonous!

That is... so convoluted yet plausible for murder...

Ergovisavi · Post by **Ergovisavi** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:17 am #48530

Cipher3 wrote:
Raven776 wrote:The gibbed bits will be poisonous!
That is... so convoluted yet plausible for murder...

If you want to take this a bit further, you can do some silly stuff. Take corpse. Stab with our new sleepypens, that contain mute toxin. Throw the corpse in the gibber. The mute toxin will be in the meat. Grind up the meat in your blender. Put the resultant blended stuff in your condiment machine. You now have an isolated bottle of mute toxin. Obtain dropper. Find someone without eye protection. Stun, spray them in the eyes, murder.

Of course, the ultimate fuck you, is mixing Beepsky smash with the mute toxin (So people don't recognize the victim as being stunned), throw it in a hypospray (Murder the CMO), and now you've got an incredibly bullshit murder tool.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:13 am #48547

Raven776 wrote:
Zsword wrote:okay, follow up question, still medical related: do chems metabolise in a dead body still? Or could I say Inaprov someone as I'm trying to defib them to help prevent that whole 'immediatly take crit oxyloss ded' thing?
Chems do not metabolize in a dead body. What does this mean? INAP DEFIB! (Or any healing chemical will work, dexalin or dexalin+ being good ones). OOOOOR you can shoot a body up with DD and healing chemicals and then give it to the chef (or traitor chemist? Plasma/toxins and leave it in the morgue). The gibbed bits will be poisonous!

I've got questions of my own

What drinks give special effects? I know beepsky smash, neurotoxin, and doctor's delight. I've heard that anti freeze keeps you cold in hot temperatures (or was it warm in cold temperatures?) But does amasec, silencer, or a toxins special have anything special about it?

Coffee makes you resistant to cold damage and makes you move faster. I also believe drinks with caffeine like Kahlua and Loko 13 will let you resist stuff like sleep toxin and chloral. At least, that's what I can tell from my incredibly poor reading of the code. Apparently the toxins special and anti-freeze have cold-resistant properties, as does the vodka+pepper spray drink. Iced beer, apparently, cools you down. The silencer will heal you if you're a mime and you drink it, and the banana mama will heal the clown.

AnonymousNow · Post by **AnonymousNow** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:01 am #48556

Aren't some fizzy drinks meant to have a mild dexalin-like effect?

Preamble · Post by **Preamble** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:46 am #48569

OJ helps with airloss damage, and starkist is 50% OJ.

FrostFenex · Post by **FrostFenex** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:10 am #48583

How does one win the the game?

ExplosiveCrate · Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:41 am

kill all the antags

Septavius · Post by **Septavius** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:40 am #48606

kill all non antags

Zsword · Post by **Zsword** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:01 am #48607

Survive the round. Complete your personal objectives.

Post by **Vekter** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:01 am #48612

I recall Dr. Gibb acting like Dexalin but I'm not 100% sure.

They're all listed on the wiki, under Guide to Food and Drink.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:42 pm #48617

Cipher3 wrote:
Raven776 wrote:The gibbed bits will be poisonous!
That is... so convoluted yet plausible for murder...

I remember the good ole days of chefs parapenning people, gibbing them and serving parapen burgers.

Cipher3 · Post by **Cipher3** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:38 pm #48655

FrostFenex wrote:How does one win the the game?

The only way to win SS13 is to quit.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:51 pm #48657

The only winning move is not to play at all.
How about a nice game of Chess? Faggot

Silavite · Post by **Silavite** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:53 pm #48852

How effective are chilled nitrogen canisters at firefighting?

Spacezenegger · Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:58 pm

I was playing on Hippy Station and their MMIs can mind transfer into simple animals like Poly/Ian. Can you do that on tgstation?

AnonymousNow · Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:05 pm

Spacezenegger wrote:I was playing on Hippy Station and their MMIs can mind transfer into simple animals like Poly/Ian. Can you do that on tgstation?

Hoo damn, that's an interesting one. You mean with the mindswap spell? I've personally witnessed an MMI'd wizard brain using fireball repeatedly, so that bit makes sense.

As far as I'm aware, making player-controlled critters was made easier recently. Well, I say recently... probably about a year ago, now. If that's the case, then maybe mindswap can work on simple animals.

I'll have to experiment with this myself.

Earthykiller127 · Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:37 pm

Is it still possible to get a 100 brain damage bible by putting random shit as your religion?

Spacezenegger · Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:54 am

AnonymousNow wrote:
Spacezenegger wrote:I was playing on Hippy Station and their MMIs can mind transfer into simple animals like Poly/Ian. Can you do that on tgstation?
Hoo damn, that's an interesting one. You mean with the mindswap spell? I've personally witnessed an MMI'd wizard brain using fireball repeatedly, so that bit makes sense.

As far as I'm aware, making player-controlled critters was made easier recently. Well, I say recently... probably about a year ago, now. If that's the case, then maybe mindswap can work on simple animals.

I'll have to experiment with this myself.

I don't think it was a mindswap spelll. I think it was just a button the MMI was able to press. Hell, it could have been a prayer. I was just curious if we had it because that sounds like a neat feature for MMIs to have.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:22 am #49028

Spacezenegger wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:
Spacezenegger wrote:I was playing on Hippy Station and their MMIs can mind transfer into simple animals like Poly/Ian. Can you do that on tgstation?
Hoo damn, that's an interesting one. You mean with the mindswap spell? I've personally witnessed an MMI'd wizard brain using fireball repeatedly, so that bit makes sense.

As far as I'm aware, making player-controlled critters was made easier recently. Well, I say recently... probably about a year ago, now. If that's the case, then maybe mindswap can work on simple animals.

I'll have to experiment with this myself.
I don't think it was a mindswap spelll. I think it was just a button the MMI was able to press. Hell, it could have been a prayer. I was just curious if we had it because that sounds like a neat feature for MMIs to have.

that's not something we have, and it will never be something we have, i think. it really doesnt make sense.
however, you can ghost and become a drone if RD builds drones.

Pybro · Post by **Pybro** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:37 pm #49056

Earthykiller127 wrote:Is it still possible to get a 100 brain damage bible by putting random shit as your religion?

I dunno about the Bible, but I remember setting "adminism" to your religion giving YOU, the chaplain, 100 brai damage.

Erbbu · Post by **Erbbu** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:25 pm #49383

What's the most effective way of spreading diseases as an antag virologist?

Pybro · Post by **Pybro** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:44 pm #49386

Inject the infected blood into the chef's food/bartender's drinks. Or, infect a monkey man/monkey with it, then give that body to the chef. He'll gib it and make burgers, which may or may not contain the virus.

Tell the Clown you have a helpful virus for him, that it spreads on contact, and that you want him to spread it so everyone is super. Break a hole into your office from maint/emag the doors so you can safely blame it on the clown breaking in and fucking with stuff.

Get a spray bottle or any backpack water cannon. Fill it with blood from a syringe after emptying it. Run around spraying people with your diseased blood.

If you don't care about your own survival, get a grey shirt and infect yourself. Run around hugging everyone. Works especially well if you're a changeling as you can transform into an assistant, infect everyone as him, put your biosuit back on, transform back to normal, then use the cure-all power.

Blood-smoke grenades do not spread blood to tiles, but last I checked they do infect everyone who inhales (or possibly even just gets hit by) the cloud.

Infect a Security Officer. They tend to touch people a lot, be outside of maint, and don't have easy access to MedHUDS.

Get an Odysseus, and have it scan the infected blood. Run around stealing syringes and shooting blood into people, or just sleeper napping them. Pump them with sleepytox and infected blood.

Raven776 · Post by **Raven776** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:57 pm #49390

Silavite wrote:How effective are chilled nitrogen canisters at firefighting?

Rarely do you want to actually add more gas to a gas problem... Fires are best handled with a panic syphon and properly configured atmos loop or calling the shuttle, depending on how big the fire is.

Erbbu wrote:What's the most effective way of spreading diseases as an antag virologist?

There's something I recognize as a CMO. The best ways to spread the disease are as follows...

Never say anything over comms if there's a tag that will tell people who you are. That makes it more likely for someone to come check up on you while you've got liquid biological death still in the oven. If you get caught making GBS airborn, you're going to have a bad day and likely have all of your stuff but maybe a cold bottle spaced.

Make more than one disease with different cures. This means you're less likely to run into someone just handing out nutriment pills and the entire effort being wasted.

Make the diseases ANNOYING more than harmful. Dropping what you hold every few seconds, falling down, or getting random genetic illnesses will do a number to the crew.

Get yourself vaccines first. Keep a couple vaccine mixes in your box in case there's someone you want to save/ally with.

Most importantly: STEAL THE FUCKING PANDEMIC BOARDS. Get a screwdriver and a crowbar and take the one from virology. Steal the one from tech storage. Your CMO/Science staff especially competent? Bomb R&D.

If you can get the diseases to be stealth and there are no pandemic boards on station, congrats on the shuttle call from anyone smart enough to recognize the problem that won't go away.

Either never be the Virologist (break in as an assistant) or hide your identity with an agent ID or a genetics monkey identity. Everyone (EVERYONE) will be trying to lynch you, even if it's just a cold, for not being in virology fixing it.

If you REALLY wanna get fun, do all of this and then syndicate pipe bomb a monkey next to the virology station, drop your virologist ID next to it, and pretend you got gibbed.

Beyond that, make sure you've got a couple syringes tucked away somewhere to restart the plague if people do manage to find the cure and wipe it from the station. If the vaccines get out, then you're fucked until you can make a new disease variant. Good news? It's REALLY easy to do that.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:54 pm #49404

Pybro wrote:Tell the Clown you have a helpful virus for him, that it spreads on contact, and that you want him to spread it so everyone is super. Break a hole into your office from maint/emag the doors so you can safely blame it on the clown breaking in and fucking with stuff.

Fuck that. Get a 100 potency banana, and inject it with the virus. Tell the clown you have a 100-potency banana for him.

Earthykiller127 · Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:07 am

bandit wrote:
Pybro wrote:Tell the Clown you have a helpful virus for him, that it spreads on contact, and that you want him to spread it so everyone is super. Break a hole into your office from maint/emag the doors so you can safely blame it on the clown breaking in and fucking with stuff.
Fuck that. Get a 100 potency banana, and inject it with the virus. Tell the clown you have a 100-potency banana for him.

>assistant robust clown, take the banana with gloves equipped because XxX_PR0l99TiNGskllills_xXx anbbd space it

Spacezenegger · Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:31 am

What's an advanced mop and what does it do?

Zsword · Post by **Zsword** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:51 am #49447

Nothing, it needs buffed.

Okay, Honost answer: It holds about twice as much water as the normal Mop, and you spend signifigantly less time standing there 'cleaning.'

So, over the normal mop? Nothing. It'd be nice if it didn't need water and no slipped, like a super Soap.

Question about Asimov and Wizards: I've always thought that a big part of a Wizard was a wizard isn't human on account of being a 'Magic Mutant', but I've heard people say otherwise. Can I get a final verdict on this please? (Or what the servers personal rulebase is.)

ExplosiveCrate · Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:50 am

I don't think there was every a period when wizards weren't humans.

Post by **Vekter** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:51 am #49460

Yup, official word has always been that wizards are human. Unless they aren't.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:29 am #49462

Must suck to be a lizard wizard

Earthykiller127 · Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:00 pm

when i'm buckled in a bed, how do i cover myself with the bed sheet?

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:13 pm #49886

As station AI, how do I flood plasma throughout the station?

youngbuckliontiger · Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:57 pm

How do we earn antag coins?

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:13 pm #49902

youngbuckliontiger wrote:How do we earn antag coins?

That's not really a thing we do, except in really rare circumstances. Generally going along well with events tends to get you favorable treatment in future events.

youngbuckliontiger · Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:26 pm

Saegrimr wrote:
youngbuckliontiger wrote:How do we earn antag coins?
That's not really a thing we do, except in really rare circumstances. Generally going along well with events tends to get you favorable treatment in future events.

Mrglasses once turned me into an alien queen at round start for an alien event because i did him a favor of experimenting about the alien empress for him the previous game. Is that what you call an antag coin? because i've never seen one.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:28 pm #49907

youngbuckliontiger wrote:Mrglasses once turned me into an alien queen at round start for an alien event because i did him a favor of experimenting about the alien empress for him the previous game. Is that what you call an antag coin? because i've never seen one.

Close enough, yeah. It's not a physical thing or something special on your account. Its just something that gets added to your notes page.

Silavite · Post by **Silavite** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:25 am #49990

Why can't I wrap a crate and put it on a mulebot? It only seems to work unwrapped.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:37 am #50026

Zsword wrote:Nothing, it needs buffed.

Okay, Honost answer: It holds about twice as much water as the normal Mop, and you spend signifigantly less time standing there 'cleaning.'

So, over the normal mop? Nothing. It'd be nice if it didn't need water and no slipped, like a super Soap.

Question about Asimov and Wizards: I've always thought that a big part of a Wizard was a wizard isn't human on account of being a 'Magic Mutant', but I've heard people say otherwise. Can I get a final verdict on this please? (Or what the servers personal rulebase is.)

There are some other stations that have it in their backstory that wizards are a mutant race to their own and thus are not "human." Since /tg/ doesn't have that as part of its backstory, it doesn't function in the round. Wizards are human unless they're not.

Saltycut · Post by **Saltycut** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:11 pm #50114

What is the e-sword and double e-sword insta-knockdown and insta-crit chance?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:40 pm #50120

None existent

All weapons have a chance of KOing some from hits to the head, the chance is the weapon's force value used directly as a percentage
All weapons have a knock down chance from hits to the torso which is force + 10

Post by **Dax Dupont** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:35 am #50276

What's the best gasmix and temperature of the gas for the gasturbine on tgstation?

Silavite · Post by **Silavite** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:51 pm #50331

AdAstraPerAspera wrote:What's the best gasmix and temperature of the gas for the gasturbine on tgstation?

At low temperatures, a lean (high oxy/low plasma) mixture is best. The higher your temperature gets, the more you should rich (lower oxy/higher plasma) the mixture. In theory.
In practice, the time it takes to fiddle with pumps to precisely control your mixture really isn't worth it, and just starting the turbine at a 2:1 ratio of plasma/oxygen works fine. I don't know how much (if at all) you should enrich the mix from there.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1918
Relevant thread ^

Peble · Post by **Peble** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:13 am #50451

what is a grille and why are they under windows

Cayce · Post by **Cayce** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:05 am #50476

Grilles are latices of criss-crossing metal rods, they provide structural integrity to the window and an extra layer of protection if the window is broken - especially windows to space.

Peble · Post by **Peble** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:36 am #50524

Is there a real world equivalent?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:22 pm #50564

Homes in bad neighbourhoods

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:31 pm #50565

In the real world, reinforced windows also have metal grilles inside of them.

Zsword · Post by **Zsword** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:19 am #50866

At one point, I'm not sure if this is still the case, Grills were extremely resistant to meteor collisions, even moreso than solid walls, which lines up to the real life equivelant of metal wiring (or sometimes it is a proper rod or rebar lattice) inlaid in the windows to make them more impact resistant than pure glass, at the very least it makes it that much more difficult to punch a hole to jump through, even if it's ability to stop certain projectiles is debatable. (Which is also refelcted in game, where bullets and lasers can pass through a grill... again, last time I checked.)

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:20 pm #50940

Sacrifice Ian to the RNGs

Perakp · Post by **Perakp** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:40 pm #50959

Violaceus wrote:How do I make orange portals with hand teleporter and how do they work?

You don't make orange portals with the hand teleporter.

Pray for a wormhole projector or research it (combat 6, materials 6 and bluespace 4).

Silavite · Post by **Silavite** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:27 pm #50976

What is the most effective ingested poison?